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Gameday Thread: Baylor welcomes No. 12 Utah to McLane

September 8, 2023
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Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. Utah


The Run Down

BAYLOR UTAH
Head Coach Dave Aranda Kyle Whittingham
Team Record 0-1 1-0
Leading Passer Blake Shapen, QB
21/31, 303 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Bryson Barnes, QB
12/18, 159 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Leading Rusher Dominic Richardson, RB
16 carries, 79 yards, 0 TDs
Nate Johnson, QB
6 carries, 45 yards, 1 TD
Leading Receiver Drake Dabney, TE
6 receptions, 101 yards, 2 TDs
Money Parks, WR
1 reception, 70 yards, 1 TD
Leading Tackler Four Players with 5 Tackles Cole Bishop, S
11 tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF

 

 

 

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Gameday Thread: Baylor welcomes No. 12 Utah to McLane

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bear2be2
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Bearwhiz said:

No qb runs. Terrible terrible terrible
QB runs don't typically work against a stacked box. Utah loaded the box and dared us to beat them through the air. They knew we couldn't. We knew we couldn't.
MarcelloSwisher
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He didn't give us any of that. He won with Rhule's recruits and has been all downhill since they graduated.
Killing Floor
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Overall a big improvement. Linebacker play was a step up as was secondary.

O line was a lot better considering they were traffic cones last week

Dumb penalties still a problem. And I think Morgan Scalley figured out our 1 play at halftime. Backyard right sweep worked a few times but it can't work 10 times.
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Killing Floor said:

Overall a big improvement. Linebacker play was a step up as was secondary.

O line was a lot better considering they were traffic cones last week

Dumb penalties still a problem. And I think Morgan Scalley figured out our 1 play at halftime. Backyard right sweep worked a few times but it can't work 10 times.
There were a lot of encouraging signs today, especially on defense. It's just deflating to keep losing these types of games. Moral victories don't really mean much at this point. We need real ones.
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MarcelloSwisher said:

He didn't give us any of that. He won with Rhule's recruits and has been all downhill since they graduated.


I know that's the new narrative on here after trashing CMR all these years, but he did coach those players to those wins. Didn't just stand there. Doesn't mean I like the trajectory it's going at the current moment however.
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UTSA shuts out the mighty Tx St offense in Q1.

Tx st 0
UTSA 3
BearTruth13
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We haven't had a great QB since Seth Russell. That was over 7 years ago.

Since then, we've had Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield, Will Grier, Brock Purdy, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Max Duggan, and Quinn Ewers come through Big 12 teams.

OSU, OU, West Virginia, Iowa State, UT, TCU have all had better luck at QB than we have.
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Kendall Briles as HC?
Russell Gym
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JTM said:

Kendall Briles as HC?

He can bring back Raw and Lube.
Fre3dombear
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Can't believe anyone trashing Sawyer on this loss. He played way better than most anyone would expect if utahs D is truly even close to what we're supposed to believe.

Would have been Bonus if SB had somehow led us to victory but it's not even like Briles plugging in a new guy to steer the lambo.
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If Baylor had gotten the QB play this game that they had in the 1st game, they would've won easily.
boognish_bear
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Fre3dombear said:

Can't believe anyone trashing Sawyer on this loss. He played way better than most anyone would expect if utahs D is truly even close to what we're supposed to believe.

Would have been Bonus if SB had somehow led us to victory but it's not even like Briles plugging in a new guy to steer the lambo.


I definitely don't want to trash a kid in his first start.... but his numbers were not good.

Hopefully with LIU next week he can get some confidence back before Texas.
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TomW said:

NYBear said:

1-3 is unacceptable though.
No assurances against Texas of course, but Texas week can be a throw records out. I can still say Aranda can design a defense and doesn't appear he's lost players. Can our offense score confidently against Texas? Will Shapen be back? Will that be good or bad? And yes 1-3 isn't acceptable. What happened at Texas State should resonate in the back of these players mind for as long as each plays for Baylor. Never allow that to happen again. Be ready and compete every week. It was winnable. It should have been won. Hope Texas State as an amazing season going forward, but still shouldn't have happened.
I appreciate that.

But it was not winnable - our team was gassed the whole second half and the fourth quarter it was embarrassing. This team, this staff, simply do not have what it takes. And it's visible within the fanbase based on the attendance/outcome today.

Aranda is a great dude, but our football program is not a YMCA.
When I played football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something.
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boognish_bear said:

Fre3dombear said:

Can't believe anyone trashing Sawyer on this loss. He played way better than most anyone would expect if utahs D is truly even close to what we're supposed to believe.

Would have been Bonus if SB had somehow led us to victory but it's not even like Briles plugging in a new guy to steer the lambo.


I definitely don't want to trash a kid in his first start.... but his numbers were not good.

Hopefully with LIU next week he can get some confidence back before Texas.


Yep. Not a performance he'd be proud of in hind sight but probably what was expected
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boognish_bear said:

Fre3dombear said:

Can't believe anyone trashing Sawyer on this loss. He played way better than most anyone would expect if utahs D is truly even close to what we're supposed to believe.

