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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-3) travels to Iowa State (4-2)

November 6, 2020
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Baylor is back on the road again to face off against the Iowa State Cyclones on Saturday at 6:00 p.m. CT in a game that will be aired on FS1. 


Baylor vs. Iowa State Primer

For three consecutive games Baylor has used second-half rallies to make games against West Virginia, Texas and TCU interesting, but ultimately fell short in each to drop to 1-3 on the season. 

Now the Bears will hit the road with hopes of pulling of an upset against No. 17 Iowa State as 14-point underdogs to the Cyclones. BU has lost two of their last three to the Cyclones dating back to the 2017 season, but did get the victory over Matt Campbell and Brock Purdy in Waco a season ago, 23-21. 

Iowa State is led offensively by quarterback Brock Purdy and running back Breece Hall. Through six games Purdy is completing 62.2% of his passes for 1,313 yards with seven touchdowns against three interceptions and has rushed for an additional three touchdowns and 139 yards. 

Hall, however, has taken the spotlight over the course of the early part of his career in Ames. Just a sophomore, Hall has rushed for 1,798 yards and 20 touchdowns on 320 carries and caught 36 passes for 313 yards and another score. The explosive all-around back has registered at least 100 yards in all six games in 2020 and totaled 901 rushing yards and 11 scores already. 

The Cyclone defense has been steady as well, ranking among the top four in the Big 12 in many categories. Their 26.0 points allowed ranks fourth in the league while possessing the No. 2 rush defense in the league in yards per carry at 3.14. They have forced seven turnovers on the season, registering 7.83 tackles for loss per game and rank No. 3 in the Big 12 with 3.0 sacks per game.  

Actions must speak louder than words for Baylor

At times in the first three-quarters of last Saturday’s game against TCU, it felt as though Baylor had hit their rock bottom for the 2020 season. However, what could have been an all-time embarrassing result instead turned into just another brutal loss, following the fourth quarter showing that exemplified what this program is still capable of with the right mix of coaching, playmaking and attitude. 

As Colt Barber wrote earlier this week, there has been plenty of accountability to go around the football locker room and that continued on Wednesday as a new group of players spoke to the media.

For Baylor to turn the future summary of their 2020 season around, however, they’ll need their actions to speak as loud as their words. Poor starts and a lack of energy, in particular, have been discussed by outsiders ad nauseam, but they’re also the same topics of conversation currently occurring within the program.

Talking to SicEm365’s David Smoak on Monday, Aranda directly addressed those areas of concern.

“Starting the game faster is definitely something that was talked about,” Aranda said. “I think I look upon myself, like, that's something I have to do better, in terms of creating energy in the locker room, and really managing time on the grass, prior to the game.

“I feel like I can do a better job there.”

During Baylor’s 2017 1-11 campaign in Matt Rhule’s first year, former offensive lineman and current defensive lineman Ryan Miller was an undersized true freshman forced into action out of necessity. He’s seen firsthand the highs and lows of the program over the last three-plus seasons.

“To compare this team this year and the struggles we’re having versus my freshman year, it’s like not even a comparison. We’ve got the guys, there’s no doubt about it. We’ve got the talent, we just have to go do it,” Miller told media on Wednesday. 

Ultimately what helped flip the switch for the program between the one-win season in 2017 to the Big 12 Championship contender in 2019 was not only more time, but also an unwavering belief in the process and a higher level of execution and accountability amongst the actual players. 

Similarly, each piece of success regardless of how big or how small in 2020 is something to build on, Miller said.

“Looking at TCU, from that game specifically the second half, the biggest takeaway for our offense, in my opinion, was them saying, ‘we’re capable of stacking drives together and scoring touchdowns,’”  the former Southlake Carroll standout said.

“And I think up to that point, there might have been this low of, I guess you could call it confidence or whatever it is, but I think it became obvious … we’re good, we can move, we can run the ball, we can throw the ball. We can do all these things, we just gotta go do it.” 

