We have got to get this game permanently scheduled for rivalry week. They are definitely are biggest rival.

No

Just because we're their rival doesn't mean they're our rival.

OsoCoreyell said:

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Just because we're their rival doesn't mean they're our rival.

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They are.

Apologies ... was pretty sure this is our annual rivalry game?!?

To everybody their own opinion. I just as well not play them every year like we will be doing with Tech.

Are they or are they not rivals?

guadalupeoso said:

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They are our rivals and I do not know why some Baylor fans insist that they not be. Rivalries are built on mutual hate between similar programs. TCU is literally our foil. UT was never our rival. A&M is a rival, but we don't get to play them anymore. TCU is our longest played rivalry and if we would lean into it, it would be a boon for both teams to have such a rivalry on the schedule.

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I agree 100%. This should be our last game of every season. I really wish the Big 12 would do rivalry week like the other conferences do.

Would this help us take the game as seriously as they do and stop generally getting our ass kicked?

I feel like they are our main rivals by default. Growing up in Houston, I literally never heard about TCU. Couldn't have told you that they were located in Fort Worth. Couldn't have told you hardly anything about them. In my mind, A&M and UT were much bigger rivals. They really didn't seem to come to my attention until 2010 when I was a freshman and they treated our team so poorly at their stadium and acted like it was their Super Bowl.

Robert Wilson said:

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Would this help us take the game as seriously as they do and stop generally getting our ass kicked?

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I really don't think Dykes has a personal vendetta against us. Patterson hated Briles, and then TCU ironically hired a couple of Briles' buddies/family members that hate us. Once that crew is gone, I think the vitriol from their side is going to die down a bit.

Jorkel said:

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Are they or are they not rivals?

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It depends on who you ask. To me its not a natural rivalry. They view us way more as a rival than we view them. When I was at Baylor (mid 80s to 90) A&M was our rival (to us). Also not a natural rivalry as they view UT as their rival, while UT views OU as their rival.

Daveisabovereproach said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Would this help us take the game as seriously as they do and stop generally getting our ass kicked?

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I really don't think Dykes has a personal vendetta against us. Patterson hated Briles, and then TCU ironically hired a couple of Briles' buddies/family members that hate us. Once that crew is gone, I think the vitriol from their side is going to die down a bit.

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I just think we need to learn to meet it.

To me aggy was always our main rival and the game I wanted to win the most. I guess since there is no more Battle of the Brazos then the frogs are our rival now.

Bluebonnet is stupid, it makes our supposed rivalry with TCU seem manufactured. It's as lame as the Texas Shootout with Texas Tech, another astroturfed rivalry that literally no one cared about.

Agree the Baylor / TCU game should be deemed a rivalry game. There is a lot of modern-day animosity between the two programs not to mention that it would be great publicity for both schools on the largely hyped rivalry weekend. Would also be good pub for the Big 12. Beyond that, of the remaining Big 12 schools, both schools were the oldest members of the SWC and have played each other 120 times dating back to the 1800's. Both are small private schools with TCU at one time being located in Waco. The history is real and amazing. It isn't contrived. This should happen.

TCU was not a huge rival of ours in the SWC.

Their vitriol comes from the fact that we made the B12 while they got left behind.

Then, after decades in the wilderness (41 years between bowl wins from 1957-1998, zero outright SWC Titles in that span) they caught an infusion with LT and company in '98 and, to their credit, have maintained mostly winning seasons since. Plenty of memorable games with them since 2011.

OsoCoreyell said:

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Just because we're their rival doesn't mean they're our rival.

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they 100% are our rival. Why would you think otherwise

The idea that they aren't our rival is exactly why they have owned our ass. They circle us every year. They define their szn by winning or losing that game. We need to not only match the hate but exceed it!

There's a reason the big 12 made it a protected game and ee will play ever year

Still remember Rhule's comments after beating TCU in 2019 ---his third year with the program ---- that he had no idea this was a rivalry and he wished someone had told him. TCU fans and students were cussing the heck out of him and throwing things prompting him to comment.

Big12Bear said:

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Still remember Rhule's comments after beating TCU in 2019 ---his third year with the program ---- that he had no idea this was a rivalry and he wished someone had told him. TCU fans and students were cussing the heck out of him and throwing things prompting him to comment.

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he didn't realize it after our players got in a fight during the game in 2017?

You'd thought that would've been a sign. 2017 was really chippy the entire game too.

CaliBear00 said:

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Bluebonnet is stupid, it makes our supposed rivalry with TCU seem manufactured. It's a a lame as the Texas Shootout with Texas Tech, another astroturfed rivalry that literally no one cared about.

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Though the name "BU-TT Bowl" had/has a certain panache.

If we're being honest, Baylor/TCU really didn't become a heated rivalry until about 15 years ago.

Until then, beating TCU didn't really matter much.

The teams that always received the most hate and animosity were the Aggies and the Horns.

And in my opinion, after A&M left, the rivalry with Texas began to really get serious - on both sides. Especially in football and basketball.

While they won't admit it, Texas's disdain for Baylor began to take on a life of its own around that time. Perhaps to levels similar to when they battled Aggie every year. And the feeling was mutual.

Had the SEC drama not kicked in recently, I feel Baylor/UT would have become similar to the Duke/UNC rivalry (Big State School versus the Private School right down the road).

Bragging rights against TCU are one thing, but I think a majority on here enjoyed having "Scoreboard" on the Horns much more.

In fact, the 2014 beatdown we gave the Horns in DKR might have been one of the most enjoyable victories during that Back-to-Back championship run.