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Assassin
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gotta say - theres a lot of blame to shoulder here including coaches. I have no idea why they didnt put a TE on left side. You have a pretty strong RG and RT. Why not keep the TE there? Or an H back right behind the LT? Or FB there?

LT was pretty much bare the whole game
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What to you suppose Garrett is listening to on his headphones, anybody?
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BaylorProud77 said:

Talking to myself now, so bad


Just turn it off dude...no reason to ruin the rest of your day...at least you showed up, unlike the team.
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BaylorProud77 said:

What to you suppose Garrett is listening to on his headphones, anybody?


Head Coaching for Dummies
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BearForce said:

BaylorProud77 said:

Talking to myself now, so bad


Just turn it off dude...no reason to ruin the rest of your day...at least you showed up, unlike the team.
Thank goodness it is over
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BearForce said:

BaylorProud77 said:

What to you suppose Garrett is listening to on his headphones, anybody?


Head Coaching for Dummies
lololol
BaylorProud77
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Cowboys have got a lot to work out.
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ok , goodnight
BearForce
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The protection on offense is scheme fixable

The running game is fixable

No Sean Lee apparently is catastrophic and Jaylon Smith is a liability. We have to figure out the LB thing because Lee will be out again at some point...bet on it.
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BaylorProud77 said:

Talking to myself now, so bad


Happens to the best of us
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BearForce said:

BaylorProud77 said:

Talking to myself now, so bad
Just turn it off dude...no reason to ruin the rest of your day...at least you showed up, unlike the team.
FYI - 77's a dudette.
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Assassin said:

BearForce said:

BaylorProud77 said:

Talking to myself now, so bad
Just turn it off dude...no reason to ruin the rest of your day...at least you showed up, unlike the team.
FYI - 77's a dudette.


Thanks
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BearForce said:

The protection on offense is scheme fixable

The running game is fixable

No Sean Lee apparently is catastrophic and Jaylon Smith is a liability. We have to figure out the LB thing because Lee will be out again at some point...bet on it.
Smith was only to be playing 10-15 snaps a game this year as his nerve slowly generates. Betcha next year will be a massive improvement. So he's only a temporary liability the way I see it. Hitchens kinda disappeared as the game went on. Not sure what happened to the rest of the LBs

Right now we could easily miss the playoffs at 9-7 or 8-8. Losing your starting LT, LB, CB, kicker and of course MVP RB will do that to you.
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BTW - Awuzzie has to get back on the field. Huge talent if he can stay healthy
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not sure that Green or Bell might be better at RG. Would certainly fit Greens skills better. Move Zach out to LT while Smith recouped
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Assassin said:

BearForce said:

The protection on offense is scheme fixable

The running game is fixable

No Sean Lee apparently is catastrophic and Jaylon Smith is a liability. We have to figure out the LB thing because Lee will be out again at some point...bet on it.
Smith was only to be playing 10-15 snaps a game this year as his nerve slowly generates. Betcha next year will be a massive improvement. So he's only a temporary liability the way I see it. Hitchens kinda disappeared as the game went on. Not sure what happened to the rest of the LBs

Right now we could easily miss the playoffs at 9-7 or 8-8. Losing your starting LT, LB, CB, kicker and of course MVP RB will do that to you.


Hitchens at MLB is money but with Jaylon in, Hitchens slides to SLB which isn't a good fit for either of them.
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Assassin said:

BearForce said:

The protection on offense is scheme fixable

The running game is fixable

No Sean Lee apparently is catastrophic and Jaylon Smith is a liability. We have to figure out the LB thing because Lee will be out again at some point...bet on it.
Smith was only to be playing 10-15 snaps a game this year as his nerve slowly generates. Betcha next year will be a massive improvement. So he's only a temporary liability the way I see it. Hitchens kinda disappeared as the game went on. Not sure what happened to the rest of the LBs

Right now we could easily miss the playoffs at 9-7 or 8-8. Losing your starting LT, LB, CB, kicker and of course MVP RB will do that to you.
Could even miss the playoffs at 10-6 as we already have 3 conference losses against teams that we likely would be fighting for wild cards against (GB, Atl, and LA if they don't win their division).

That said, I don't know if Justin Durant is the answer but I think the only way to stem the tide of having Sean Lee out is a lineup that keeps Hitchens at MLB to plug the middle. Jaylon is hopefully the future at MLB but right now he is a liability whose playing time needs to be minimized.

I can't remember but has Collins ever played LT? If so maybe you move him and then put Chaz at RT. Either way, the OL has some issues to be addressed this off season as I think you need an insurance policy for Tyron Smith who I don't know how much longer he last with that back.