The early season performances were amplified by the poor first half on Saturday which makes it understandable that fans and supporters to have concerns about the mindset of the team. The same mistakes are costing them games each week. Losses aren’t easy on anyone and this isn’t a group of student-athletes and staff that have been in the fire together for very long. But they are players and coaches who have been in the fire before, whether together or separately, and they all know what it takes to achieve success. 

Safety Jairon McVea, asked about the mood of the team, reverted to some wisdom from his father.

“My dad always tells me the hardest thing about changing or getting to the top of something is the very end, the last hump, and that’s where I feel like the team’s at right now,” the former walk-on said.

“Where that’s the hardest part to get over, that last step on the hill, the last step on the staircase, and so, we're motivated.”

The words are right, but it will need to be followed by actions if Baylor wants to turn the season around.

For Baylor to have a chance in Ames this weekend, it will require their best team performance of the season and perhaps a little bit of luck. For that to happen, it won’t come down to Dave Aranda, Larry Fedora or Ron Roberts calling a perfect game. It will come down to those on the field executing and making it happen. 

“Losing a football game is never one person’s fault,” Miller said. “It’s either everyone or no one, right? So, I agree that we’ve also got to go play.

“You can only do so much as a coach, but the reality is [Aranda]'s not the one wearing a helmet, and has shoulder pads, and has to go tackle and block people. We've got to go do those things and execute and do the things we've been coached to do at a high level.” 

With five games remaining, Baylor’s season is far from over and there are plenty of opportunities for fun times ahead, including this weekend. But to experience those, for both players and coaches, their actions will need to speak louder than their words. 


Baylor vs. Iowa State Prediction

Written by Sam Bradshaw (S11)

Prediction

Baylor is a team with the talent and schemes to win this.   However the performance for the first half of last week’s game gives me pause.   That is not the defense we saw through the first three games in terms of physicality or execution.   That is also not what we expected from the offense given how much more practice they finally had together.

This game is a question of whether Baylor can get it’s act together and put whatever distractions they face aside and go play a clean game.   I think we’ll see a better effort but not enough to win against a better opponent.

Iowa State 27, Baylor 16

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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-3) travels to Iowa State (4-2)

59,759 Views | 569 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by boognish_bear
USNA82
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We are rough to watch this year:
- The right tackle still gives up too much ground, and is not athletic enough to play the position.
- When #87 is in the game he looks like he's lost on every play. He can't catch, and he can't block. Keep him on the sidelines.
- we have not stretched the field on our playcalls in the second half, The defense was able to crowd the line of scrimmage for our dink and dunk philosophy.
- #4 played the worst game I've seen him play at Baylor, and he was the best of the safeties tonight
- there is no enthusiasm and emotion on our sidelines. You got to inspire these young men to go out when they've given up 21 unanswered points to perform. That may be a quarterback change. They look like they're just going through the motions. Aranda needs to turn those GA lose to excite the sidelines.
- #2 is a warrior, we missed him. Hope he's all right. Williams was impressive, hope he's all right as well.
- we need a couple more #90s, Our DTs are just not big enough.....And not mean enough.
- Big 12 refs are the worst of the P5 conferences. I've got family members that ref in the ACC and the AAC, they call a much cleaner game. Those refs in the Texas - West Virginia game today should be punished. Terrible!
- #0 is going to play at the next level. He's exciting to watch.

BearFan33
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Ouch
Realitybites
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Ball game.
DanaDane
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Lanes WIDE OPEN to take off running and instead he throws into triple coverage. Ugh.
KIA
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Brewer
kiangkong
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The offensive line has done a pretty decent job protecting Brewer today compared with past games. His limitations continue to be magnified
jdrs
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Welp
Dia del DougO
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Three more quarters of Ebner might have helped.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
Jorkel
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Charlie...serviceable like I said 2 years ago.
Thedeiyaanking
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I'm tired of this ***** ass ***** **** brewer bruh get him off the team I'm so done with this *****
PartyBear
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THAt was like the game losing pick against WVU.
IowaBear
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For the sake of defending the snowflakes I'll say this and only this. That throw was WEAK. Zeno throws a dart for TD there that's all but Charlie will continue being the starter for another 16 games
DanaDane
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Gee, it would have been nice if we had one more series to potentially score..................like at the end of the first half.
tpj1991
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Fleeks was wide open in the corner
IowaBear
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Also FLEEKS was wide open!! Wide open
PartyBear
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He had a wide open guy in the end zone as well.
Team America
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Corner route was WIDE OPEN
Johnny Bear
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Whoever 21 is he was wide open for 6.
GruntTuff
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Ridiculous throw. Such an easy interception.

