BaylorLit 01 said:

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They have more NIL $.. Baylor is light years behind on that front. And yes, Ft Worth > Waco

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I'm confused. Do recruiting pick schools based on NIL, cities, or uniforms? Last month it was just unis.

I'd only bring up Capital One Cup rankings (I didn't even know that was it's name now) if I was losing an argument. And I'd still be embarrassed.

Reverend said:

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I'd only bring up Capital One Cup rankings (I didn't even know that was it's name now) if I was losing an argument. And I'd still be embarrassed.

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Yeah beating us in football, going Nat Championship Game, going to College World Series, went further in Final 4, and being ranked higher in all sports trophy is losing the argument?

It is delusional fans like you that keep BU mediocre. Keep telling yourself how much better BU is. You should really go to pay site, you will fit right in.

A little bit of an overreaction there. Maybe you ought to go to the TCU site. You'd fit right in.

parch said:

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Ghostrider said:

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IowaBear said:

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Basketball? No
Football and Baseball yes, TCU is Baylor's daddy on the gridiron and diamond nowadays

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True, we have a slight edge in basketball, even though we went 1 and 1 against them last year and it took a big comeback for the win. It will be interesting to see what happens this year. Really hope our young guys step up.

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A "slight edge?" Bro we're two years off a natty and have talent over them at almost every position. We're crushing TCU in basketball. They've gotten better but still have a long ass ways to go to even sniff our backside.

That's essentially the reverse in baseball. I guess it's some consolation that baseball doesn't contribute, at all, to the economic wellbeing and thus advancement of an athletic department outside their own program. LSU is pretty much the only program nationwide to consistently turn a profit more than pennies year over year consistently, and even then they only clear about the $1 million mark.

Football depends on how you look at it. We have more trophies since they joined the Big 12, they have our number in head to head, we're pretty even otherwise Big 12-wise.

Sports are cyclical. Two years ago we won Big 12/Sugar Bowl and MBB national titles within 12 months of each other. This too shall pass. Embarrassing thread title in any case.

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We'll be 0-2 against them in basketball regular season next year.

0-3 if you count football

2-3 if you count wbb

Fre3dombear said:

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parch said:

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Ghostrider said:

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IowaBear said:

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Basketball? No
Football and Baseball yes, TCU is Baylor's daddy on the gridiron and diamond nowadays

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True, we have a slight edge in basketball, even though we went 1 and 1 against them last year and it took a big comeback for the win. It will be interesting to see what happens this year. Really hope our young guys step up.

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A "slight edge?" Bro we're two years off a natty and have talent over them at almost every position. We're crushing TCU in basketball. They've gotten better but still have a long ass ways to go to even sniff our backside.

That's essentially the reverse in baseball. I guess it's some consolation that baseball doesn't contribute, at all, to the economic wellbeing and thus advancement of an athletic department outside their own program. LSU is pretty much the only program nationwide to consistently turn a profit more than pennies year over year consistently, and even then they only clear about the $1 million mark.

Football depends on how you look at it. We have more trophies since they joined the Big 12, they have our number in head to head, we're pretty even otherwise Big 12-wise.

Sports are cyclical. Two years ago we won Big 12/Sugar Bowl and MBB national titles within 12 months of each other. This too shall pass. Embarrassing thread title in any case.

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We'll be 0-2 against them in basketball regular season next year.

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Highly, highly doubtful.

Big advantage: TCU has a Pro TCU BOR

Reverend said:

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A little bit of an overreaction there. Maybe you ought to go to the TCU site. You'd fit right in.

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Yeah, rather than discuss how BU can get better and compete, tell those that are calling it out to change allegiances. BU has such a history of Athletic success and reputation, how dare anyone call it out.

OK... officially a troll.

Well played.

TCU will beat us in football as long as we still have Blake Shapen and Briles is going to light us up. If Sawyer Robertson gets the nod we have a small chance.

We have a long way to go in baseball.

Give me 2-0 or 3-0 if we play them in the big 12 tournament in MBB and 2-0 or 3-0 in WBB.

