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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-3) travels to Iowa State (4-2)

November 6, 2020
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Baylor is back on the road again to face off against the Iowa State Cyclones on Saturday at 6:00 p.m. CT in a game that will be aired on FS1. 


Baylor vs. Iowa State Primer

For three consecutive games Baylor has used second-half rallies to make games against West Virginia, Texas and TCU interesting, but ultimately fell short in each to drop to 1-3 on the season. 

Now the Bears will hit the road with hopes of pulling of an upset against No. 17 Iowa State as 14-point underdogs to the Cyclones. BU has lost two of their last three to the Cyclones dating back to the 2017 season, but did get the victory over Matt Campbell and Brock Purdy in Waco a season ago, 23-21. 

Iowa State is led offensively by quarterback Brock Purdy and running back Breece Hall. Through six games Purdy is completing 62.2% of his passes for 1,313 yards with seven touchdowns against three interceptions and has rushed for an additional three touchdowns and 139 yards. 

Hall, however, has taken the spotlight over the course of the early part of his career in Ames. Just a sophomore, Hall has rushed for 1,798 yards and 20 touchdowns on 320 carries and caught 36 passes for 313 yards and another score. The explosive all-around back has registered at least 100 yards in all six games in 2020 and totaled 901 rushing yards and 11 scores already. 

The Cyclone defense has been steady as well, ranking among the top four in the Big 12 in many categories. Their 26.0 points allowed ranks fourth in the league while possessing the No. 2 rush defense in the league in yards per carry at 3.14. They have forced seven turnovers on the season, registering 7.83 tackles for loss per game and rank No. 3 in the Big 12 with 3.0 sacks per game.  

Actions must speak louder than words for Baylor

At times in the first three-quarters of last Saturday’s game against TCU, it felt as though Baylor had hit their rock bottom for the 2020 season. However, what could have been an all-time embarrassing result instead turned into just another brutal loss, following the fourth quarter showing that exemplified what this program is still capable of with the right mix of coaching, playmaking and attitude. 

As Colt Barber wrote earlier this week, there has been plenty of accountability to go around the football locker room and that continued on Wednesday as a new group of players spoke to the media.

For Baylor to turn the future summary of their 2020 season around, however, they’ll need their actions to speak as loud as their words. Poor starts and a lack of energy, in particular, have been discussed by outsiders ad nauseam, but they’re also the same topics of conversation currently occurring within the program.

Talking to SicEm365’s David Smoak on Monday, Aranda directly addressed those areas of concern.

“Starting the game faster is definitely something that was talked about,” Aranda said. “I think I look upon myself, like, that's something I have to do better, in terms of creating energy in the locker room, and really managing time on the grass, prior to the game.

“I feel like I can do a better job there.”

During Baylor’s 2017 1-11 campaign in Matt Rhule’s first year, former offensive lineman and current defensive lineman Ryan Miller was an undersized true freshman forced into action out of necessity. He’s seen firsthand the highs and lows of the program over the last three-plus seasons.

“To compare this team this year and the struggles we’re having versus my freshman year, it’s like not even a comparison. We’ve got the guys, there’s no doubt about it. We’ve got the talent, we just have to go do it,” Miller told media on Wednesday. 

Ultimately what helped flip the switch for the program between the one-win season in 2017 to the Big 12 Championship contender in 2019 was not only more time, but also an unwavering belief in the process and a higher level of execution and accountability amongst the actual players. 

Similarly, each piece of success regardless of how big or how small in 2020 is something to build on, Miller said.

“Looking at TCU, from that game specifically the second half, the biggest takeaway for our offense, in my opinion, was them saying, ‘we’re capable of stacking drives together and scoring touchdowns,’”  the former Southlake Carroll standout said.

“And I think up to that point, there might have been this low of, I guess you could call it confidence or whatever it is, but I think it became obvious … we’re good, we can move, we can run the ball, we can throw the ball. We can do all these things, we just gotta go do it.” 

The early season performances were amplified by the poor first half on Saturday which makes it understandable that fans and supporters to have concerns about the mindset of the team. The same mistakes are costing them games each week. Losses aren’t easy on anyone and this isn’t a group of student-athletes and staff that have been in the fire together for very long. But they are players and coaches who have been in the fire before, whether together or separately, and they all know what it takes to achieve success. 

Safety Jairon McVea, asked about the mood of the team, reverted to some wisdom from his father.

“My dad always tells me the hardest thing about changing or getting to the top of something is the very end, the last hump, and that’s where I feel like the team’s at right now,” the former walk-on said.

“Where that’s the hardest part to get over, that last step on the hill, the last step on the staircase, and so, we're motivated.”

The words are right, but it will need to be followed by actions if Baylor wants to turn the season around.

For Baylor to have a chance in Ames this weekend, it will require their best team performance of the season and perhaps a little bit of luck. For that to happen, it won’t come down to Dave Aranda, Larry Fedora or Ron Roberts calling a perfect game. It will come down to those on the field executing and making it happen. 