Love Charlie but please give someone else a chance.

This season is lost.

PLEASE play for the future.
whitetrash
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Oh sure, now they call a penalty on IowaSt.
BUbackerinET
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Triple coverage on first down - he had 3 more downs to play with, on top of that, the corner fell down, and the outside guy (#2) was running free-glad to see us playing some freshman - time to see Bohanon and even more so, Zeno - we're going to lose them both to the portal if we don't start working toward the future
Darth Melon
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What a horrible read by Charlie. I literally can't fathom how he justified throwing that ball. Wow.
Branch155
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Fleeks was wide freaking open. Tom Brady couldn't have completed the pass to Sneed
Dia del DougO
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Baylor gonna Baylor.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
Drisk
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Awful mistake right there to seal it. Not sure how Brewer doesn't see the underneath coverage on that one.
CaliByWayOfKS
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Top corner and 1 of the 2 on the wide right side were open...
You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.
DanaDane
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Tune in next week for the Texas Pillow Fight to see who gets 8th place and who takes 9th in the Big 12 this year.
Branch155
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Drisk said:

Awful mistake right there to seal it. Not sure how Brewer doesn't see the underneath coverage on that one.
Cloaking device engaged?
Hob Howelll
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Bear8084 said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

This is just really really bad. Fedora was a flat out bad higher. Not sure on Arunda. Kinda looks like deer in the headlights. Charlie is just bad


I loved Aranda's resume as a coordinator, but having done some research on him I always questioned his fire and demeanor. Those may be clich terms, but in a primal game like football you need a coach that can instill those values in a team and kick some butt when it's needed. I don't see Aranda as that guy. Also concerning were the comments made by some of the players who thought that he was "weird" when they first met him.


What comments or are we just making up stories now?


Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend type thing. But multiple players said it.


Right....


Cool whatever. If you want inside info you should pony up money for the premium board, but if you are expecting a signed affidavit for every piece of info you hear on a message board then you're never going to be satisfied


Right...


Lick my butthole


Can't take someone calling your BS? Go to another then.


Umm...You're the one getting your panties in a bunch. I'm sorry that you are the type that chooses to believe any positive thing you read on this message board sight unseen but demand some sort of impossible "proof" for anything remotely negative. You are the type of obnoxious person that drove almost everyone with inside information to the premium board, and for that I'm sure the owners of the site love you
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GruntTuff
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The next 12 months will tell the story of Aranda. Smart and nice guy. Great coordinator.

But, can he lead? Can he make difficult decisions. Can he hold recruits?

Time will tell.
DanaDane
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IowaBear said:

It's gonna take 38 to win. I'd suggest maybe we quit running every single first and second down for 1 yard. ISU is crashing hard! Throw a screen

Prophetic!
Hob Howelll
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Anyways I'm sure the powers that be will see this game as some sort of massive turning point. I don't see it but I hope it is indeed the case
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Green&GoldStandard
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Let's keep Charlie in the pocket. He is so effective their.

If we are going to use him (and Aranda says he is our guy) let's play to his strengths.
KIA
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Stupid BOR. Football got to big for them, they screwed us, and we haven't beaten a ranked team since ...
Johnny Bear
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DanaDane said:

Tune in next week for the Texas Pillow Fight to see who gets 8th place and who takes 9th in the Big 12 this year.

Playing in Lubbock will in and of itself be enough to pick up "L" number 5.
 
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