PartyBear said:

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We currently have a perfect record against Briles offensive assistants at Baylor who are now OCs.

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It's the Air Force offense we have to worry about

JP1037 said:

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baylorguy09 said:

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JP1037 said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..

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I think Kendall is going to TCU to take Baylor down a notch. I kinda think he will. This is bad for Baylor.

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Lol. I am sure that is exactly why he left an SEC program to coach at a small, private school. $$$… cough cough…$$$. He just wants to put Baylor down a notch. You can't be serious…

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I'm not saying it is the only reason. But it's a reason. We effed his Dad over. That doesn't just go away.

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I'm sure Lebby feels the same way.

Seems like TCU keeps getting better and we are headed down.

How? ..I'd take Garrett Riley over Kendall every day and twice on Sunday...his transformation of Duggan was amazing..

Additionally there is also a 99.9% chance they won't be better next season than they were this season. In fact the probability is high they will not be nearly as good.

The win at all costs mentality is alive and well at TCU. https://t.co/lOFIvrRmIn

— Brenda Tracy (@brendatracy24) January 19, 2023

Brenda's strategy is pretty obvious.
She's just chasing dollars and speaking fees. She rode the woke wave and it's starting to fizzle out.
The Briles family paid for her house and car upgrade, among other things.

She should be sending them a Christmas card.

Can y'all take your tin foil hat nonsense to the TCU boards, now that you're horned frog fans?

It is kinda fun to watch Dykes not yield to Social Media pressure, at least, not so far.

Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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PartyBear said:

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In fairness to at least some consistent TCU folks, it seems the controversy is being generated and fueled in large part from within by alums etc who are pissed at the move. Hence why Sonny has screwed up.

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It's because those same alumni went all-in on the Baylor rape and tape-finger jokes and now they look even more foolish.

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In the TCU forum they have a filter where when a poster types "Kendal" it converts to "Tapefingers." I'm guessing now that he is their OC they will need to remove that filter.

Golden Helmet said:

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Ok

So they were 15th.

Got it.

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If you value "yards per game" over "points per game" then I guess Total Offense is that stat you want to go to.

bear2be2 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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Yeah, I think hiring those guys is a bit of Art by proxy, while mostly escaping the media backlash. Art was always the real OC when he was head coach. I don't think they come close to approaching the level and depth of football IQ.

I don't really remember Tracy being so outspoken against those guys getting jobs elsewhere. Maybe she was, but nobody was listening much any more.

Yes

Just like everyone else Has done for decades.

Frauds that keep getting hired away by Head Coaches at major programs.

Why are all these multi millionaires who are experts in their fields after decades of study and dedication so dumb?

Wild stuff.

By in large, Baylor fans suck.

Lebby has fielded top offenses at every stop he's been. Still early at OU. Pete Thamel is also reporting he's a name to watch at Alabama if they part with O'Brien or he leaves. Would be interesting to see if Saban got any blow back.

Little Briles has fielded very competent offenses. His tenure at FSU was short as the head coach was fired early in the season. Lot of success at Houston. Plenty of success at Arkansas considering the dearth of talent inherited.

Neither has captured the level of success achieved at Baylor but that's hard to do at G5 stops(UH, UCF) as no one really pays attention. It's also hard to get the accolades under a Kiffin or Heupel who are considered top flight offensive minds themselves. It would appear to me Arkansas focused on running more with a weak defense and missing a game changing receiver like Treylon Burks.

Would I hire them? Maybe? I'd definitely interview them. It took Art and company a few years to really get the ball rolling.

Golden Helmet said:

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Frauds that keep getting hired away by Head Coaches at major programs.

Why are all these multi millionaires who are experts in their fields after decades of study and dedication so dumb?

Wild stuff.

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What uber successful head coaches have they been hired by? Before Dykes pulled the trigger, the best head coach Kendal had ever worked for was Lane Kiffin, who has never won anything above a Sun Belt title. And the only proven head coach to hire Lebby for reasons other than nepotism had the best year of his career after splitting from him.

These guys were hired because of their associations with Art. Take that away and they're nothing more than moderately successful coordinators/cheap knockoffs who leave for a new job each time they start to get exposed as such.

boognish_bear said:

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The win at all costs mentality is alive and well at TCU. https://t.co/lOFIvrRmIn

— Brenda Tracy (@brendatracy24) January 19, 2023

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It would not take very many people to consistently overwhelm her social media avenues with messaging calling her out for the fraud she it.

She the type of person who will not be ok with any change - she lives off complaining...she's a disgusting pig.

If TCU is gonna take a bunch of crap over this they may as well have hired the real deal and gotten Art as their OC.

