Briles at McLane

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Waco1947
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ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.
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BaylorBearGuy said:

Does anyone know if Briles will be joining in the celebration festivities at the TCU game when Baylor honors the 2013 and 2014 teams?
I was kinda hoping we could get Mickey Mouse to emcee. I am sure Mickey will be busy that day. Hopefully Ron Murff, Jay Jeffrey, and Jeff Reeter will be honored former player speakers.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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coldhardtruth said:

MrGolfguy said:

Hoping the students start a "C-A-B" "C-A-B" "C-A-B" chant.




I assure you no current Baylor students will be chanting this.


My son is a freshman and he'd do it happily.
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Waco1947 said:

ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.


Agreed.
With that settled, Baylor University should have owned the mess outright and not allowed lives to be destroyed because of it. That's lives on both sides of that egregious issue. As Thee pointed out, had the university done its job responsibly, all this could have been prevented. So if a group wants to chant "CAB", it'll have no impact on BU and the press will mention it and then it will fade into the dead issue it is, no one having learned the vital issues they should have learned.
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Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.

A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

That's exactly what they did and they ruined a man's life in the process.
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Golden Helmet said:

Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.
process.


$18M is a steal to make a great coach go away in 2025. You're looking at $40M+ to make a great coach go away now. Good thing the school isn't on the hook for HC inflation.
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Waco1947 said:

ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.
There is no excusing holier-than-thou, either. Anywhere in the BU space.
Dia del DougO
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Golden Helmet said:



A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"



They wouldn't have had to sell their mothers to think about having a legitimate Title IX office in place years before as they should have.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
Waco1947
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drahthaar said:

Waco1947 said:

ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.


Agreed.
With that settled, Baylor University should have owned the mess outright and not allowed lives to be destroyed because of it. That's lives on both sides of that egregious issue. As Thee pointed out, had the university done its job responsibly, all this could have been prevented. So if a group wants to chant "CAB", it'll have no impact on BU and the press will mention it and then it will fade into the dead issue it is, no one having learned the vital issues they should have learned.
The "lives that were destroyed" were these sexual assault victims. I could care less that Briles, Starr, and Ian lives were destroyed. The victims are first and foremost in my understanding. The BOR was protecting these victims lives by not bringing their assault to the forefront. They deserve privacy and respect. So keep Briles away and his son Kendell.
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historian
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Do you care about the football players whose lives were destroyed because of gossip and false accusations?
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
drahthaar
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Waco1947 said:

drahthaar said:

Waco1947 said:

ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.


Agreed.
With that settled, Baylor University should have owned the mess outright and not allowed lives to be destroyed because of it. That's lives on both sides of that egregious issue. As Thee pointed out, had the university done its job responsibly, all this could have been prevented. So if a group wants to chant "CAB", it'll have no impact on BU and the press will mention it and then it will fade into the dead issue it is, no one having learned the vital issues they should have learned.
The "lives that were destroyed" were these sexual assault victims. I could care less that Briles, Starr, and Ian lives were destroyed. The victims are first and foremost in my understanding. The BOR was protecting these victims lives by not bringing their assault to the forefront. They deserve privacy and respect. So keep Briles away and his son Kendell.
There were a lot more lives wrecked than merely the assault victims. That's not to denigrate them: I had a daughter assaulted at BU (who did nothing) so don't even begin to lecture me about that situation.

Any Christian or anyone with a sense of rightness and justice should decry all the lives wrecked, including the life of the university.
Golden Helmet
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Says the guy who started a thread with his name after the Tech win….

Pot meet Kettle
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Waco1947 said:

drahthaar said:

Waco1947 said:

ABC BEAR said:

Waco1947 said:

Women were sexually assaulted. I can't forgive a coach for allowing it to happen or ignoring it or turning a blind eye to it. So, no Briles please. We were called rapists at every turn. Don't bring that back that shame.
Your bilge pump is working well today.
there is no excusing sexual assault.


