Kendal Briles to TCU rumors??

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boognish_bear
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After the initial shock has worn off seems some of the fans are coming around



RegentCoverup
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I kind of hope they hire him, because I know some coaches in Texas High Schools that will want to revisit his comments.
boognish_bear
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PartyBear
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The guy makes a good point. Why not just pay to keep Riley. He is great, it appears to me at least, he is already in the system at TCU knows Dykes and the rest of the staff and players etc.
Fre3dombear
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They would be smart to announce it on MLK day while everyone is off celebrating and introspecting
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Riley might want a new challenge and may want to coach a Clemson team with a pretty easy path to the playoff. Take Clemson back to the playoff next year and he's probably going to have P5 HC suitors. Also may want to get out from under the Dykes shadow as he's considered a pretty good offensive mind in his own right.
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boognish_bear said:

PartyBear said:

TCU folks on Twitter are adamantly opposed.


Yep there are a small handful of people on their forum that would be on board....but the fan pushback on Twitter is near universal

Universal all up until the point they hire him. Don't see him leaving the SEC for TCU though
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Fre3dombear said:

Why would KB leave sec to tcu?

I love the Briles but KB hasn't been particularly special at any of his stops.

I would be quite amusing if tcu hired him
Kendall Briles was a darn good HS football player. Exceptional really.

Besides that I haven't noticed him stand out all that much.

His dad is a once a generation type football mind, that doesn't mean
his son is.
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The pearl clutching of TCU fans, as Art makes his way down to his 50 yard line seats for each home game, will be glorious. Hopefully he won't rape them as he saunters down the aisle!
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Mothballs said:

boognish_bear said:

PartyBear said:

TCU folks on Twitter are adamantly opposed.


Yep there are a small handful of people on their forum that would be on board....but the fan pushback on Twitter is near universal

Universal all up until the point they hire him. Don't see him leaving the SEC for TCU though


Like all those aggies that had a major issue with aggy hiring the greatest rape enabler in college football history

Whoops
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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.
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TCU is like a Democrat who virtue signals about human trafficking yesterday only to hire the pimp today ... principles are mythology and only power matters.
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RegentCoverup
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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..
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Startlegram running a story




Steven Johnson: TCU wants to hire Kendal Briles, is he really worth the headache?

By Steven Johnson
January 16, 2023 1:45 PM
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Is Kendal Briles the next TCU offensive coordinator?
Is Kendal Briles the next TCU offensive coordinator? Bill Sikes AP
TCU is zeroing in on its next offensive coordinator.

Reports broke over the weekend that coach Sonny Dykes is targeting Kendal Briles to replace Garrett Riley as offensive coordinator.

A source within program made it clear over the week that no deal was finalized and that in the past 48 hours, the process has come to a standstill. Why? Because when the move was leaked it was met by fierce pushback by the TCU fanbase and from national pundits.

Our university deserves better than to further associate itself with the sin and carnage that resulted from the Baylor football program. I can't imagine any good reason to make our staff look even more like that one. @CoachSonnyDykes @JDonati_TCU https://t.co/FM3UZAKUE8


January 17, 2023 at 11:30 AM
It takes months, sometimes years to build up goodwill. And Dykes and athletics director Jeremiah Donati built plenty in their first year together that included a national championship appearance, a completely reworked media policy and fan support from the likes of Dez Bryant and Luka Doncic.

While it takes a long time to build goodwill, you can lose it in a blink of an eye and TCU has to tread lightly as the emotions of the 65-7 blowout defeat to Georgia last Monday are still fresh and were only made worse when offensive coordinator Garrett Riley's departed to Clemson.


Do you really want to compound that with hiring the son of a former nemesis that comes with plenty of baggage? Let's layout why there has been so much push back against the hire.

On the surface Briles checks many of the boxes Dykes wants in his next coordinator. Deep Texas ties, familiarity with the air raid offense and he's coached quarterbacks since 2015. But his name is Briles and that's where the baggage starts.

