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Gameday Thread: #20 Baylor vs Auburn

November 5, 2023
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#20 Baylor (0-0) tips off against Auburn (0-0) Tuesday November 7th at the Pentagon in Sioux Falls, South Dakota at 8pm CST.  The game is televised on ESPN.  

KenPom Prediction:  Baylor 72 Auburn 71

Torvik Prediction:  Baylor 74 Auburn 73

Evan Miyakawa Prediction:  Baylor 76 Auburn 75

Haslametrics:  Baylor 74 Auburn 72

Coaches

Auburn:   Bruce Pearl (63) 649-256 (187-111 at Auburn); 12 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; Elite 8; FF

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 442-244 overall (422-233 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  1-0 Drew

*Auburn Starters

Guard:  Tre Donaldson (SO) 6-2 190 lbs; 3 ppg; 1 asst; 38% FG; 41% 3pt; 55% FT

Guard:  Denver Jones (JR) 6-4 205 lbs; 20 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 48% FG; 37% 3pt; 85% FT (FIU)

Guard:  Chaney Johnson (JR) 6-7 215 lbs; 16 ppg; 7 reb; 2 asst; 52% FG; 30% 3pt; 77% FT (D2)

Forward:  Chris Moore (SR) 6-6 220 lbs; 4 ppg; 2 reb; 49% FG; 41% 3pt; 71% FT

Forward:  Johni Broome (JR) 6-10 240 lbs; 14 ppg; 8 reb; 53% FG; 29% 3pt; 56% FT

*using starting lineup from exhibition game but more likely that KD Johnson and Jaylin Williams are starters.  5 star PG Aden Holloway didn’t play in exhibitiion (ankle sprain).  Johni Broome left with a shoulder injury but is expected to play

Auburn Bench

Guard:  KD Johnson (SR) 6-0 190 lbs; 9 ppg; 38% FG; 33% 3pt; 69% FT

Forward:  Jaylin Williams (SR) 6-8 245 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 35% 3pt; 77% FT

Guard:  Chad Baker-Mazara (JR) 6-7 180 lbs; 6 ppg; 42% FG; 39% 3pt; 90% FT (SDSU)

Forward:  Dylan Cardwell (SR) 6-11 255 lbs; 4 ppg; 4 reb; 75% FG; 31% FT

Guard:  Aden Holloway (FR) 6-1 180 lbs; 5 star; #16 Recruit in 247 2023 class

Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 20 ppg; 4 reb; 6 asst; 48% FG; 37% 3pt; 77% FT (Toledo)

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 36% 3pt; 69% FT

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 5 star; #8 Recruit in 247 2023 class

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 51% FG; 32% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Jonthan Tchama Tchatuouia (SR) 6-8 235 lbs; 5 ppg; 5 reb; 48% FG; 43% 3pt; 85% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 asst; 2 st; 43% FG; 40% 3pt; 70% FT (VCU)e

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 3 ppg; 4 reb; 55% FG; 25% 3pt; 64% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 190 lbs; 4 star; #41 Recruit in 247 2023 Class

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 4 star; #42 Recruit in 247 2023 Class

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 4 ppg; 4 reb;  59% FG; 66% FT

Guard:  Dantwan Grimes (JR) 6-2 190 lbs; redshirted last season as juco transfer

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Gameday Thread: #20 Baylor vs Auburn

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11:30p, 11/7/23
Wow! Gonna be a fun season. What an opener!
Let’s Go!
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12:00a, 11/8/23
Thank you, MBB!!!

I almost forgot how wonderful winning against a relevant team feels like!
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
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In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 12:50a, 11/8/23
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
It's a really good sign how Baylor finished the game. The players actually started playing better in crunch time. That shows that there's a good mental makeup to this team. Winning teams have that kind of mentality and finish games strong. Obviously there's a lot they need to work on, but this is something really good to build on. Drew shined today, he coached up the team at halftime and they came out instantly better.

Excellent points. Also, there not seem to be any panic or desperation. We were behind for most of the game & every time we got close, they answered and stretched their lead back to 4-6. The Bears just kept on going. The last minutes were definitely the best of the game. I hope we see more of that kind of intensity, passion, & grit when we play Duke, Kansas & Texas.
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5:35a, 11/8/23
My alarm went off at 3:45 this morning. The sun was already shining
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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:56a, 11/8/23
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Langston looked great! He will cook as our 6th man, will provide microwave scoring. Love as 6th man is something I saw coming. Nunn is the vastly superior defender so will be able to lock down the other team's best perimeter player to start the game. Love will provide instant offense off the bench can stagger his minutes with Walter and Dennis.
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7:46a, 11/8/23
Very pleasantly surprised to wake up to a win. I caught the last part of the first half when we looked at our worst. I barely recognize any names on this team.
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In reply to TeamPlayer • 7:54a, 11/8/23
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Very pleasantly surprised to wake up to a win. I caught the last part of the first half when we looked at our worst. I barely recognize any names on this team.


I would like to introduce you to Mr. Walter and Mr. Missi.
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8:50a, 11/8/23
I enjoy when Fran is the analyst. He knows the rules very well and a lot of the back story of teams.
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In reply to CorsicanaBear • 8:55a, 11/8/23
CorsicanaBear said:
I just saw the halftime score on the web 43-34 Auburn. I haven't been watching. I have a new policy regarding Baylor sports. I'm only watching games I'm pretty sure they are going to win. This does not look like one.

