boognish_bear said:

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North Texas has committed to Oklahoma State.

— gomeangreen.com (@gomeangreen) January 5, 2026

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Could have happened to us instead, but noooooo....

Sean Thompkins to UNC. Example of why Baylor is no longer a credible football program. Unfortunately

Youre a clown said:

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Aaron Donald would have a lot more than three tackles for loss through 12 games

I fully expect us to take another Blake Shapen type quarterback through the portal and see certain posters/staff on the premium board talk him up as the next Drew brees. I might renew my subscription for a month just for the chuckles

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I am sure they are hyping up Washington to be the next Aaron Donald as we speakk...

??? Just signed a P from Universidad de Cabron. Mxo City.

OK.

Will post more details uncts they are available.

D!

- UF

{ sipping coffee }

Bobsyouruncle said:

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We have to play at Arizona State, at BYU, at Houston, at Kansas, at UCF, and get Colorado, Tech, TCU, and ISU at home.

Every one of those teams is going to attempt to run the ball down our throat. Kansas just got Kotelnicki back from PSU.

We need DUDES on the DL.

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Yes we do. And sadly, this scrub could very well end up being a starter here when they would be on special teams/reserve on competitive teams.

BaylorHistory said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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Not really.

They are asking for patience, but understand we are missing on a bunch of targets. It is full fledged panic on most boards.

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What's the point of the panic? Next year was always a punt after Mack was let go. We'll get a new staff and 50+ new guys for 2027.

So, we'll be really bad next year, big deal, been there done that. The panic should set in if we're still not spending to be #5 or 6 in the B12 by 2027 or 2028. If we're like 11th or 12th then we probably are just going to be bad for the foreseeable future.

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The problem is that this lost season will gut the program of the last remaining talent that we have here. No credible coach will want to come here unless our new AD can pay a king's ransom.

If our roster is going to be gutted either way, why not just hire someone else this coming season?

Why say "we are keeping Aranda for roster stability?"

Danielsjackson114 said:

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If our roster is going to be gutted either way, why not just hire someone else this coming season?

Why say "we are keeping Aranda for roster stability?"

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I completely agree at this point. Jeff Traylor come on down. Would have liked to have Morris but he is a program builder, community rally type. Started doing it at HS and now college. Gets his roster picked apart each year but continuously rebuilds. Knows how to do less with more. Knows the lay of the land in Texas. Reenergizes the fan base and donors.

lmao I love Coach G

Day 4 #PortalRecruiting pic.twitter.com/SoA4rJAxDG

— Paul Gonzales (@realCoachG) January 6, 2026

DTBear said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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If our roster is going to be gutted either way, why not just hire someone else this coming season?

Why say "we are keeping Aranda for roster stability?"

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I completely agree at this point. Jeff Traylor come on down. Would have liked to have Morris but he is a program builder, community rally type. Started doing it at HS and now college. Gets his roster picked apart each year but continuously rebuilds. Knows how to do less with more. Knows the lay of the land in Texas. Reenergizes the fan base and donors.

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There is a problem with the AD hiring someone like Jeff Traylor. Keeping Aranda is a deeply unpopular. Part of the justification for keeping Aranda is the need to keep the roster together, part of it is not wanting to jump in the crazy coaching cycle of this year, part of it is providing the AD an opportunity to do a full review and assessment on the program and make their own hire.

Jeff Traylor could have been hired in week 1 of Doug's tenure. Delaying to fire Aranda this year, sandbagging him for next year and wasting yet another season and bottoming out the program interest and permanently damaging fan trust and interest only to ultimately hire a Jeff Traylor they could've had a year ago is a bad decision.

Now to be clear, this isn't specific to Jeff Traylor but more generally about coaches that we could already have.

CaliBear00 said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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Not really.

They are asking for patience, but understand we are missing on a bunch of targets. It is full fledged panic on most boards.

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What's the point of the panic? Next year was always a punt after Mack was let go. We'll get a new staff and 50+ new guys for 2027.

So, we'll be really bad next year, big deal, been there done that. The panic should set in if we're still not spending to be #5 or 6 in the B12 by 2027 or 2028. If we're like 11th or 12th then we probably are just going to be bad for the foreseeable future.

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The problem is that this lost season will gut the program of the last remaining talent that we have here. No credible coach will want to come here unless our new AD can pay a king's ransom.

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I don't think we're going to have an issue attracting a coach because we were too loyal to the previous coach. Now if we can't promise to spend on a roster, then yeah we'll have issues. Coaches know that rosters have crazy swings from one year to the next now especially in a coaching change season and limited existing talent probably isn't as big a deal as it used to be.

When Linda decided to fire Mack instead of making Mack fire Dave, this was the inevitable result.

I would think she understood the opportunity cost of not firing Dave.