Being the son of Art Briles, who led TCU's greatest rival to its best stretch in program history and kept TCU out of the College Football Playoff in 2014, would be enough to make fans less than enthusiastic about the hire. But those are mostly juvenile feelings that come with rivalries in the sport.


That could be overlooked with a charming press conference and with an exciting offense in spring football. But what about Kendal's involvement in the sexual assault scandal that rocked Baylor and the entire country?

Kendal's name was not implicated and he actually kept his job at Baylor after his father was fired, but don't mistake that as a sign of complete innocence.

According to a Title IX lawsuit filed Jan. 27, 2017, Briles, then an assistant for his father at Baylor, asked a Dallas-area recruit: "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."

A Houston Chronicle column by Jenny Dial Creech said evidence of Briles using sex as a recruiting pitch go beyond what was stated in the lawsuit.

Dial Creech reported that three players from the Houston area who went on to other universities said that Briles told recruits female students at Baylor were very available to football players. Kendal showed little to no remorse for how the scandal played out in Waco.

Just a few months after his father was let go, Kendal 'honored' his father by coaching a game against Northwestern State with the initials "CAB (Coach Art Briles)" on his hands. That doesn't sound like remorse.

His ties to his father hasn't stopped Kendal from landing plenty of jobs and it is worth noting that Dykes already hired a former Baylor staffer with Kaz Kazadi, as the assistant athletics director for football human performance.

Kazadi was one of the most integral staff members to TCU's rapid turn around with multiple players praising his approach to nutrition and sports psychology. So obviously there can be value to bringing in a coach that has ties to such an ugly situation, but Kazadi was with Dykes for years at SMU before heading to Fort Worth.

There's also a difference between hiring a strength coach and an offensive coordinator. Briles will be the most visible assistant on Dykes' staff and that must be considered. On a campus that is almost 60% women, what type of message would that send to them and the women that support the Horned Frogs?

As for the football case for Briles, his track record is elite, but it has begun to cool off the last few years. In his lone year at Florida State, in 2019, the offense improved under his watch, but finished just 73rd in scoring offense and 61st in total offense.

Since 2020, Briles has coached at Arkansas where the offenses have been good, but not great. The Razorbacks have yet to produce a Top-25 scoring offense and Arkansas was middle of the pack in the SEC in most categories despite starting the season ranked No. 19.

Briles has still done some good things in Fayetteville, including producing one of the nation's top running backs and molding K.J. Jefferson into one of the sport's top dual-threat quarterbacks.


But are his offenses still producing at the level they were at Baylor, Florida Atlantic or Houston? Not quite which begs the question: Is it really worth the P.R. nightmare to bring him into the fold?

With all the interest I'm sure there is at the TCU offensive coordinator position, is Briles the best the school can do? I don't think so, but what fans or the media thinks may not matter.
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Sorry, I just don't get the reason for P R nightmare. People just blow **** up in their head.
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boognish_bear said:



But are his offenses still producing at the level they were at Baylor, Florida Atlantic or Houston? Not quite which begs the question: Is it really worth the P.R. nightmare to bring him into the fold?

This is faulty logic at it's finest.

Should we hire this person if and only if people are going to complain?

Here's a better idea, Johnson. Ask if it's the right thing to do and quit worrying about whether people will complain.
boognish_bear
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Getting my popcorn ready to watch TCU fans start to rationalize this hire

PartyBear
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I noticed that Brenda Tracey is on the situation per twitter. I believe she will begin to dog them. Not sure why she hasnt dogged KBriles previous stops.
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PartyBear said:

I noticed that Brenda Tracey is on the situation per twitter. I believe she will begin to dog them. Not sure why she hasnt dogged KBriles previous stops.


Because she knows big 12 teams don't play defense
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boognish_bear said:

Startlegram running a story




Steven Johnson: TCU wants to hire Kendal Briles, is he really worth the headache?