Why? I have no problem at all with her dogging TCU? Why not let TCU catch shxt for this? Let people pile on them like they did to Baylor for having some of the same coaches they are hiring.

boognish_bear said:

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The win at all costs mentality is alive and well at TCU. https://t.co/lOFIvrRmIn

— Brenda Tracy (@brendatracy24) January 19, 2023

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Is she angling for a payday from TCU? Also if you read the comments on there people don't even understand what happened.

PartyBear said:

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Why? I have no problem at all with her dogging TCU? Why not let TCU catch shxt for this? Let people pile on them like they did to Baylor for having some of the same coaches they are hiring.

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Yep. At least she's consistent in this case, unlike Mack Engel.

It's admirable how you don't let facts get in the way and stick to your hatred of these two so passionately.

These guys have been good coaches. And they have the greatest offensive mind in the last generation of college football on their speed dial. Just let them loose to do what Art would do. I'd hire either of them in a red hot minute.

At least in his time at BU, Kendall was a terrible play caller. Basically Tecmo Bowl type stuff.

And a call to daddy is not fixing that.

Not sure if that's changed.

And I am 100% ok with him and TCU getting dragged through the mud on this. TCU led the parade against Briles and BU. Total hypocrites.

Golden Helmet said:

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It's admirable how you don't let facts get in the way and stick to your hatred of these two so passionately.

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What facts?

What's admirable is your blind loyalty to coaches' blanket competency.

The appeal to authority fallacy is a favorite among former coaches, who conflate knowledge of X's and O's with the ability to lead and get teams to execute.

I have the utmost respect for coaches. I work with them almost daily. But not all coaches are equal. And just being one doesn't make you a good one.

Both Kendal Briles and Jeff Lebby run Wish.com versions of the Art Briles' veer-and-shoot. That will be good enough to help you blow out bad teams. But where Art's teams shat down their legs once or twice a year, Kendal's and Jeff's teams do four or five times. I'll believe they can lead championship-level offenses when they do so above the Sun Belt level -- or for head coaches that aren't considered offensive gurus themselves.

I don't think he was a "terrible play caller" at Baylor. Art was standing right beside him.

I do think Art has some sort of a 6th sense that's next to impossible to translate or transfer. But I'd still be a lot better if he was my mentor.

Briles, 40, has been the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach the past three seasons at Arkansas, which experienced an offensive upheaval under Briles. The Hogs finished 15th nationally in total offense this past season while averaging 32.5 points per game and 30.9 points in 2021, which was the most at Arkansas since the 2015 season. The Hogs averaged just 21.4 points per game in 2019, the year before Briles arrived.

Arkansas was seventh nationally in rushing offense in 2022 (236.5 yards per game). The Hogs' 3,075 rushing yards were their most since the 2003 season. Briles also enhanced Arkansas' passing game and its balance on offense. The Hogs were one of three FBS teams in 2022 (Ole Miss and UCLA the others) to average more than 230 rushing yards and 230 passing yards per game.

Congratulations to Kendall Briles. He & his whole family deserve all they are earning. Kinda wish he wasn't joining Tx Christian U. I have rooted for the teams he's been on since Baylor BOR screwed his family. I'm not sure I can cheer for TCU.

Who doesn't believe that he has already circled the date on his calendar for the Baylor game. Gonna be interesting.

Golden Helmet said:

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Briles, 40, has been the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach the past three seasons at Arkansas, which experienced an offensive upheaval under Briles. The Hogs finished 15th nationally in total offense this past season while averaging 32.5 points per game and 30.9 points in 2021, which was the most at Arkansas since the 2015 season. The Hogs averaged just 21.4 points per game in 2019, the year before Briles arrived.

Arkansas was seventh nationally in rushing offense in 2022 (236.5 yards per game). The Hogs' 3,075 rushing yards were their most since the 2003 season. Briles also enhanced Arkansas' passing game and its balance on offense. The Hogs were one of three FBS teams in 2022 (Ole Miss and UCLA the others) to average more than 230 rushing yards and 230 passing yards per game.

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Anyone who runs this offense will have pretty total and scoring offense numbers because it leads to a bunch of empty numbers against overmatched defenses.

But when you take a deeper look, you see that Arkansas scored 21 points in a loss to A&M, 17 in a loss to Mississippi State, 19 in a loss to Liberty and 10 in a loss to LSU. Running that offense, because of the strain it puts on your defense, you might as well chalk up a loss every time you score under 30, which (not coincidentally) the 7-6 Razorbacks did. Those are facts.

