MBB: #2 Baylor (25-2; 14-1) at TCU (15-13; 6-9) Preview & Game Thread

TCU scores 54 in the second
Crazy

Hope it hurts guys. You don't want that feeling again. Get fired up for Big Monday. Plenty of games left.

wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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Absolute truth!

DanaDane said:

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Yikes! Just got in from a golf tournament and looks like I picked a good game to miss. Oh well, these are gonna happen during a long season. I'd just rather it had been against someone, anyone, other than TCU. Must habe really been off in several areas of the game. I'll just delete from the DVR without watching and move on to the Tech game.

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The second half was the worst defensive half we've played in a very long time. Just awful from buzzer to buzzer. Very uncharacteristic of this team.

Saddle Up! said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Saddle Up! said:

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Absolutely unbelievable. I just don't understand how they can come this far, and then come out and play this complacently. No urgency, no killer instinct, no intensity. Now Vital is gone. Inexcusable!

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You're an idiot.

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Cogent, concise, and thoughtful argument

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Easy to figure. You're saying there is no excuse for us being 25-3. Every team has lost games they should have won, but when we do it, you call it inexcusable. It stinks that it's this late in the season. But you haven't watched any basketball if you think a loss like this is inexcusable. These are 20-year old kids. They're going to have down games.

Here's a secret: one of them may be in the NCAA tournament. Virginia lost to a 16-seed, and the next year, the same exact team won the whole thing. This **** happens.

But yeah, this is inexcusable.

You're an idiot.

wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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Sooooo Fire Drew?

wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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The 2018 national champion Villanova Wildcats lost to 16-17 St. John's that year.

Stop being a slave to the moment. These things happen.

They suck, but they happen.

Your job at Baylor is to beat TCU. Absolutely atrocious second half defense that is going to cost us a conference championship.

and this game means absolutely nothing. Kansas wins the Big 12, nothing new. It's all about the tourney

bear2be2 said:

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wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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The 2018 national champion Villanova Wildcats lost to 16-17 St. John's that year.

Stop being a slave to the moment. These things happen.

They suck, but they happen.

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Wuzzy thinks we should be the Anthony Davis Wildcats. He thinks 20-year old kids are machines who aren't supposed to have bad games.

wuzzybear said:

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gobears20 said:

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TCU scores 54 in the second
Crazy

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KSU put a spell on us by letting us make it look so easy. The lack of offensive production in he first half just killed a potential blowout. Butler missed everything he threw up from 3 nor did he even try one in the 2nd half until the game was out of hand. Bet we drop several spots tomorrow. We are still not KU!

Great teams ALWAYS find a way to win these type games. We are not great, but we are very good. TT and WVU will not be cakewalks. I just scratch my head over whatever kind of offense we are running. I have commented there is way way too much dribbling going on around the perimeter instead of swinging the ball side to side. It hit right square in the fanny today!!!

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Do you watch college basketball? Because this is complete bull*****

DST said:

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Your job at Baylor is to beat TCU. Absolutely atrocious second half defense that is going to cost us a conference championship.

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If I were you, I'd quit Baylor.

wuzzybear said:

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gobears20 said:

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TCU scores 54 in the second
Crazy

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KSU put a spell on us by letting us make it look so easy. The lack of offensive production in he first half just killed a potential blowout. Butler missed everything he threw up from 3 nor did he even try one in the 2nd half until the game was out of hand. Bet we drop several spots tomorrow. We are still not KU!

Great teams ALWAYS find a way to win these type games. We are not great, but we are very good. TT and WVU will not be cakewalks. I just scratch my head over whatever kind of offense we are running. I have commented there is way way too much dribbling going on around the perimeter instead of swinging the ball side to side. It hit right square in the fanny today!!!

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GTFOH. So you expected us to to win 23 straight and compete with Kansas to win the BIg 12... sometimes you guys are ****ing clowns

ImwithBU said:

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wuzzybear said:

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gobears20 said:

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TCU scores 54 in the second
Crazy

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KSU put a spell on us by letting us make it look so easy. The lack of offensive production in he first half just killed a potential blowout. Butler missed everything he threw up from 3 nor did he even try one in the 2nd half until the game was out of hand. Bet we drop several spots tomorrow. We are still not KU!

Great teams ALWAYS find a way to win these type games. We are not great, but we are very good. TT and WVU will not be cakewalks. I just scratch my head over whatever kind of offense we are running. I have commented there is way way too much dribbling going on around the perimeter instead of swinging the ball side to side. It hit right square in the fanny today!!!

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GTFOH. So you expected us to to win 23 straight and compete with Kansas to win the BIg 12... sometimes you guys are ****ing clowns

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Bring it on your MF. I'll stick my walking cane up your ***. If you want to discuss the game that is different but you keep the name calling to your damn self. I have no use for losers like you;

Don't even start this crap with me buddy boy. I'll have you for breakfast.

Give me your email address and let's go. Fury vs. Wilder...BU style.