If we had hired a head coach before the AD we could be in a position where we would have tied the hands of the new AD behind his back regarding the future of the program.

As painful as this is, I agree with her thought process. If Dave turns into the new Cingetti over the summer, we all win. If he is still Dave, we fire him and start clean.

This season is not about winning games. It's about positioning for 2027. We need to make sure we have the money to fire Dave, hire a new coach and buy a new roster for 2027.

Kind of like a golf shot into the trees, some times you gotta take your medicine and punch out for a better lie.

BaylorHistory said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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Not really.

They are asking for patience, but understand we are missing on a bunch of targets. It is full fledged panic on most boards.

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What's the point of the panic? Next year was always a punt after Mack was let go. We'll get a new staff and 50+ new guys for 2027.

So, we'll be really bad next year, big deal, been there done that. The panic should set in if we're still not spending to be #5 or 6 in the B12 by 2027 or 2028. If we're like 11th or 12th then we probably are just going to be bad for the foreseeable future.

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The problem is that this lost season will gut the program of the last remaining talent that we have here. No credible coach will want to come here unless our new AD can pay a king's ransom.

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I don't think we're going to have an issue attracting a coach because we were too loyal to the previous coach. Now if we can't promise to spend on a roster, then yeah we'll have issues. Coaches know that rosters have crazy swings from one year to the next now especially in a coaching change season and limited existing talent probably isn't as big a deal as it used to be.

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You will have two consecutive years of complete roster turnover the way they selected to do this. Starting from a complete basement in 2027 playing pick up sticks with our butt cheeks two years in a row

DTBear said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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Not really.

They are asking for patience, but understand we are missing on a bunch of targets. It is full fledged panic on most boards.

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What's the point of the panic? Next year was always a punt after Mack was let go. We'll get a new staff and 50+ new guys for 2027.

So, we'll be really bad next year, big deal, been there done that. The panic should set in if we're still not spending to be #5 or 6 in the B12 by 2027 or 2028. If we're like 11th or 12th then we probably are just going to be bad for the foreseeable future.

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The problem is that this lost season will gut the program of the last remaining talent that we have here. No credible coach will want to come here unless our new AD can pay a king's ransom.

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I don't think we're going to have an issue attracting a coach because we were too loyal to the previous coach. Now if we can't promise to spend on a roster, then yeah we'll have issues. Coaches know that rosters have crazy swings from one year to the next now especially in a coaching change season and limited existing talent probably isn't as big a deal as it used to be.

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You will have two consecutive years of complete roster turnover the way they selected to do this. Starting from a complete basement in 2027 playing pick up sticks with our butt cheeks two years in a row

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Yup, but I don't think being ass has really stopped a coach from coming here in the last 20ish years and it's way easier to build a roster quickly than ever before.

We have facilities and location. If we promise to put money into the coaching staff and roster, then I don't think we'll have any issues getting a good name.

I was told by the sunshine pumpers over on the premium board this is the most money we've ever had for the portal! A Texas st DT, a UAB o-lineman and a NMST CB must be expensive lmao

BarryMcBear said:

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I was told by the sunshine pumpers over on the premium board this is the most money we've ever had for the portal! A Texas st DT, a UAB o-lineman and a NMST CB must be expensive lmao

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I still have no clue why you would give DA any money. Dude cannot evaluate.

MRPorter7635 said:

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When Linda decided to fire Mack instead of making Mack fire Dave, this was the inevitable result.

I would think she understood the opportunity cost of not firing Dave.

If we had hired a head coach before the AD we could be in a position where we would have tied the hands of the new AD behind his back regarding the future of the program.

As painful as this is, I agree with her thought process. If Dave turns into the new Cingetti over the summer, we all win. If he is still Dave, we fire him and start clean.

This season is not about winning games. It's about positioning for 2027. We need to make sure we have the money to fire Dave, hire a new coach and buy a new roster for 2027.

Kind of like a golf shot into the trees, some times you gotta take your medicine and punch out for a better lie.

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This season should have been a rebuilding season so that 2027 would be successful. Instead, 2027 will be the rebuild year and maybe in 2028 we can appreciate good football again.

BarryMcBear said:

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I was told by the sunshine pumpers over on the premium board this is the most money we've ever had for the portal! A Texas st DT, a UAB o-lineman and a NMST CB must be expensive lmao

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would be curious who's saying that...BearSoCal?

FWIW, we also have already signed a CB from OU, and we're far from done adding players.

With this being the only Portal window of the off-season, it's got more players in it than ever, and the players in high demand are likely going to be slower to pull the trigger so as to drive up their value (although for many that's going to be a backfiring strategy as their preferred schools with big NIL budgets go in other directions).

Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

You can only give money to people who are willing to take it.

Right now the good players you want are going to programs in a better position to win now.