“Losing a football game is never one person’s fault,” Miller said. “It’s either everyone or no one, right? So, I agree that we’ve also got to go play.

“You can only do so much as a coach, but the reality is [Aranda]'s not the one wearing a helmet, and has shoulder pads, and has to go tackle and block people. We've got to go do those things and execute and do the things we've been coached to do at a high level.” 

With five games remaining, Baylor’s season is far from over and there are plenty of opportunities for fun times ahead, including this weekend. But to experience those, for both players and coaches, their actions will need to speak louder than their words. 


Baylor vs. Iowa State Prediction

Written by Sam Bradshaw (S11)

Prediction

Baylor is a team with the talent and schemes to win this.   However the performance for the first half of last week’s game gives me pause.   That is not the defense we saw through the first three games in terms of physicality or execution.   That is also not what we expected from the offense given how much more practice they finally had together.

This game is a question of whether Baylor can get it’s act together and put whatever distractions they face aside and go play a clean game.   I think we’ll see a better effort but not enough to win against a better opponent.

Iowa State 27, Baylor 16

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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-3) travels to Iowa State (4-2)

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DanaDane said:

IowaBear said:

It's gonna take 38 to win. I'd suggest maybe we quit running every single first and second down for 1 yard. ISU is crashing hard! Throw a screen

Prophetic!

IowaBear is the Abed of our Community.
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The Hound said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

This is just really really bad. Fedora was a flat out bad higher. Not sure on Arunda. Kinda looks like deer in the headlights. Charlie is just bad


I loved Aranda's resume as a coordinator, but having done some research on him I always questioned his fire and demeanor. Those may be clich terms, but in a primal game like football you need a coach that can instill those values in a team and kick some butt when it's needed. I don't see Aranda as that guy. Also concerning were the comments made by some of the players who thought that he was "weird" when they first met him.


What comments or are we just making up stories now?


Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend type thing. But multiple players said it.


Right....


Cool whatever. If you want inside info you should pony up money for the premium board, but if you are expecting a signed affidavit for every piece of info you hear on a message board then you're never going to be satisfied


Right...


Lick my butthole


Can't take someone calling your BS? Go to another then.


Umm...You're the one getting your panties in a bunch. I'm sorry that you are the type that chooses to believe any positive thing you read on this message board sight unseen but demand some sort of impossible "proof" for anything remotely negative. You are the type of obnoxious person that drove almost everyone with inside information to the premium board, and for that I'm sure the owners of the site love you


Sounds like you got nothing. Sorry.
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Well said! Scapegoated our program and what may have been 2-3 more conference titles and several runs at a Natty.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
Bear75605
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Is Brewer the best or the only quarterback we have? He has a typical Highland Park/Lake Travis quarterback. High football IQ for high school, but that is their ceiling.
Hob Howelll
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My "nothing" is apparently more than you've got. All you have to offer is rudeness and self righteousness when someone responds to your silliness with silliness
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KIA
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GruntTuff said:

The next 12 months will tell the story of Aranda. Smart and nice guy. Great coordinator.

But, can he lead? Can he make difficult decisions. Can he hold recruits?

Time will tell.

I completely agree. We didn't practice as a team with a new coach until August (no spring or summer team workouts).

The OL didn't play as a unit until our opponents had 5-6 games under their belts because of Covid.

There are a lot of excuses, but we certainly can't say is a good leader at this point. There was more reason to think Rhule was not a leader 5 games into year 1.

I think we CAN say that Charlie isn't the same leader as he has been in the past. Is it a reflection of his coach? Who knows? But he isn't playing like a 4 year starter.
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Bear75605 said:

Is Brewer the best or the only quarterback we have? He has a typical Highland Park/Lake Travis quarterback. High football IQ for high school, but that is their ceiling.


You got it my guy! Charlie is an elite QB ...nobody on the roster can touch him.
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The Hound said:

My "nothing" is apparently more than you've got. All you have to offer is rudeness and self righteousness when someone responds to your silliness with silliness



A friend of a friend of a friend is nothing and smells like BS. Which most likely it is.
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The good news is we're not an institution of football.
SIC EM 94
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Bear75605 said:

Is Brewer the best or the only quarterback we have? He has a typical Highland Park/Lake Travis quarterback. High football IQ for high school, but that is their ceiling.

Matt Stafford says hi jacka$$
boognish_bear
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Is Charlie coming back next year?
Hob Howelll
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That is how insider information is shared on message boards.
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Bear75605
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SIC EM 94 said:

Bear75605 said:

Is Brewer the best or the only quarterback we have? He has a typical Highland Park/Lake Travis quarterback. High football IQ for high school, but that is their ceiling.

Matt Stafford says hi jacka$$

You got anybody else to say hello????
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boognish_bear said:

Is Charlie coming back next year?

Sounds like it
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The Hound said:

Bear8084 said:

The Hound said:

My "nothing" is apparently more than you've got. All you have to offer is rudeness and self righteousness when someone responds to your silliness with silliness


But I'm trying to tell you that is literally how "insider"information is shared on a message board.