We gave up over 50 in the second half and I believe TCU's offense is around 120 in offense in the nation

gobears20 said:

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We gave up over 50 in the second half and I believe TCU's offense is around 120 in offense in the nation

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Tell ImwithBU that. He'll just blow you off when all you are doing is giving the stat facts. Seems some on here do not bleed green and gold like they should. He should be PO'd at this effort. None of us criticized the effort vs. KU, but this was beyond surreal.

wuzzybear said:

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ImwithBU said:

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wuzzybear said:

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gobears20 said:

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TCU scores 54 in the second
Crazy

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KSU put a spell on us by letting us make it look so easy. The lack of offensive production in he first half just killed a potential blowout. Butler missed everything he threw up from 3 nor did he even try one in the 2nd half until the game was out of hand. Bet we drop several spots tomorrow. We are still not KU!

Great teams ALWAYS find a way to win these type games. We are not great, but we are very good. TT and WVU will not be cakewalks. I just scratch my head over whatever kind of offense we are running. I have commented there is way way too much dribbling going on around the perimeter instead of swinging the ball side to side. It hit right square in the fanny today!!!

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GTFOH. So you expected us to to win 23 straight and compete with Kansas to win the BIg 12... sometimes you guys are ****ing clowns

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Bring it on your MF. I'll stick my walking cane up your ***. If you want to discuss the game that is different but you keep the name calling to your damn self. I have no use for losers like you;

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Calm down grandpa before I shove that cane up your ass

wuzzybear said:

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gobears20 said:

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We gave up over 50 in the second half and I believe TCU's offense is around 120 in offense in the nation

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Tell ImwithBU that. He'll just blow you off when all you are doing is giving the stat facts. Seems some on here do not bleed green and gold like they should. He should be PO'd at this effort. None of us criticized the effort vs. KU, but this was beyond surreal.

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No you didn't give facts you gave your opinion like "we are a good team and not a great team". Great teams lay eggs at times. Better now than in the tourney

76% in the second half. Geez.

wuzzybear said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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Sooooo Fire Drew?

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Did I ever say a word about that? This is what you people do. When we see what you also saw and then we discuss the game via X's and O's then you pop up with the usual FIRE THE COACH commentary. Nobody is saying that, but you tell me. Were they ready to play 40 minutes today? Did you recognize the B team on the floor today. Drew always says he does not have to fire these guys up. Their veterans, but sometimes the coach has to step in. We were way too relaxed as evidenced by not following Bane off the ball screen. That is inexcusable and that is our defense just deciding not to hustle to the ball. I have not seen them play that way all year. No way this BU team when focused lets TCU score 54 in the 2nd half. That should have as many points as they scored the whole game.

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You've trashed Drew many times before. Figured you were waiting for this game to unleash more of it. These are kids. They have bad games no matter what coaches do. Coach K's team gave up 113 points this week, and they're still in the top 10.

The problem with you is you never give credit when we win, but you rant and rave when we lose.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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wuzzybear said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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Sooooo Fire Drew?

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Did I ever say a word about that? This is what you people do. When we see what you also saw and then we discuss the game via X's and O's then you pop up with the usual FIRE THE COACH commentary. Nobody is saying that, but you tell me. Were they ready to play 40 minutes today? Did you recognize the B team on the floor today. Drew always says he does not have to fire these guys up. Their veterans, but sometimes the coach has to step in. We were way too relaxed as evidenced by not following Bane off the ball screen. That is inexcusable and that is our defense just deciding not to hustle to the ball. I have not seen them play that way all year. No way this BU team when focused lets TCU score 54 in the 2nd half. That should have as many points as they scored the whole game.

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You've trashed Drew many times before. Figured you were waiting for this game to unleash more of it. These are kids. They have bad games no matter what coaches do. Coach K's team gave up 113 points this week, and they're still in the top 10.

The problem with you is you never give credit when we win, but you rant and rave when we lose.

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This says it all. People are mute all season and now come out after a loss

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Saddle Up! said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Saddle Up! said:

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Absolutely unbelievable. I just don't understand how they can come this far, and then come out and play this complacently. No urgency, no killer instinct, no intensity. Now Vital is gone. Inexcusable!

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You're an idiot.

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Cogent, concise, and thoughtful argument

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Easy to figure. You're saying there is no excuse for us being 25-3. Every team has lost games they should have won, but when we do it, you call it inexcusable. It stinks that it's this late in the season. But you haven't watched any basketball if you think a loss like this is inexcusable. These are 20-year old kids. They're going to have down games.

Here's a secret: one of them may be in the NCAA tournament. Virginia lost to a 16-seed, and the next year, the same exact team won the whole thing. This **** happens.

But yeah, this is inexcusable.

You're an idiot.

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I never said that there's no excuse for us being 25-3. Complete lie and mid characterization. You don't know me, and have no idea how much basketball I have watched. We allowed almost as many points in the 2nd half as we've averaged allowing for an entire game this season, to an inferior opponent. Every analyst on the broadcast and network has referenced our inconsistent play and lack of offense, even stating that it could get us bounced from the tournament, despite having the talent to win it all. They also have said that we can't always count on our great D to bail us out, and today, that D was non existent, seeing defenders lazily sag under screens when TCU was on fire from 3, or get beat by a step. But you go right ahead and blame me for my opinion and "hot take," declaring that I haven't watched basketball.