Agreed.
With that settled, Baylor University should have owned the mess outright and not allowed lives to be destroyed because of it. That's lives on both sides of that egregious issue. As Thee pointed out, had the university done its job responsibly, all this could have been prevented. So if a group wants to chant "CAB", it'll have no impact on BU and the press will mention it and then it will fade into the dead issue it is, no one having learned the vital issues they should have learned.
The "lives that were destroyed" were these sexual assault victims. I could care less that Briles, Starr, and Ian lives were destroyed. The victims are first and foremost in my understanding. The BOR was protecting these victims lives by not bringing their assault to the forefront. They deserve privacy and respect. So keep Briles away and his son Kendell.
Is this a parody account?
PacificBear
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Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
Thee University
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PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
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PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
You left out the part where Briles dawg-drilled Baylor. Actually it was Ian, Ken & Art who served us that sandwich. They all high tailed it out of Waco.
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
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ImABearToo said:

Him attending would put the media in a tizzy. The OU game he was at last year, invited by his son in law, caused some fireworks. Might allow for some healing to have Art walk out with his teams, at the very least put that era to rest on a positive note.
They fear it will be viewed as Baylor condoning that culture, BU will not do that. They are scared to death of another scandal.
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Scared to death, that describes the spineless jellyfish that run the place perfectly. Stand up to the haters, no can do.
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Golden Helmet said:


A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

If one or more of those idiots on that board really felt that making this whole thing a public matter and throwing the football program under the bus was going to protect the image of the school, then we were (or still are) run by idiots. No, complete imbeciles.

They in fact, ruined the schools image by making the whole thing a public show, instead of handling it as an internal matter.
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Dia del DougO said:

boognish_bear said:

1. He won't be invited
2. He wouldn't accept an invitation if it was offered
I disagree on the second point.


Same.. he attended the Rice game in 2016 to watch/support his players and coaches, along with "Baylor nation" as he put it.
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DaRealBears said:

Dia del DougO said:

boognish_bear said:

1. He won't be invited
2. He wouldn't accept an invitation if it was offered
I disagree on the second point.


Same.. he attended the Rice game in 2016 to watch/support his players and coaches, along with "Baylor nation" as he put it.
And if I remember correctly he went into the locker room at some point and someone tried to make a big deal over it.
historian
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I met him and spoke with briefly. I also spoke to Shawn Oakman.
Gametime
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I wonder if he's so innocent. Why can't he find a job? No matter left or right state or left or right institution.

Just wondering
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Golden Helmet said:

Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.

A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

That's exactly what they did and they ruined a man's life in the process.

Just like politicians.
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Golden Helmet said:

Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.

A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

That's exactly what they did and they ruined a man's life in the process.
He did nothing wrong? No counter suit? Did he sue for defamation or slander? As you said, he can't get a job. Pretty much destroyed his career worth more than 18M. What was the outcome of Briles rebuttal and countersuits? I live in FL, so it was not really covered here like in Texas.
drahthaar
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FLBear5630 said:

Golden Helmet said:

Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.

A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

That's exactly what they did and they ruined a man's life in the process.
He did nothing wrong? No counter suit? Did he sue for defamation or slander? As you said, he can't get a job. Pretty much destroyed his career worth more than 18M. What was the outcome of Briles rebuttal and countersuits? I live in FL, so it was not really covered here like in Texas.


Lawyers made it go away.

Press and PR made Briles radioactive…not employable.
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drahthaar said:

FLBear5630 said:

Golden Helmet said:

Ridiculous

Being paid $18M to go away says it all.

A regent who voted not to terminate told me "that man did nothing wrong, but those in positions of power would sell their own mothers down the river to protect the image and reputation of that college"

That's exactly what they did and they ruined a man's life in the process.
He did nothing wrong? No counter suit? Did he sue for defamation or slander? As you said, he can't get a job. Pretty much destroyed his career worth more than 18M. What was the outcome of Briles rebuttal and countersuits? I live in FL, so it was not really covered here like in Texas.


Lawyers made it go away.

Press and PR made Briles radioactive…not employable.
So he was innocent, wronged, it was provable and couldn't get a day in court?

Did he win? Did he lose? Accept a payoff? What does "Lawyers made it go away" mean?

You guys are making it sound like he, the BOR (willing to tell people on this site he did nothing wrong) and the Alumni all knew he did nothing wrong but there was no recourse?

Or, was it yours and those that know's opinion he did nothing wrong? I have seen a lot of lawyers, they can' just "make things go away without both side agreeing. You guys keep bring this up? How did Briles push back when he was wronged? Like I said, we didn't get much coverage. Just know what was reported and there were prosecutions.
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BEAR 45 said:

boognish_bear said:

1. He won't be invited
2. He wouldn't accept an invitation if it was offered
Baylor invited the entire teams, not individual players. He is a part of the team, why would he need a special invitation ?