I think this policy is going to save me a lot of time and frustration.
This didn't age well.
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In reply to ScottS • 9:01a, 11/8/23
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CorsicanaBear said:
I just saw the halftime score on the web 43-34 Auburn. I haven't been watching. I have a new policy regarding Baylor sports. I'm only watching games I'm pretty sure they are going to win. This does not look like one.

I think this policy is going to save me a lot of time and frustration.
This didn't age well.


Yeah, you shouldnt do this with Drew & Co.
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9:02a, 11/8/23
I'm so glad I watched the whole game, although I was shouting at the TV for much of the game. The last few minutes when we had that big run is some of the best basketball I've seen since the natty.
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9:02a, 11/8/23
Staff
That 16-5 run from us in the final 3:38 was crazy for a young team
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9:05a, 11/8/23
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
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9:08a, 11/8/23
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In reply to BearFan33 • 9:27a, 11/8/23
Other than K State v ISC Monday, last nights game was the only meaningful MBB game in the country until Friday.
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In reply to william • 9:40a, 11/8/23
william said:


We rollin!
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9:58a, 11/8/23
Better teamwork, better all court play. Being behind in a game really means nothing when you have shooters, defenders and rebounding. Love this new Baylor team. Congrats Drew and players!
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In reply to CorsicanaBear • 10:04a, 11/8/23
CorsicanaBear said:
I just saw the halftime score on the web 43-34 Auburn. I haven't been watching. I have a new policy regarding Baylor sports. I'm only watching games I'm pretty sure they are going to win. This does not look like one.

I think this policy is going to save me a lot of time and frustration.
without question a solid approach to this football season
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10:13a, 11/8/23
Walter scored his 28th point with nearly eight minutes left. Didn't score the rest of the game. That tells me our depth is so good, we don't have to rely on one guy to get us points.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 10:14a, 11/8/23
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I'm pumped that we started with a challenge too, but in the end, the top teams all have tough non-conference games. We are about to head into patsyville for a bit too.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 10:46a, 11/8/23
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I enjoy when Fran is the analyst. He knows the rules very well and a lot of the back story of teams.
Fran's the best. Anyone complaining about him is a casual.

No one comes into a game better prepared than he does, and he's just a fantastic ambassador for college basketball.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 10:49a, 11/8/23
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I would imagine this helps prepare our teams for the tournament, too. Meaningful games in historic venues at odd times are what March Madness is all about.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 10:51a, 11/8/23
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Walter scored his 28th point with nearly eight minutes left. Didn't score the rest of the game. That tells me our depth is so good, we don't have to rely on one guy to get us points.
It also tells you he's a team guy. We didn't need him to look for his own offense during our run. We had others delivering down the stretch.

It's nice to see such a talented young player let the game come to him.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 12:00p, 11/8/23
And the Big 12
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Baylor fans after last night's win over Auburn:



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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 12:26p, 11/8/23
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I'm pumped that we started with a challenge too, but in the end, the top teams all have tough non-conference games. We are about to head into patsyville for a bit too.

Yes, but it would be interesting to see the numbers to see if it's much better to start with a game that makes you realize there are no gimmes, then play patsies before you run into a big program again. Compared with opening with 8 straight patsies, run up the score because you're a half foot taller and both physically stronger and more athletically gifted at almost every position, and then get completely shellshocked when you run into a challenging game against guys your size, speed and talent level because you haven't experienced it to that point. I bet KenPom has that hidden away somewhere.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 12:28p, 11/8/23
This!

One thing I really liked is Walter was the first player to run over and congratulate when a teammate landed a basket. He does appear to be a team player from what I've seen.
Let’s Go!
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In reply to DanaDane • 1:19p, 11/8/23
DanaDane said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I'm pumped that we started with a challenge too, but in the end, the top teams all have tough non-conference games. We are about to head into patsyville for a bit too.

Yes, but it would be interesting to see the numbers to see if it's much better to start with a game that makes you realize there are no gimmes, then play patsies before you run into a big program again. Compared with opening with 8 straight patsies, run up the score because you're a half foot taller and both physically stronger and more athletically gifted at almost every position, and then get completely shellshocked when you run into a challenging game against guys your size, speed and talent level because you haven't experienced it to that point. I bet KenPom has that hidden away somewhere.
I agree, and even if we had lost, I would have been happy with the matchup if for nothing else than to get a gauge early on in a real environment. I'm pumped about our non-con games even if we get dinged a few times. All I care about is March and April. Growing up as a Baylor fan, I never thought I'd hear myself say that.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:46p, 11/8/23
bear2be2 said:
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I would imagine this helps prepare our teams for the tournament, too. Meaningful games in historic venues at odd times are what March Madness is all about.
Traveling to a location like SD gives the team an opportunity to bond which is huge given the number of freshmen/transfers.
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Oh? Is he a "Dude" Jeff?
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In reply to Jayman1963 • 1:54p, 11/8/23
Jayman1963 said:
bear2be2 said:
BearFan33 said:
I think Drew may be onto something by playing meaningful games in historic venues; even if they are at odd times. We are getting a lot of press for playing a challenging game when a lot of teams are playing early season patsies. I'd have to think that although the travel is difficult the players ultimately enjoy the experience.
I would imagine this helps prepare our teams for the tournament, too. Meaningful games in historic venues at odd times are what March Madness is all about.
Traveling to a location like SD gives the team an opportunity to bond which is huge given the number of freshmen/transfers.
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