KB is set up to fail. This team comes back to its true identity of 7-5 next year.

But

Doesnt matter. We get to call them hypocrites.

Need a new nickname for them featuring their hypocrisy.

In fairness to at least some consistent TCU folks, it seems the controversy is being generated and fueled in large part from within by alums etc who are pissed at the move. Hence why Sonny has screwed up.

KB had great results at his first 2 stops....and then average results after that. Arkansas never got to the point of melting scoreboards....but I guess they were at least showing improvement year after year.

Of course....the OC doesn't function in a vacuum. There are other pieces at play like player quality and head coach philosophy that can impact the results that an OC gets. When he was at FSU Taggert got fired after 3 games.

Here is where KB's teams ranked nationally each year in Scoring Offense after he left BU:

2017 FAU 8th
2018 UH 5th
2019 FSU 73rd
2020 Ark 86th
2021 Ark 48th
2022 Ark 35th

TCU was ranked 9th this year in Scoring Offense.

Married A Horn said:

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KB is set up to fail. This team comes back to its true identity of 7-5 next year.

But

Doesnt matter. We get to call them hypocrites.

Need a new nickname for them featuring their hypocrisy.

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TCU Horned Frauds?

PartyBear said:

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In fairness to at least some consistent TCU folks, it seems the controversy is being generated and fueled in large part from within by alums etc who are pissed at the move. Hence why Sonny has screwed up.

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It's because those same alumni went all-in on the Baylor rape and tape-finger jokes and now they look even more foolish.

boognish_bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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KB is set up to fail. This team comes back to its true identity of 7-5 next year.

But

Doesnt matter. We get to call them hypocrites.

Need a new nickname for them featuring their hypocrisy.

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TCU Horned Frauds?

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From HypnoToad

To HypocriteToad

boognish_bear said:

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KB had great results at his first 2 stops....and then average results after that. Arkansas never got the point of melting scoreboards....but I guess they were at least showing improvement year after year.

Of course....the OC doesn't function in a vacuum. There are other pieces at play like player quality and head coach philosophy that can impact the results that an OC gets. When he was at FSU Taggert got fired after 3 games.

Here is where KB's teams ranked nationally each year in Scoring Offense after he left BU:

2017 FAU 8th
2018 UH 5th
2019 FSU 73rd
2020 Ark 86th
2021 Ark 48th
2022 Ark 35th

TCU was ranked 9th this year in Scoring Offense.

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Considering what he had to work with at FSU and Arkansas those are pretty good numbers. Arkansas was coming out of the worst rut in program history.

The value to jumping from Arkansas now is clear, Pittman clearly is having troubles managing a locker room and can't maintain talent. Not to mention it sounds like after Briles supposedly had free reign of the offense at Arkansas it sounds like he never had as much control as they initially made it out to be. Arkansas doesn't really run a veer and shoot offense there's way too much run game and questionable trick plays in the book - if those are a Kendall Briles thing or a Sam Pittman thing is the question.

A lot can change in 17 days. https://t.co/i7tL5stFEE

— 𝙍𝙄𝙁𝙁 𝙍𝘼𝙈 (@RiffRamTCU) January 18, 2023

IvanBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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KB had great results at his first 2 stops....and then average results after that. Arkansas never got the point of melting scoreboards....but I guess they were at least showing improvement year after year.

Of course....the OC doesn't function in a vacuum. There are other pieces at play like player quality and head coach philosophy that can impact the results that an OC gets. When he was at FSU Taggert got fired after 3 games.

Here is where KB's teams ranked nationally each year in Scoring Offense after he left BU:

2017 FAU 8th
2018 UH 5th
2019 FSU 73rd
2020 Ark 86th
2021 Ark 48th
2022 Ark 35th

TCU was ranked 9th this year in Scoring Offense.

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Considering what he had to work with at FSU and Arkansas those are pretty good numbers. Arkansas was coming out of the worst rut in program history.