By Steven Johnson
January 16, 2023 1:45 PM
star-telegram Logo
Is Kendal Briles the next TCU offensive coordinator?
Is Kendal Briles the next TCU offensive coordinator? Bill Sikes AP
TCU is zeroing in on its next offensive coordinator.

Reports broke over the weekend that coach Sonny Dykes is targeting Kendal Briles to replace Garrett Riley as offensive coordinator.

A source within program made it clear over the week that no deal was finalized and that in the past 48 hours, the process has come to a standstill. Why? Because when the move was leaked it was met by fierce pushback by the TCU fanbase and from national pundits.

Our university deserves better than to further associate itself with the sin and carnage that resulted from the Baylor football program. I can't imagine any good reason to make our staff look even more like that one. @CoachSonnyDykes @JDonati_TCU https://t.co/FM3UZAKUE8


January 17, 2023 at 11:30 AM
It takes months, sometimes years to build up goodwill. And Dykes and athletics director Jeremiah Donati built plenty in their first year together that included a national championship appearance, a completely reworked media policy and fan support from the likes of Dez Bryant and Luka Doncic.

While it takes a long time to build goodwill, you can lose it in a blink of an eye and TCU has to tread lightly as the emotions of the 65-7 blowout defeat to Georgia last Monday are still fresh and were only made worse when offensive coordinator Garrett Riley's departed to Clemson.


Do you really want to compound that with hiring the son of a former nemesis that comes with plenty of baggage? Let's layout why there has been so much push back against the hire.

On the surface Briles checks many of the boxes Dykes wants in his next coordinator. Deep Texas ties, familiarity with the air raid offense and he's coached quarterbacks since 2015. But his name is Briles and that's where the baggage starts.

Being the son of Art Briles, who led TCU's greatest rival to its best stretch in program history and kept TCU out of the College Football Playoff in 2014, would be enough to make fans less than enthusiastic about the hire. But those are mostly juvenile feelings that come with rivalries in the sport.


That could be overlooked with a charming press conference and with an exciting offense in spring football. But what about Kendal's involvement in the sexual assault scandal that rocked Baylor and the entire country?

Kendal's name was not implicated and he actually kept his job at Baylor after his father was fired, but don't mistake that as a sign of complete innocence.

According to a Title IX lawsuit filed Jan. 27, 2017, Briles, then an assistant for his father at Baylor, asked a Dallas-area recruit: "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."

A Houston Chronicle column by Jenny Dial Creech said evidence of Briles using sex as a recruiting pitch go beyond what was stated in the lawsuit.

Dial Creech reported that three players from the Houston area who went on to other universities said that Briles told recruits female students at Baylor were very available to football players. Kendal showed little to no remorse for how the scandal played out in Waco.

Just a few months after his father was let go, Kendal 'honored' his father by coaching a game against Northwestern State with the initials "CAB (Coach Art Briles)" on his hands. That doesn't sound like remorse.

His ties to his father hasn't stopped Kendal from landing plenty of jobs and it is worth noting that Dykes already hired a former Baylor staffer with Kaz Kazadi, as the assistant athletics director for football human performance.

Kazadi was one of the most integral staff members to TCU's rapid turn around with multiple players praising his approach to nutrition and sports psychology. So obviously there can be value to bringing in a coach that has ties to such an ugly situation, but Kazadi was with Dykes for years at SMU before heading to Fort Worth.

There's also a difference between hiring a strength coach and an offensive coordinator. Briles will be the most visible assistant on Dykes' staff and that must be considered. On a campus that is almost 60% women, what type of message would that send to them and the women that support the Horned Frogs?

As for the football case for Briles, his track record is elite, but it has begun to cool off the last few years. In his lone year at Florida State, in 2019, the offense improved under his watch, but finished just 73rd in scoring offense and 61st in total offense.

Since 2020, Briles has coached at Arkansas where the offenses have been good, but not great. The Razorbacks have yet to produce a Top-25 scoring offense and Arkansas was middle of the pack in the SEC in most categories despite starting the season ranked No. 19.