And one last thing, and Atlanta is perfect example of this, we lack talent at WR to help Dak. Dez isn't a game breaker anymore, TWill never was, Butler isn't, etc. It is time to invest in getting a playmaker, game breaker at WR.
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Not dead by any means but we are playing with fire with our conference record let alone head to head with the teams around us.

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BearForce said:


I can't remember but has Collins ever played LT? If so maybe you move him and then put Chaz at RT. Either way, the OL has some issues to be addressed this off season as I think you need an insurance policy for Tyron Smith who I don't know how much longer he last with that back.

And one last thing, and Atlanta is perfect example of this, we lack talent at WR to help Dak. Dez isn't a game breaker anymore, TWill never was, Butler isn't, etc. It is time to invest in getting a playmaker, game breaker at WR.
Collins played LG at LSU his sophmore year, then LT his last two years. Led the team in pancakes and plays from scrimmage. He was All SEC at LT for both Jr and Sr years

We've turned down several shots at some second tier speed WRs in FA over the years. I think someone that can get 35-45 catches a year would be an improvement over Butler who has a hard time with route running. Dak simply doesnt trust him I dont think.

I think Terrance is a good slot WR. His best attribute is coming back to the ball/adjusting to the QB. He'll always be a body catcher which really makes the target small for Dak.

Dez is Dez. Possession WR. Great when it comes to handfighting but appears to have a harder and harder time getting open
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BearForce said:

Not dead by any means but we are playing with fire with our conference record let alone head to head with the teams around us.

And we've lost to two of the teams we are tied with
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On the basis of today's game, even given it was against last year's Super Bowl loser, I'm guessing Elliot's suspension will keep the Cowboys out of the playoffs.
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bearlyafarmer said:

On the basis of today's game, even given it was against last year's Super Bowl loser, I'm guessing Elliot's suspension will keep the Cowboys out of the playoffs.
Guessing we end up around 9-6 or so. May or may not get us into the Wild Card depending on other teams.

Currently we would not make the playoffs; http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

Gotta say, the only team above us in the NFC that is superior are the Eagles (yeeeech....) We get Lee, Zeke and Smith back along with Dan Bailey and we beat any of them. Just gotta get into the Wildcard

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gotta say - theres a lot of blame to shoulder here including coaches. I have no idea why they didnt put a TE on left side. You have a pretty strong RG and RT. Why not keep the TE there? Or an H back right behind the LT? Or FB there?

LT was pretty much bare the whole game
I didnt notice it this much - but Broadus did go back and watch the game film. No way in hell I'm going to

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Scout's Notebook: Blocking Breakdowns, Anthony Hitchens' Great Effort; More
Monday, November 13, 2017 12:11 AM CST
By Bryan Broaddus
Football Analyst/Scout
@BryanBroaddus

FRISCO, Texas It was a rough outing for the Cowboys at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Here are my first impressions from Sunday's lost to Atlanta.

Chaz Green will shoulder much of the blame for this loss. His inability to handle Adrian Clayborn was not expected. In preparation for this game, Green took all the snaps at practice and from a mental standpoint was ready to go, but physically he wasn't. If there was a defensive lineman that I was worried about in this matchup -- it sure wasn't Clayborn or Brooks Reed against Green, but La'el Collins working against Vic Beasley. As poor as Green was, without studying the tape I have a feeling that Collins was just as good, which once again is a positive sign. If Tyron Smith is unable to go this week against the Eagles, I would expect that we would hear about both Green and Byron Bellsplitting snaps during practice, and by Saturday have a starter at left tackle.

I was excited to see the start that Anthony Brown got off to with the contested ball that ended up as an Xavier Woods interception. To be honest, Brown has had his share of struggles and for him to get that early play on the ball was a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, that would be his best play all day. Brown continues to have problems with his technique and has become a penalty machine. Receivers have been able to take advantage of him in routes and quarterbacks have made him a primary target when they need a play, which has happened far too often this season. I would not be surprised to see Jourdan Lewis and Chidobe Awuzie getting more snaps in practice if the situation for Brown doesn't improve.

Things had been going well for Jaylon Smith since Sean Lee returned to the lineup. The coaches asked him to play less snaps and that allowed him to become more comfortable with his role in the defense. With Lee once again out of the lineup, the coaching staff is going to have to come up with a plan to not have Smith play so many snaps. I am not sure the answer is Justin Durant, but instead I'd see what you have in Justin March-Lillard. He is a veteran player that, if you're able to work him along with Anthony Hitchens and Smith, it just might save the Cowboys from having to expose Smith to so many plays like he had to play earlier in the season and against the Falcons.