A friend of a friend of a friend is nothing and smells like BS. Which most likely it is.



Doesn't seem like it. There are way better sources than a friend of a friend. The fact you are moaning about it here tells me all I need to know. And your reaction tells me even more.
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Bear75605 said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Bear75605 said:

Is Brewer the best or the only quarterback we have? He has a typical Highland Park/Lake Travis quarterback. High football IQ for high school, but that is their ceiling.

Matt Stafford says hi jacka$$

You got anybody else to say hello????


Baker mayf..... well he at least one a Hiesman ....pros the book is still being written
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Honestly, I'm happy with the game. Actually came out strong for a change, and apart from 28 infuriating answered points, we fought back and almost brought it to OT again. Was expecting a blowout, so I'm good with this. Seeing progress and hope it continues through the season.
Hob Howelll
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You gotta love it when some random person responds to you with rudeness, you defend yourself in like manner and then they get their feelers hurt and act like you're "moaning".

By the way, my inside sources are also telling me you have a very small wiener
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Staff
It's obvious Brewer does not look comfortable out there. Is it the offensive scheme or what all happen last year?
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The Hound said:

You gotta love it when some random person responds to you with rudeness, you defend yourself in like manner and then they get their feelers hurt and act like you're "moaning".


Rudeness.... "Lick my butthole". Right....go home. You're drunk.
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No. We just flipped the switch. Now we are gonna be trash in the second half. Brewer is GARBAGE. We won't win another game with a GARBAGE qb at the helm.
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gobears20 said:

It's obvious Brewer does not look comfortable out there. Is it the offensive scheme or what all happen last year?

Well for one he missed 2 easy TDs if he had a better arm. He also doesn't run near like he used too which is understandable. But he's always struggled to read a defense and he stares down his wideouts. That last play was vintage Brewer. Locked in on Sneed from the snap while Fleeks was running WIDE OPEN for a TD. Rose knew Brewer was throwing to Sneed and played him like a fiddle. Also Fleeks reaction after that pick was pretty telling
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The Hound said:

You gotta love it when some random person responds to you with rudeness, you defend yourself in like manner and then they get their feelers hurt and act like you're "moaning".

By the way, my inside sources are also telling me you have a very small wiener


More rudeness...might want to work on growing up first before calling someone else out on imaginary rudeness.
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gobears20 said:

It's obvious Brewer does not look comfortable out there. Is it the offensive scheme or what all happen last year?


I think Brewer is a game manager and as such, he needs to not be put into so many second and third and long situations. What that means is that we have to have a more consistent running game that can get those 4-5 yard plays on first down. We just don't have that run game this year. There's also the other factors that have been mentioned like lack of arm strength and the inability to run or specific strategy of keeping him in the pocket, as well as the lack of spring ball and consistent practices this year which is probably the biggest factor
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Bear8084
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The Hound said:

gobears20 said:

It's obvious Brewer does not look comfortable out there. Is it the offensive scheme or what all happen last year?


I think Brewer is a game manager and as such, he needs to not be put into so many second and third and long situations. What that means is that we have to have a more consistent running game that can get those 4-5 yard plays on first down. We just don't have that run game this year. There's also the other factors that have been mentioned like lack of arm strength and the inability to run or specific strategy of keeping him in the pocket, as well as the lack of spring ball and consistent practices this year which is probably the biggest factor


Lack of spring ball with a new staff has loomed big. That we agree on.
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Saddle Up!
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On that last INT, the entire issue was CB's bad recurring habit of staring down the guy he's predetermined that he's gonna throw to. It allowed 23 to forget his guy in coverage, and drop underneath in the passing lane for the pick. If he's not there, it was a perfect ball for a TD to Sneed, but CB doesn't look anyone off. Also, by staring down his predetermined target, he completely missed at least two or three open receivers, due to tunnel vision.
Jorkel
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boognish_bear said:




He thought he was going to get a ball he could 50/50 with the defender...however homeboy through it about face high to the wrong team.
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Baylor played mostly well for 3 quarters, but not so well in the 3rd. If we can play as solid in 4 quarters as we played in the first 2 and much of the 4th, we can win more games.

I'm much more optimistic about the rest of the season than I was yesterday--especially the next 2 games.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Jorkel
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boognish_bear said:




Well that was the coaches mistake. Don't they know Charlie makes the decisions out there.
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boognish_bear said:



Fleeks was visibly pissed and understandably so
Hob Howelll
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It's the type of mistake that comes from lack of practice and a new system. Unless Charlie completely ignored the call. Not sure how to read that
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Jorkel
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Imagine..brewer spoiled with Hurd and then Mims ...home boy likes to throw it to one receiver...makes it easier for his brain. See number 0...throw to number 0.
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IowaBear said:

boognish_bear said:



Fleeks was visibly pissed and understandably so


Did he get even one target all night?
 
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