Would have been Bonus if SB had somehow led us to victory but it's not even like Briles plugging in a new guy to steer the lambo.


I definitely don't want to trash a kid in his first start.... but his numbers were not good.

Hopefully with LIU next week he can get some confidence back before Texas.
Not only were his numbers bad, his decision-making gave Utah 10 points -- 10 points they likely wouldn't have scored if they had been forced to drive the length of the field against our defense.

I'm a Sawyer Robertson fan. I think he'll learn, grow and get better. But he was atrocious in the second half today. He throttled our offense.
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BearTruth13 said:

We haven't had a great QB since Seth Russell. That was over 7 years ago.

Since then, we've had Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield, Will Grier, Brock Purdy, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Max Duggan, and Quinn Ewers come through Big 12 teams.

OSU, OU, West Virginia, Iowa State, UT, TCU have all had better luck at QB than we have.


We did win 12 with one. Ran him off.
Killing Floor
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Don't forget K State, Skylar is on the Dolphins. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
bear2be2
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Bear8084
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Mitch Blood Green said:

BearTruth13 said:

We haven't had a great QB since Seth Russell. That was over 7 years ago.

Since then, we've had Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield, Will Grier, Brock Purdy, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Max Duggan, and Quinn Ewers come through Big 12 teams.

OSU, OU, West Virginia, Iowa State, UT, TCU have all had better luck at QB than we have.


We did win 12 with one. Ran him off.


True that and I like Shapen. Really could've used Bohanon today.
Killing Floor
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Never saw the sense in that. Unless "someone" told him he wasn't going to start. Why else would he have transferred?
Aliceinbubbleland
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Time of possession. Utah 36:17. Baylor 23:43
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
MarcelloSwisher
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Stop it. I love Gerry but there's a reason why he isn't even starting for South Florida.
BearTruth13
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Mitch Blood Green said:

BearTruth13 said:

We haven't had a great QB since Seth Russell. That was over 7 years ago.

Since then, we've had Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield, Will Grier, Brock Purdy, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Max Duggan, and Quinn Ewers come through Big 12 teams.

OSU, OU, West Virginia, Iowa State, UT, TCU have all had better luck at QB than we have.


We did win 12 with one. Ran him off.


The argument wasn't should we have kept Bohanon. The point was that we haven't had a great QB in 7+ years. Bohanon wasn't a great QB or even good QB. He didn't turn the ball over and could run a little. We didn't lose games because of him. But he wasn't good. Hence why he didn't get another P5 call after us.
bear2be2
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MarcelloSwisher said:

Stop it. I love Gerry but there's a reason why he isn't even starting for South Florida.
Because he's still out with a labrum injury. He hasn't been cleared to play.
FLBear5630
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MarcelloSwisher said:

Any other football coach would be rightfully ripping that ref a new ass for that no call. Not Dave Aranda.

When are we going to accept the fact that this guy doesn't care & it rubs off on the team. He seems like a great guy & I hope he lives his absolute best life as a defensive analyst for Nick Saban & Alabama next year but it's really time for us to move on.

Not everyone is meant to be a head coach & that's okay.


Refs have feelings. Maybe if he meditates on the call, he can get it right next week for UT
Killing Floor
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It's no doubt Gerry Bo is not a top QB. My point is he was more capable under pressure and we won with him and many times because of him. He's better than Shapin when it counted.
One could argue that maybe he was better for Rhule's scheme. Who knows. But the w/L record is out there.
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FLBear5630 said:

MarcelloSwisher said:

Any other football coach would be rightfully ripping that ref a new ass for that no call. Not Dave Aranda.

When are we going to accept the fact that this guy doesn't care & it rubs off on the team. He seems like a great guy & I hope he lives his absolute best life as a defensive analyst for Nick Saban & Alabama next year but it's really time for us to move on.

Not everyone is meant to be a head coach & that's okay.


Refs have feelings. Maybe if he meditates on the call, he can get it right next week for UT


Person over Good calls
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canoso said:

A heartbreaking loss. First time that's ever happened in BU football history.
A heartbreaking loss is the first time that ever happened in BU football history? Is that what you meant? There are plenty of heartbreaking losses
BaylorFan12345
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The performance is much better than last week but it is very disappointing because that was a very winnable game
FLBear5630
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Killing Floor said:

It's no doubt Gerry Bo is not a top QB. My point is he was more capable under pressure and we won with him and many times because of him. He's better than Shapin when it counted.
One could argue that maybe he was better for Rhule's scheme. Who knows. But the w/L record is out there.


GB would be just as bad. He excelled when we could run. This team can't run like the 21 team.
BaylorLit 01
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Defense played harder but Utah's qb was awful. Good qb's will still abuse our defense. Matt Jones, Dominic Richardson and Ketron were the bright spots.
Oldbear83
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Sure wish we had the crew from the Texas-Alabama game. They have been calling DPI all night.

We coulda used that.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Killing Floor
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And the O line.
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TCU alum

historian
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Pretty blatant
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
 
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