Briles has still done some good things in Fayetteville, including producing one of the nation's top running backs and molding K.J. Jefferson into one of the sport's top dual-threat quarterbacks.


But are his offenses still producing at the level they were at Baylor, Florida Atlantic or Houston? Not quite which begs the question: Is it really worth the P.R. nightmare to bring him into the fold?

With all the interest I'm sure there is at the TCU offensive coordinator position, is Briles the best the school can do? I don't think so, but what fans or the media thinks may not matter.
Does this dude get paid to throw up this garbage.

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BUBBFAN
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She is a headline seeker.
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BUBBFAN said:

She is a headline seeker.
She said Briles had the smile of a used car salesman.

The irony there.
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"Woke" columnists who ask "whether it's worth it" to hire KB should instead be asking themselves why they listen to people like her. Brenda's approach would brand scarlet letters into the chests of every man she despises (for profit).

The agitators are the ones who want eternal punishment and damnation.

Weren't they featured in Dante's "Inferno?"




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So according to Brenda, Kendall must wear the scarlet letter for the rest of his life and never coach football again because his remorsefulness seems fake to her? The dude was part of an athletic department that made mistakes but I'm sure he learned a lot from those mistakes. Did she attack OU, Ole Miss, or UCF for hiring Lebby?

If everywhere Kendall went erupted in scandal and recruiting violations then I'd pass as an AD but if he addressed what he'd learned from his past and talked about how he'd made sure his other stops had proper procedures in place I'd probably okay his hiring.
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It seems like this is his first stop that it, it is all rearing its head again like it has for Art Briles. Not sure why because TCU is geographically close to Baylor and a similar school? I did not think there were issues when he was hired at previous places over the past 6 years.
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Don't forget one of colleges footballs commandments-
Thou shalt not question the hiring decisions of the mighty SEC
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As others have mentioned....it is interesting that TCU seems to be catching a lot more hell on this potential hire than Ark or UH did. I don't mind seeing TCU get the heat at all....but I'm not sure why this is striking more a nerve than the last 2 stops.

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haven't seen it from a verified source....but Frog's Today is reporting it's done. They were the first source to break the news last week that this was in the works.

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boognish_bear said:

As others have mentioned....it is interesting that TCU seems to be catching a lot more hell on this potential hire than Ark or UH did. I don't mind seeing TCU get the heat at all....but I'm not sure why this is striking more a nerve than the last 2 stops.


Because TCU made it to the title game. If they're 8-4 last year, nobody outside Waco and FW barely notice.
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boognish_bear said:

As others have mentioned....it is interesting that TCU seems to be catching a lot more hell on this potential hire than Ark or UH did. I don't mind seeing TCU get the heat at all....but I'm not sure why this is striking more a nerve than the last 2 stops.
That's a really good question, actually. I think it's two things.

1. FSU in particular and the SEC generally are the opposite of morality police. There are so many skeletons buried under both that program and that conference that their fans and the public have both given up generally moralizing much. Hugh Freeze and Bobby Petrino both got big gigs in the SEC this offseason, and FSU has been shooting from the hip for decades.

2. This brings a Briles back into a Baylor orbit and with a school that was very publicly part of the morality campaign against us that also happens to be coming off a natty run. I don't know that everyone is consciously internalizing that, but it seems somehow unjust publicly for a rival who skated on the Baylor abuse train for 5 years to now to reaping at least some of the fruit that we were forced to cast off. It smacks of rank hypocrisy in ways his previous appointments didn't.
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I think Sonny has screwed things up. I havent checked but I dont think teams with K Briles as OC are great. I do know we went about .500 once he was named OC. A hell of a lot was going on but still we were .500 with him as OC. I dont think any subsequent team he has been OC for has had a great year.

If there is decline at TCU in Sonny's year 2 and given the year they just had, it is about 100% certain there will be, Briles and Sonny will be blamed.

...and then there is the bad PR this is creating. Whatever good will Sonny built up for this past season is already evaporating and will be gone quickly, I think.
 
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