I wasn't buying into the idea that everything was going to be okay without Ezekiel Elliott in the lineup. This is no disrespect to the other running backs on the roster, but they were going to miss all of those special qualities he brings the tough running, the pass catching, but more importantly the pass protection. I am convinced that when Elliott plays, opponents have a difficult time preparing for him because he brings the offense balance. Opponents can't just pin their ears back and rush because they have to respect the ball in his hands. The Cowboys have won games with Chaz Green starting at tackle, but let's not forget that Elliott was right there with him. No balance with this offense and you see exactly what happens.

Great effort by Anthony Hitchens to try and hold things together for the defense. Have to respect the way that he was flying around to the ball and bringing ball carriers down. It wasn't easy for him to have to prepare all week at middle linebacker and then have to shift over to the weak side in order to fill in for Sean Lee, -- but he handled the assignment well. I will be interested to see, if Lee once again can't go, how they play this with Hitchens, Smith and the other backup linebackers. Hitchens is the one guy who doesn't need to be coming off the field anytime soon.

Give the Falcons' secondary credit in the way that they played against these Cowboys receivers. If what Jason Garrett said in the postgame was true, and the ball was meant to get out of Dak Prescott's hand quicker, then the coverage was outstanding. Just watching the game, I didn't get the feeling that there were many open looks for Prescott, unlike last week against the Chiefs when no matter where he wanted to go with the ball, there was someone open on the other end. Film might tell a different story, but I have my doubts.

After playing well the previous weeks, I didn't feel like this was one of Orlando Scandrick's better games. It was surprising to see him miss tackles on key downs or just allow receivers free access on routes. That generally isn't the way that he has been playing. He had been doing a good job of making those plays to get the defense off the field, but against the Falcons, for some reason it was a completely different story.

I thought I saw a little jump in the return game from Ryan Switzer. I had been waiting for him to get some of those opportunities where he could show what he could do. I like when he is able to take the ball and go straight up the field. There is a burst to his game, and before the year's out, I would not be surprised if he were to take one the distance. There is some skill there. All he needs is a small crease.

I saw some flashes from Lewis Neal in this game when he was put in the lineup. He was able to penetrate a couple of different times and was credited with a quarterback hurry. I don't think they want to take David Irving off the field much, but Neal might be someone to keep an eye on these next couple of weeks. He's not the prototypical size for a defense tackle, but he if can continue to be disruptive inside, these coaches will find a way to put him on the field.

It was the perfect call for the situation and a well-executed fake by punter Chris Jones, but Brice Butler had no business pushing off there. He had the element of surprise on his side. If he had just driven off the ball like he is covering, he's going to get his man out of position to make the reception and keep the drive alive.

It seems like a distant memory of how well Mike Nugent handled the kicking situation in driving rain during the Redskins game. Against the Falcons, there was no excuse for him to miss that 38-yard field goal. There was nothing difficult about it. The snap and hold were perfect, but he just pushed it. What made matters worse was it was the only opportunity that the offense had in the third quarter to make it a one-score game. If Nugent can get that kick home, it could have given his teammates a little boost, but instead it just opened the floodgates for the Falcons.

I just didn't feel good about this game coming into it. It wasn't the loss of Tyron Smith that bothered me, but more how the Falcons had played. They clearly weren't the team that we saw make a Super Bowl run last season on both sides of the ball. They had struggled to score points and the defense wasn't stopping opponents from running the ball. I just had a gut feeling that somehow they would play better as a team, and that with all the things the Cowboys were dealing with, no matter how great things were last week against the Chiefs, this was going to be a difficult game to win. As bleak as that loss was, I like their chances to bounce back this week against the Eagles. I'm going to watch this Falcons game and have a better idea for you what happened on Monday.
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The Dallas Morning News reports the Cowboys are bracing for WLB Sean Lee (hamstring) to miss the next three games.

Sources told beat writer Brandon George that Lee's likeliest return date is December 10 against the Giants. The Cowboys play three games in a forthcoming 12-day span, beginning with the Eagles this Sunday night, followed by the Chargers on Thanksgiving, and then another Thursday nighter against the Redskins. Lee is expected to miss all three with Week 14 against the G-Men as his target for return.
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Cowboys coach Jason Garrett admitted Monday that LT Tyron Smith (groin) and WLB Sean Lee (hamstring) are uncertain to play in Week 11.