Most importantly we will crush them in acro tumbling and equestrian. I care just almost as much about these sports as baseball.

Capital One list is compiled by Jennifer Garner.

JP1037 said:

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OK... officially a troll.

Well played.

TCU will beat us in football as long as we still have Blake Shapen and Briles is going to light us up. If Sawyer Robertson gets the nod we have a small chance.

We have a long way to go in baseball.

Give me 2-0 or 3-0 if we play them in the big 12 tournament in MBB and 2-0 or 3-0 in WBB.

Most importantly we will crush them in acro tumbling and equestrian. I care just almost as much about these sports as baseball.

Capital One list is compiled by Jennifer Garner.

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Ok, so it is in your evaluations and Rankings tha BU is doing as good as TCU. Please tell us you let others evaluate your retirement investments. If not for you, your family. : )

I'd make a significant wager against those 0-2 and 0-3 predictions.

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Within the past year (in the sports that count):

Football- they were better
MBB- we were better
WBB- we were better (a lot)
Baseball- they were better (a lot)

I don't know about track, softball, volleyball, golf, etc.

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and they were far superior in football. Basketball was fairly close.

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A little bit of an overreaction there. Maybe you ought to go to the TCU site. You'd fit right in.

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because he doesn't wear green glasses and bury his head in the sand?

Nope. Just responding to him talking smack.

All time, all sports, big 12 championships

Bu 48
Tcu 12

Yep, they killing us, not!

What is it since TCUs arrival in the B12? I'm sure BU still leads but anything before their arrival isn't really a fair comparison

TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question. Baseball is about as far apart as 2 teams can be.

We have had a great run in basketball but they have turned into a very competitive team. The gap isn't as big as it once was.

Will Amanda defeat tcu before he leaves Baylor?

IowaBear said:

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What is it since TCUs arrival in the B12? I'm sure BU still leads but anything before their arrival isn't really a fair comparison

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In football and baseball they have kicked out butts since they joined the Big 12

In basketball we own them like 16-4 or something like that

TCU has actually been pretty on/off in football the last several years. They were pretty good last year, but they beat an overrated Michigan team and then got exposed in the actual championship game. They are also spending money at an unsustainable rate like no other.

Just watched 2014. BU vs TCU game. Great great game. Wow. Still get goose bumps.

BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

chriscbear said:

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Just watched 2014. BU vs TCU game. Great great game. Wow. Still get goose bumps.

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Greatest top 10 comeback / collapse in history of college football

Baylor

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

Had our QB1 just given his all on a run or tossed it to a wide open sims, baylor could have saved tcu of that forever shame

Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

BBWCBear said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

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Getting considered for the CFPis fine because the Big 12 champ just has to be a top 6 conference champion, but if of course doesn't bode well for the Big 12's chances at a national title - however - that's been the case for awhile now and the losses of UT/OU further contribute to that.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

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Getting considered for the CFPis fine because the Big 12 champ just has to be a top 6 conference champion, but if of course doesn't bode well for the Big 12's chances at a national title - however - that's been the case for awhile now and the losses of UT/OU further contribute to that.

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Yeah, watch. The SEC and B10 will make arguments that the SEC deserves 3 each, we will be fighting for last 2!

They own us as of late but that game will forever stick in their craw.

Positive Bear said:

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They own us as of late but that game will forever stick in their craw.

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No doubt. In theory baylor kept tcu out of the playoff / title game twice (2011 (very debatable) and 2014 100% and they even were behind us in the final pre playoff ranking as they should have been) and should have last year but we rathered what happened to them

FLBear5630 said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

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Getting considered for the CFPis fine because the Big 12 champ just has to be a top 6 conference champion, but if of course doesn't bode well for the Big 12's chances at a national title - however - that's been the case for awhile now and the losses of UT/OU further contribute to that.

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Yeah, watch. The SEC and B10 will make arguments that the SEC deserves 3 each, we will be fighting for last 2!