The value to jumping from Arkansas now is clear, Pittman clearly is having troubles managing a locker room and can't maintain talent. Not to mention it sounds like after Briles supposedly had free reign of the offense at Arkansas it sounds like he never had as much control as they initially made it out to be. Arkansas doesn't really run a veer and shoot offense there's way too much run game and questionable trick plays in the book - if those are a Kendall Briles thing or a Sam Pittman thing is the question.

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and also considering who Arkansas had to play . . .

BUBBFAN said:

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She is a headline seeker.

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Did the fake tits give it away ???

Dear Lord... we already had enough trouble beating them, and now KB will want to run it up on us every season. This hire blows my mind. I know Patterson is gone, but I never would have thought a "Briles" would end up coaching at of all schools... TCU! Ugh... he's going to wear purple. Truly tragic...

True Grit said:

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Dear Lord... we already had enough trouble beating them, and now KB will want to run it up on us every season. This hire blows my mind. I know Patterson is gone, but I never would have thought a "Briles" would end up coaching at of all schools... TCU! Ugh... he's going to wear purple. Truly tragic...

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Lebby also wanted to run it up and is 0-2 against us.

So....5 years ago all the B12 circled around us pointing their fingers and held 25% of our football revenue as they judged us from on high.

Fast forward to today and TCU has picked up Art's son and OU has picked up Art's son-in-law....both of whom were specifically implicated in the reports that were coming out at the time.

OU football: Jeff Lebby carries stain of Baylor sexual-assault scandal https://t.co/yJ3qCfatDT

— Kevin Goheen (@Mrkalman) February 25, 2022

No reason at all? As a member of Art's staff, quoted as selling "white girls" to recruits, and ardently defending AB after the findings? Those are plenty reasons to name just a few. https://t.co/8yFFDeEW4J

— Marissa (@MAWtheFROG) January 15, 2023

Because no one seems to remember:

The letter, dated May 23, 2017, reads:
"Dear Coach Briles,
"We read with interest your letter to the Baylor Nation dated March 1, 2017. While certain information has been revealed in the context of pending litigation, your letter underscores the fact we have been unable to share all of the information developed during the investigation into Baylor's response to the Department of Education guidance issues under Title IX of the United States Education Code.
"We appreciate the spirit and tone of your message to the Baylor community in support of the University's efforts to address sexual violence and the ongoing healing process within your community. As Baylor University continues to respond to various investigations and lawsuits, your continued cooperation in sharing honestly and completely the facts of which you are aware will be of great importance.
"As you speak with others regarding these issues, you can be assured you may make certain statements without fear of contradiction from Baylor based on the information currently known to us. In particular, at this time we are unaware of any situation where you personally had contact with anyone who directly reported to you being the victim of sexual assault or that you directly discouraged the victim of an alleged sexual assault from reporting to law enforcement or University officials. Nor are we aware of any situation where you played a student athlete who had been found responsible for sexual assault.
"We wish you the very best in your future endeavors.
"Very truly yours,
"Christopher W. Holmes
"General Counsel.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2017/09/01/baylor-art-briles-letter/627224001/

Titus and Titus said:

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Because no one seems to remember:

The letter, dated May 23, 2017, reads:
"Dear Coach Briles,
"We read with interest your letter to the Baylor Nation dated March 1, 2017. While certain information has been revealed in the context of pending litigation, your letter underscores the fact we have been unable to share all of the information developed during the investigation into Baylor's response to the Department of Education guidance issues under Title IX of the United States Education Code.
"We appreciate the spirit and tone of your message to the Baylor community in support of the University's efforts to address sexual violence and the ongoing healing process within your community. As Baylor University continues to respond to various investigations and lawsuits, your continued cooperation in sharing honestly and completely the facts of which you are aware will be of great importance.
"As you speak with others regarding these issues, you can be assured you may make certain statements without fear of contradiction from Baylor based on the information currently known to us. In particular, at this time we are unaware of any situation where you personally had contact with anyone who directly reported to you being the victim of sexual assault or that you directly discouraged the victim of an alleged sexual assault from reporting to law enforcement or University officials. Nor are we aware of any situation where you played a student athlete who had been found responsible for sexual assault.
"We wish you the very best in your future endeavors.
"Very truly yours,
"Christopher W. Holmes
"General Counsel.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2017/09/01/baylor-art-briles-letter/627224001/

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If anyone thought that cleared CAB's name he would have gotten a job 3 years ago. That is just carefully worded legal speak that allows them to thread the needle....that is not a full throated exoneration.