Smith and Lee are two of the biggest difference makers on Dallas' roster. Sans Smith in Week 10, the Cowboys coughed up six sacks to Adrian Clayborn and were gashed by Atlanta's offense without Lee on the field. Missing Smith and Lee would be devastating ahead of Sunday's critical division bout with the Eagles.
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Cowboys coach Jason Garrett does not expect K Dan Bailey (groin) to play Week 11 against the Eagles.

Bailey was expected to miss at least four weeks after picking up a groin injury Week 7 against the 49ers, so this is not a big surprise. The early rule out does suggest he will be at best questionable for the Thanksgiving Day game against the Chargers. Mike Nugent has been filling in with Bailey sidelined.
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Eagles OC Frank Reich expects Jay Ajayi to take on a bigger role against the Cowboys in Week 11.

"He's able to handle everything that we give him at this point," said Reich. "When I look at our game plan for this week, I look at it and there's probably not a play on there that I wouldn't feel comfortable putting his number on." Ajayi was limited to eight touches in his Eagles debut in Week 9, but had the bye week to study the team's playbook and has apparently been a quick study. LeGarrette Blount and Corey Clement will still be in the mix, but it sounds as if Ajayi could ascend to lead status in Week 11.

Dallas will be without their best LB and run-stopper, Sean Lee, and even with Lee starting 7 games, they're 30th in rush DVOA and 24th in adjusted yards (per FO). The Eagles are favored in this one (-3) and they're averaging the 2nd-most rushing attempts per game (31.4).
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Starting Sunday night, the Cowboys play three home games in 12 days: Nov. 19 vs. the Eagles; Nov. 23 vs. the Chargers; Nov. 30 vs. the Redskins.
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Anybody questioning my draft day judgement on Chaz Green now?
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Gust Avrakotos said:

Anybody questioning my draft day judgement on Chaz Green now?


Umm, i think if we could look back at old BaylorFan archives you will find I had him as a 7th rounder and sure as hell not a 3rd rounder. I was as pissed about that pick as Randy Gregory who i also predicted would be what he was.
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WHAT: Philadelphia Eagles (8-1) at Dallas Cowboys (5-4)
WHEN: Sunday, Nov. 19 - 7:30 p.m. (Central)
WHERE: AT&T Stadium, Arlington Texas
TELEVISION: NBC (Al Michaels & Cris Collinsworth)
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Assassin said:

WHAT: Philadelphia Eagles (8-1) at Dallas Cowboys (5-4)
WHEN: Sunday, Nov. 19 - 7:30 p.m. (Central)
WHERE: AT&T Stadium, Arlington Texas
TELEVISION: NBC (Al Michaels & Cris Collinsworth)
This is pretty much the season right here. There's no coming back from another NFC loss
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SicThe12 said:

Assassin said:

WHAT: Philadelphia Eagles (8-1) at Dallas Cowboys (5-4)
WHEN: Sunday, Nov. 19 - 7:30 p.m. (Central)
WHERE: AT&T Stadium, Arlington Texas
TELEVISION: NBC (Al Michaels & Cris Collinsworth)
This is pretty much the season right here. There's no coming back from another NFC loss


This...
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SicThe12 said:

Assassin said:

WHAT: Philadelphia Eagles (8-1) at Dallas Cowboys (5-4)
WHEN: Sunday, Nov. 19 - 7:30 p.m. (Central)
WHERE: AT&T Stadium, Arlington Texas
TELEVISION: NBC (Al Michaels & Cris Collinsworth)
This is pretty much the season right here. There's no coming back from another NFC loss
we have to get to 9 wins I would think, to be in the wildcard race discussion. In 2016 in the NFC, it took the Giants at 11-5 behind us in one wildcard and Detroit at 9-7 in the other. Tampa Bay missed out due to tiebreakers at 9-7.

Really hard to predict who will do what this early when it comes to teams hovering between .500 and .600.

We should have Tyron back in a week or two - possibly Sunday night but not likely. Lee back in 3 games or so and Zeke back in 5 games for the last two. Bailey should be back in a couple or three weeks. Thats 4 Pro Bowlers.

Awuzzie and Swaim could both be back against the birds but could also be another week. Rico may be back before the end of the year.

Our next games are Philly, Chargers, Skins, @Giants, @Raiders, Seattle and @Philly

We're better than the Chargers, Skins and Giants and marginally better than the Raiders. Seahags have a ton of injuries so they're up in the air. Richard Sherman ruptured his Achilles and he's been our nemesis

So we need 4 wins to be in the probable discussion. 5 would be much better.

If the season ended today:





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