Bear2014 said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Redbrickbear said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
Bear2014 said:
big 10 has a zero withdrawl fee? wow- theyre confident
Make absolutely no mistake here:
No one is voluntarily leaving the B1G to go anywhere else that isn't a successor to the B1G. In contrast, there are probably at least 1-2 SEC teams that would strongly consider moving to the B1G if they fully evaluated it, but the vice versa situation is not in play.
Absolutely
Plus we forget how many dead weight schools there are in the Big 10
Purdue, Indiana, northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois, Minnesota (even Iowa & Nebraska now)
Is anyone really clamoring to take these schools?
It's a bit complicated, as each program is not expected to meet the same set of requirements since media markets play a large role in the value of some programs. For example, Rutgers is in the #1 media market metropolitan area (NYC), Northwestern is in the #3 (Chicago), Maryland is in the #9 (DC), Minnesota is in the #15 (Minneapolis), etc.; and it's clear that there is value in having teams in major markets as evidenced by the NFL having two teams in Los Angeles and two teams in New York city.
Separately, the Big 12/ACC would kill for every single one of those schools - even Purdue. This is where we are.
this was the big reason for conference realignment in 2010. But in the days of streaming, the market doesnt necessarily matter. Its all about the number of eyes balls that watch the game. Maybe there are more casual watchers in minneapolis than lawrence or gainesville, but streaming takes the isolated market component out of the equation. At least, thats what i understood.
both indiana and purdue would be screwed. If you are only looking at the market schools are in.. theyre not it. nor is michigan state or iowa or nebraska.
The best counterexample to your point is that the B1G initially wanted Oregon and USC, but Fox wanted the LA market so it told the B1G to pass on Oregon in order to secure UCLA - a program without the on the field success/recruiting/viewership/etc. of Oregon. To go a step further and to be clear here, Fox didn't initially secure UCLA with the expectation that UCLA would be turning in Ohio State numbers.
Given the clear supportive evidence in play (Fox's decision making in Oregon vs. UCLA, the B1G's value despite its lack of on the field success, the B1G's previous expansion with Rutgers and Maryland, the NFL's choice to have two teams in NYC and two in LA, etc.), this forum needs to move beyond the "there's no value in markets" perspective.