For the record....I'm not opposed to these guys getting jobs. My only issue is seeing a team like TCU whose fan base has raked us over the coals be one of the teams to pick them up. All of a sudden their fans are all about second chances. Can you even begin to imagine the uproar if BU was hiring KB?

Its just an uproar. It passes and no one cares.

Social Media will not accept any information about Art that contradicts the narrative that has been built against Art. Our own BOR had a huge influence in destroying Art's career.

I'm happy Sonny has the balls to hire him. KB has had 3 or 4 high profile jobs since he left Baylor without the hint of a scandal as far as I know.

As an aside, I have TCU friends who are also current friends of Art Briles. I can guarantee they are just fine with this hire.

Briles, 40, has been the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach the past three seasons at Arkansas, which experienced an offensive upheaval under Briles. The Hogs finished 15th nationally in total offense this past season while averaging 32.5 points per game and 30.9 points in 2021, which was the most at Arkansas since the 2015 season. The Hogs averaged just 21.4 points per game in 2019, the year before Briles arrived.

Arkansas was seventh nationally in rushing offense in 2022 (236.5 yards per game). The Hogs' 3,075 rushing yards were their most since the 2003 season. Briles also enhanced Arkansas' passing game and its balance on offense. The Hogs were one of three FBS teams in 2022 (Ole Miss and UCLA the others) to average more than 230 rushing yards and 230 passing yards per game.

35th?

ESPN reported 15th.

Mac Engel: Sonny Dykes hiring Kendal Briles is right decision for TCU

Read more at: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article271306102.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article271306102.html?utm_medium=social

Golden Helmet said:

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35th?

ESPN reported 15th.

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You are looking at Total Offense (yards per game) where they were ranked 15th.

I was talking about Scoring Offense (points per game) where they were 35th.

They were ranked 70th in Red Zone Conversions. So looks like they were racking up the yards but maybe breaking down in the Red Zone.

Ok

So they were 15th.

Got it.

How desperate do they have to be? This is pure entertainment

Watching them next season will be interesting. They won't win as much and a lot of these folks will decide it's Briles fault and the luster on Dykes will tarnish as well.

Dear God, I want to beat tcu more than ever now.

Good for KB. We ducked ourselves so deal with it. Maybe we will start taking beating them as serious as they take beating us now. We have loss to some of there worse teams and fail to beat them with our beat teams. Which is why so many of y'all run around talking about 61-58. **** is just lame now

My thoughts exactly.

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..

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I think Kendall is going to TCU to take Baylor down a notch. I kinda think he will. This is bad for Baylor.

BellCountyBear said:

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Dear God, I want to beat tcu more than ever now.

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Opposite

Can't stand Mac Engel from the Fort Worth STARTLEgram

JP1037 said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..

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I think Kendall is going to TCU to take Baylor down a notch. I kinda think he will. This is bad for Baylor.

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Doubtful.

JP1037 said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..

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I think Kendall is going to TCU to take Baylor down a notch. I kinda think he will. This is bad for Baylor.

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Lol. I am sure that is exactly why he left an SEC program to coach at a small, private school. $$$… cough cough…$$$. He just wants to put Baylor down a notch. You can't be serious…

baylorguy09 said:

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JP1037 said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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Yeah, I could rehab the Art.

Kendal wouldn't be worth the investment.

But stop and remember he's leaving Arkansas for a reason, and it ain't because he was gonna get promoted..

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I think Kendall is going to TCU to take Baylor down a notch. I kinda think he will. This is bad for Baylor.

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Lol. I am sure that is exactly why he left an SEC program to coach at a small, private school. $$$… cough cough…$$$. He just wants to put Baylor down a notch. You can't be serious…

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I'm not saying it is the only reason. But it's a reason. We effed his Dad over. That doesn't just go away.

We currently have a perfect record against Briles offensive assistants at Baylor who are now OCs.