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The Big 12 just needs to get it done on the field. For the sake of the 2024 schedule (first year of expanded CFP), the Big 12 has P5 games against Utah (x2), Oregon, Arkansas (x2), Illinois, Pitt (x2), Penn State, Iowa, Arizona, Stanford and Florida. In the grand scheme of FBS football, that's not necessarily murderer's row, and so the Big 12 must win the majority of those games if it wants to be taken seriously when it comes to CFP selection opportunities.

Fre3dombear said:

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chriscbear said:

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Just watched 2014. BU vs TCU game. Great great game. Wow. Still get goose bumps.

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Greatest top 10 comeback / collapse in history of college football

Baylor

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Until the Cotton Bowl that same year.

FLBear5630 said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

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Getting considered for the CFPis fine because the Big 12 champ just has to be a top 6 conference champion, but if of course doesn't bode well for the Big 12's chances at a national title - however - that's been the case for awhile now and the losses of UT/OU further contribute to that.

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Yeah, watch. The SEC and B10 will make arguments that the SEC deserves 3 each, we will be fighting for last 2!

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Also, not that it's a fine science, but as for as BU is concerned, our recruiting/commits are generally considerations of G5 or lesser quality P5 programs… no history of any "real" success. Obviously, we can have winning records with them, but I'm convinced the selection committee has to figure that aspect along with all the other factors. My point being as the SEC & B1G move forward with the "new" big power conferences gathering the finest athletes our "Hoosiers " moments becomes less likely more and more.

bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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chriscbear said:

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Just watched 2014. BU vs TCU game. Great great game. Wow. Still get goose bumps.

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Greatest top 10 comeback / collapse in history of college football

Baylor

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Until the Cotton Bowl that same year.

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Yeah. The loss of Montgomery really hurt that day

TCU even has Baylor beat in Drag Queen Class, but I'm sure Linda will change that soon!

https://texasscorecard.com/state/tcus-drag-queen-class-has-taken-place-since-2021/

Aberzombie1892 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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TCU is our daddy in football. There really is no question.

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Currently yes, but there have been periods of dominance back & forth by both sides since this rivalry started; Tcu's recent edge of only 5 games has come in the last 8 years.
Starting back at the beginning Baylor dominated the Frogs, with Tcu not getting their 1st win until the 11th game played. Then the tide turned in the Frogs favor for some years before the Bears got back to their winning ways & took 7 out of 8 games, followed a few years later by a 5-1-1 run. The late 50's into the 60's saw good times for Tcu while BU started to sink under a few diff coaches before hitting rock bottom under Bill Beall. Grant Teaff's arrival in Waco turned the rivalry heavily back to the Bears side as the Legendary coach went 16-5 vs the Frogs. Shortly after, the SWC split and the rivalry came to a screeching halt. Since its revival in 2006, Tcu has been the pretty princess with an 11-4 record vs good ole BU. History tells me the Bears will soon return to dominance as Tcu's recent streak (& luck) has just about run out.

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They do have to wear 66-7 or whatever it was forever. The ultimate sister kisser

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That… plus it doesn't bode well for the Big12 going forward being considered for the Playoffs, even with the new format.

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Getting considered for the CFPis fine because the Big 12 champ just has to be a top 6 conference champion, but if of course doesn't bode well for the Big 12's chances at a national title - however - that's been the case for awhile now and the losses of UT/OU further contribute to that.

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Yeah, watch. The SEC and B10 will make arguments that the SEC deserves 3 each, we will be fighting for last 2!

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The Big 12 just needs to get it done on the field. For the sake of the 2024 schedule (first year of expanded CFP), the Big 12 has P5 games against Utah (x2), Oregon, Arkansas (x2), Illinois, Pitt (x2), Penn State, Iowa, Arizona, Stanford and Florida. In the grand scheme of FBS football, that's not necessarily murderer's row, and so the Big 12 must win the majority of those games if it wants to be taken seriously when it comes to CFP selection opportunities.

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With a ceiling of mid 4 star players. Gonna be a tough order to win consistently against higher rated players. It is not the starters, it is the depth that is the issue. A 2021 can happen, but will it matter or be like Boise St in thecsay?