Over the years that I have been on this and BaylorFans boards, I have read way too many posts that I absolutely disagreed with, and in some cases thought were ridiculously off the mark, but I always try to at least consider every point of view, without calling someone an idiot. Especially when I have absolutely no clue about their intelligence, background, knowledge, or experiences. But you feel free to go right ahead, without having a clue who I am or my background. Don't let common sense hold you back.

bear2be2 said:

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Shakesbear said:

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Duke will jump us now

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Do you guys watch basketball? Duke has five losses and could well lose to Virginia tonight.

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Do you know nothing about Duke? They are one of the "chosen" bluebloods of basketball lore. We could easily drop to #5 with this loss. Never underestimate a Blue-blood Devil

ImwithBU said:

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and this game means absolutely nothing. Kansas wins the Big 12, nothing new. It's all about the tourney

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Then why is CKM so adamant about wanting to win out, despite the fact that they have it locked down, and could just put it on cruise control?

Saddle Up! said:

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ImwithBU said:

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and this game means absolutely nothing. Kansas wins the Big 12, nothing new. It's all about the tourney

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Then why is CKM so adamant about wanting to win out, despite the fact that they have it locked down, and could just put it on cruise control?

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For the women to lose a single conference game, they have to play like absolute dog ***** Upsets happen all the time in the men's game. Until parity hits women's college basketball in any meaningful way, people need to retire these stupid comparisons.

Did we play zone at all in the second half?

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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wuzzybear said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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wuzzybear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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ColoradoGRN&GLD said:

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Let's take it easy with the hot takes. This game was obviously a disappointment, but this is still one of the best teams in the country with a legitimate shot at a national title. We might look back on this game in April and be thankful for the reset to the team's psyche.

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Absolutely this.

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No way. When you are having the best season in history THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. Pathetic offense today. TCU wanted more. They played 40 minutes. We played about 10.

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Sooooo Fire Drew?

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Did I ever say a word about that? This is what you people do. When we see what you also saw and then we discuss the game via X's and O's then you pop up with the usual FIRE THE COACH commentary. Nobody is saying that, but you tell me. Were they ready to play 40 minutes today? Did you recognize the B team on the floor today. Drew always says he does not have to fire these guys up. Their veterans, but sometimes the coach has to step in. We were way too relaxed as evidenced by not following Bane off the ball screen. That is inexcusable and that is our defense just deciding not to hustle to the ball. I have not seen them play that way all year. No way this BU team when focused lets TCU score 54 in the 2nd half. That should have as many points as they scored the whole game.

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You've trashed Drew many times before. Figured you were waiting for this game to unleash more of it. These are kids. They have bad games no matter what coaches do. Coach K's team gave up 113 points this week, and they're still in the top 10.

The problem with you is you never give credit when we win, but you rant and rave when we lose.

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Hell yes I do. What you don't understand is I am talking about the effort. Missing shots is one thing, but then not even being in position to defend is another. I hold this team to a higher standard and you forget the team on the other side is also a bunch of so-called kids. And we have the veteran team. Sure, I think they can just toss this one away, but do you really want to be going into March having lost 2 of the last 3? Back in January I'm not worried about it but not now.

Don't accuse me of stuff you cannot defend. What does Coach K have to do with BU? The game has long past him by and he is just a life coach with a lot of talent on the floor. I'm not ranting and raving but I will unless I see the effort that was out there today. But to you it is just "oh well we just weren't very good today. TCU was just the better team with a 7-9 conf record. Oh well all thing will just turn up unicorns and daisies." Get out of this site before I put you out.

So frustrating to watch, especially down the stretch. Currently drowning my sorrows in a big glass of Dr. Pepper. My name should be CompletelySober for the past month and a half as I've been on a diet to start 2020. Times like these are when I need a bourbon.

You should keep your trap shut with the FIRE DREW NOW? comments. Nobody I know here ever says that. Maybe 10 yrs ago but I haven't seen people talking about firing anybody. That's just stupid like you. But we are free last time I checked the first amendment to criticize certain ELEMENTS of the game and the team. But people like you I've seen for 40 years...you little cupcake. Grow a pair and STOP with the criticism of the critics. I'm not trashing the team but I am trashing the effort in the 2nd half. If you got a problem with that too bad.

I don't even know who I am talking to here, but anybody who accepts this effort today needs to understand that some of us have been in the wilderness for 40 yrs with Baylor athletics and so when you are pushing your primary opponent to take over the reins then this effort will not do us any favors. I get it that we are going to lose but am never going to understand lack of effort from a team that was no.1 for 5-6 weeks.

Is not this the time of the year you need to be peaking? Yes.
Does this mean it is life over? No.
Can we win the big12 tourney? Yes, but not with this effort.
Maybe you should make a little extra EFFORT to understand this you lying dog-faced pony-soldier.