Money is money and certainly the driver for many decisions, but players do want to win as well.

MRPorter7635 said:

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When Linda decided to fire Mack instead of making Mack fire Dave, this was the inevitable result.

I would think she understood the opportunity cost of not firing Dave.

If we had hired a head coach before the AD we could be in a position where we would have tied the hands of the new AD behind his back regarding the future of the program.

As painful as this is, I agree with her thought process. If Dave turns into the new Cingetti over the summer, we all win. If he is still Dave, we fire him and start clean.

This season is not about winning games. It's about positioning for 2027. We need to make sure we have the money to fire Dave, hire a new coach and buy a new roster for 2027.

Kind of like a golf shot into the trees, some times you gotta take your medicine and punch out for a better lie.

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I have a better chance of being the next Cignatti. Aranda doesn't seem to have a connection with his players. I don't know why.

The good in 2026 ship sailed when Mack dropped his pants.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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MRPorter7635 said:

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When Linda decided to fire Mack instead of making Mack fire Dave, this was the inevitable result.

I would think she understood the opportunity cost of not firing Dave.

If we had hired a head coach before the AD we could be in a position where we would have tied the hands of the new AD behind his back regarding the future of the program.

As painful as this is, I agree with her thought process. If Dave turns into the new Cingetti over the summer, we all win. If he is still Dave, we fire him and start clean.

This season is not about winning games. It's about positioning for 2027. We need to make sure we have the money to fire Dave, hire a new coach and buy a new roster for 2027.

Kind of like a golf shot into the trees, some times you gotta take your medicine and punch out for a better lie.

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I have a burger chance if being the next Cignatti. Aranda doesn't seem to have a connection with his players. I'm don't know why.

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Because he is odd af

DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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I rather not see Alec Golesh embarrass Way Cool Dave

BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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It's not going to be pretty. Will be on national TV. It will set the mood or trajectory for the entire season for both the team and fan base. SMU just did it so we should be able to do it as well. Cite portal losses as the reason.

DTBear said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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It's not going to be pretty. Will be on national TV. It will set the mood or trajectory for the entire season for both the team and fan base. SMU just did it so we should be able to do it as well. Cite portal losses as the reason.

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Then comes the articles about how Golesh is the new Nick
Saban, and how Auburn will be a natty contender soon, and how we should let the season play out, and blah blah blah

BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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Absolutely brainless thinking. Is this the way the pay side thinks?

I don't think there's much chance Baylor makes a change before the season. But I suppose if recruiting and NIL continues to be disappointing that could be a major strike against the current regime and make it a strong consideration.

Would likely look at the pro ranks for available coaches with a lot of college experience.

I think there's a higher chance of a mid-season change if things really look bad. But there's always the chance that the new DC makes things look a lot better.

Just getting ready for 2026.

DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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Already got dropped by SMU, which has a lot of momentum, and added Prairie View. Auburn will try to use us as a statement game.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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Absolutely brainless thinking. Is this the way the pay side thinks?

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You might be surprised at how anti-Aranda the premies have become. The other side is pretty much the "so you're saying there's a chance" devotees.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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BaylorHistory said:

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DTBear said:

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Honestly we need to try and buy out of the Auburn game.

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What's the difference between 8 and 9 losses? Keep the buyout money and take the L.

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Absolutely brainless thinking. Is this the way the pay side thinks?

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Why? Im serious who cares if we lose to some other P4 school (that we are required to play at least 1 annually) and pay six or seven figures for the privilege instead of saving $$$ and losing to Auburn.

Maybe we get a decent team by the end of the portal window, but it doesn't seem likely so why waste the money?

Coming from the premium board, no one is saying so there's a chance. The premium board is ready to run everyone associated with Baylor Football out the door.

I am almost shocked that Levar Thornton, Carl Williams, Kylan's Reed and Kaleb Burns have not jumped in

DTBear said:

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I am almost shocked that Levar Thornton, Carl Williams, Kylan's Reed and Kaleb Burns have not jumped in

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if the rumor about us now actually having major (or at least more than we ever have) NIL money is true, then we'll only end up losing the guys with whom there isn't mutual interest at their desired price point.

Thornton, Reed and Burns all have very bright futures, so I'd bet we value them very highly. Carl's ceiling is sky high when he's healthy, but that's been a consistent issue for him - he should get a medical redshirt for '25.

EDIT(add): "more money than we've ever had before" because of rev share, our total compensation (i.e. NIL in common parlance but not in technicality) will undoubtedly be at least slightly larger than our NIL was this previous season (the last season before rev share). Allegedly the elite programs are planning on TC that nearly doubles their rev share (i.e. 50/50 rev share/NIL). None of us know what Baylor's plan and actual budget is at this point. Right now we're all just grasping for straws in the dark, frankly.