Maybe there were invites…

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Thee University said:

PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
Reality is... it's really all a moot point. Baylor will NEVER see any football success in the future except an occasional run for a conference championship. Probably alumni generation in between. Face it, Baylor has rarely done anything right. Baylor has ALWAYS been reactive instead of proactive... operating on the cheap. Best thread example is the lack of a Title IX person at a time when needed. Now, with the two big conferences, relevancy will be a struggle of any variety for Baylor. History is history, period... Baylor is and always will be Baylor. Potential future football coaches will be potential feeder candidates for better jobs. That in itself doesn't paint a great picture for what most consider potential for consistent success. One comes, has a form of success, an off they go... Baylor back to square one.
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BBWCBear said:

Thee University said:

PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
Reality is... it's really all a moot point. Baylor will NEVER see any football success in the future except an occasional run for a conference championship. Probably alumni generation in between. Face it, Baylor has rarely done anything right. Baylor has ALWAYS been reactive instead of proactive... operating on the cheap. Best thread example is the lack of a Title IX person at a time when needed. Now, with the two big conferences, relevancy will be a struggle of any variety for Baylor. History is history, period... Baylor is and always will be Baylor. Potential future football coaches will be potential feeder candidates for better jobs. That in itself doesn't paint a great picture for what most consider potential for consistent success. One comes, has a form of success, an off they go... Baylor back to square one.


Nope.
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Bear8084 said:

BBWCBear said:

Thee University said:

PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
Reality is... it's really all a moot point. Baylor will NEVER see any football success in the future except an occasional run for a conference championship. Probably alumni generation in between. Face it, Baylor has rarely done anything right. Baylor has ALWAYS been reactive instead of proactive... operating on the cheap. Best thread example is the lack of a Title IX person at a time when needed. Now, with the two big conferences, relevancy will be a struggle of any variety for Baylor. History is history, period... Baylor is and always will be Baylor. Potential future football coaches will be potential feeder candidates for better jobs. That in itself doesn't paint a great picture for what most consider potential for consistent success. One comes, has a form of success, an off they go... Baylor back to square one.
Nope.
That's the sad-sack #CAB rallying cry.

Never mind that the "We'll never win big without Art" nonsense has already been proven wrong by both of his direct successors.
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bear2be2 said:

Bear8084 said:

BBWCBear said:

Thee University said:

PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
Reality is... it's really all a moot point. Baylor will NEVER see any football success in the future except an occasional run for a conference championship. Probably alumni generation in between. Face it, Baylor has rarely done anything right. Baylor has ALWAYS been reactive instead of proactive... operating on the cheap. Best thread example is the lack of a Title IX person at a time when needed. Now, with the two big conferences, relevancy will be a struggle of any variety for Baylor. History is history, period... Baylor is and always will be Baylor. Potential future football coaches will be potential feeder candidates for better jobs. That in itself doesn't paint a great picture for what most consider potential for consistent success. One comes, has a form of success, an off they go... Baylor back to square one.
Nope.
That's the sad-sack #CAB rallying cry.

Never mind that the "We'll never win big without Art" nonsense has already been proven wrong by both of his direct successors.


Agreed. 2019 and 2021 must've been hard for him.
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Bear8084 said:

bear2be2 said:

Bear8084 said:

BBWCBear said:

Thee University said:

PacificBear said:

Baylor BOR failed. They Fvked Briles. But they fvked Baylor even harder.
3,075 days and in reality you guys are STILL fvking yourselves and each other. You must like it. Are you over a barrel? A cedar log? Grabbing your ankles? Good grief!

It's a sickness I tell you. You guys need to hold a convention because you need help. Maybe an intervention.
Reality is... it's really all a moot point. Baylor will NEVER see any football success in the future except an occasional run for a conference championship. Probably alumni generation in between. Face it, Baylor has rarely done anything right. Baylor has ALWAYS been reactive instead of proactive... operating on the cheap. Best thread example is the lack of a Title IX person at a time when needed. Now, with the two big conferences, relevancy will be a struggle of any variety for Baylor. History is history, period... Baylor is and always will be Baylor. Potential future football coaches will be potential feeder candidates for better jobs. That in itself doesn't paint a great picture for what most consider potential for consistent success. One comes, has a form of success, an off they go... Baylor back to square one.
Nope.
That's the sad-sack #CAB rallying cry.

Never mind that the "We'll never win big without Art" nonsense has already been proven wrong by both of his direct successors.


Agreed. 2019 and 2021 must've been hard for him.
The landscape is completely different today.
PartyBear
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I do not believe I have ever heard anyone say nor have I seen anyone post on a Baylor site that Baylor can only win with Briles as HC.
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Maybe so, Does Platt work for Baylor ? Did Diane send an invitation or a message ? The only way to rundown ex=players is through the Lettermans association and the players themselves. Baylor had to make a conscious effort to make sure the coaches were not included.
 
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