Kendal Briles and Jeff Lebby are good for three to five absolute stinkers a year. You're not winning a championship with that level of inconsistency, regardless of how pretty your offense in your wins.

Any team that can slow the running game against either of those coaches can befuddle them pretty quickly. Lebby's game plan against Texas this year was embarrassing.

bear2be2 said:

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Golden Helmet said:

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Briles, 40, has been the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach the past three seasons at Arkansas, which experienced an offensive upheaval under Briles. The Hogs finished 15th nationally in total offense this past season while averaging 32.5 points per game and 30.9 points in 2021, which was the most at Arkansas since the 2015 season. The Hogs averaged just 21.4 points per game in 2019, the year before Briles arrived.

Arkansas was seventh nationally in rushing offense in 2022 (236.5 yards per game). The Hogs' 3,075 rushing yards were their most since the 2003 season. Briles also enhanced Arkansas' passing game and its balance on offense. The Hogs were one of three FBS teams in 2022 (Ole Miss and UCLA the others) to average more than 230 rushing yards and 230 passing yards per game.

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Anyone who runs this offense will have pretty total and scoring offense numbers because it leads to a bunch of empty numbers against overmatched defenses.

But when you take a deeper look, you see that Arkansas scored 21 points in a loss to A&M, 17 in a loss to Mississippi State, 19 in a loss to Liberty and 10 in a loss to LSU. Running that offense, because of the strain it puts on your defense, you might as well chalk up a loss every time you score under 30, which (not coincidentally) the 7-6 Razorbacks did. Those are facts.

Kendal Briles and Jeff Lebby are good for three to five absolute stinkers a year. You're not winning a championship with that level of inconsistency, regardless of how pretty your offense in your wins.

Any team that can slow the running game against either of those coaches can befuddle them pretty quickly. Lebby's game plan against Texas this year was embarrassing.

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Also 3 of those 4 games were with back up or injured QBs who are universally bad unless you listen to the loons on this board that think that Malik Hornsby was a power five level QB. That Arkansas offense was great when healthy last year. Arkansas was just rarely healthy last season. Lebby I'm not sold on, Kendal Briles clearly is a quality OC though.

IvanBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Golden Helmet said:

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Briles, 40, has been the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach the past three seasons at Arkansas, which experienced an offensive upheaval under Briles. The Hogs finished 15th nationally in total offense this past season while averaging 32.5 points per game and 30.9 points in 2021, which was the most at Arkansas since the 2015 season. The Hogs averaged just 21.4 points per game in 2019, the year before Briles arrived.

Arkansas was seventh nationally in rushing offense in 2022 (236.5 yards per game). The Hogs' 3,075 rushing yards were their most since the 2003 season. Briles also enhanced Arkansas' passing game and its balance on offense. The Hogs were one of three FBS teams in 2022 (Ole Miss and UCLA the others) to average more than 230 rushing yards and 230 passing yards per game.

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Anyone who runs this offense will have pretty total and scoring offense numbers because it leads to a bunch of empty numbers against overmatched defenses.

But when you take a deeper look, you see that Arkansas scored 21 points in a loss to A&M, 17 in a loss to Mississippi State, 19 in a loss to Liberty and 10 in a loss to LSU. Running that offense, because of the strain it puts on your defense, you might as well chalk up a loss every time you score under 30, which (not coincidentally) the 7-6 Razorbacks did. Those are facts.

Kendal Briles and Jeff Lebby are good for three to five absolute stinkers a year. You're not winning a championship with that level of inconsistency, regardless of how pretty your offense in your wins.

Any team that can slow the running game against either of those coaches can befuddle them pretty quickly. Lebby's game plan against Texas this year was embarrassing.

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Also 3 of those 4 games were with back up or injured QBs who are universally bad unless you listen to the loons on this board that think that Malik Hornsby was a power five level QB. That Arkansas offense was great when healthy last year. Arkansas was just rarely healthy last season. Lebby I'm not sold on, Kendal Briles clearly is a quality OC though.

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Agree

We all get hired in our chosen professions for similar reasons…

The hands you shake and the people you know….can open doors otherwise you'd not have access to.

Somehow when it's football or another sport…nepotism is a dirty word….

I recall when Art promoted Jr to take the OC spot at BU….he said "if I don't hire him someone else will"….many on these boards praised his insightful genius and we're thankful he held onto an asset on our staff.

Now that other teams hire him (repeatedly)…even in the best football conference in the country….they're low grade dog food who are only where they are at because they are fraudsters who have yet to be exposed.

The hypocrisy is steaming hot around here…LOL

Beautiful and logical factually based assessment right here without bias….are you lost sir? This is Baylorfans….