bears active in the portal ........

- uncle fred

.... and not in a good way.

D!

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https://instagr.am/p/DSk6YckAXuB

You cannot tell me this is apart of the plan

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When you lose a team bell cow you just hope this doesn't create a domino effect with other younger, talented, desired players that were freshman this season. Or guys like Jackie Marshall if he has another year.

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https://instagr.am/p/DSk6YckAXuB

You cannot tell me this is apart of the plan

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this whole defense sucks ass and has no dawgs because Dave can neither identify talent nor develop players
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Thomas an All-Big 12 caliber dawg and it would suck to lose him

Which way, Baylor fan...

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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https://instagr.am/p/DSk6YckAXuB

You cannot tell me this is apart of the plan

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this [] defense sucks ass [even though] Thomas [is] an All-Big 12 caliber dawg and it would suck to lose him

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FIFY

Remember, kids - thing can *always* get worse.

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What gets them to select Baylo?.

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Just like most of them......$$$$$. But you have to have the dollars to do it. That is pretty much the game today. Money has certainly mucked up everything. Why should fans invest their emotions in a team that they have no idea what it will look like from one year to the next? The ONLY people that have any loyalty to the program is the alumni. The players have no problem moving around as do the coaches. The only people left holding the bag is US.

If a team does poorly, transfers occur......if the team does well, transfers still occur. Backups see more bench time so they move on. Then the starter gets injured and their is no depth with which to fill in.

It is all about money. I wonder how many of these players that go from school to school multiple times ever graduate....and very unlikely to get pro $$$$.

This is starting to feel like the men's basketball program last spring

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What did people expect? Kids want to get better as players. Dave makes them worse. This admin is ****ing regarded for keeping that clown Aranda.

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I still believe it was all about lack of money. Combined money for buyouts of old staff and new staff and NIL. Now, that may be because of the previous AD and the team's performance having turned off BMDs. But if the money is not there, the money is not there. That can't be ignored.....at least in my personal world I can't.

That is probably the number one job for the new AD.......and his ability to think outside the box concerning financing...and that is what football and basketball (mens and womens) is all about today. How do you finance your payroll?

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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https://instagr.am/p/DSk6YckAXuB

You cannot tell me this is apart of the plan

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Appears that Linda's letter didn't do a whole lot to keep the recruiting class or the current roster together.

Who could have predicted that...

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I think most people can just see the writing on the wall.

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Most, probably. The question is will they be able to fill those spots with more player that contribute and stick.

There is also the possibility that a couple who are entering the portal may come back.

But they're gonna need a bigger boat if they want to haul in the bulk of a new roster.

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Just like most of them......$$$$$. But you have to have the dollars to do it. That is pretty much the game today. Money has certainly mucked up everything. Why should fans invest their emotions in a team that they have no idea what it will look like from one year to the next? The ONLY people that have any loyalty to the program is the alumni. The players have no problem moving around as do the coaches. The only people left holding the bag is US.

If a team does poorly, transfers occur......if the team does well, transfers still occur. Backups see more bench time so they move on. Then the starter gets injured and their is no depth with which to fill in.

It is all about money. I wonder how many of these players that go from school to school multiple times ever graduate....and very unlikely to get pro $$$$.

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If Faylor does not have the money to compete the move to CUSA or equal where they can.

I would, most will not ever sniff the NFL. They may or may not get degrees.

Which is exactly why they are grabbing as much money as they can right now.

Sad but it is the reality we live in. This is not amateur athletics. This is professional football at a lower level with players who are not quite good enough for the NFL.

The players and the fans have been exploited for years by the money grubbers. Players finally got paid so they are now at least no longer victims of the system.

The fans are left with a shell of what used to be college athletics. And history says prices for everything related to college sports will continue to escalate to pay player salaries.

Sad what has happened. It will be a mess until there is
Collective bargaining and real caps are put in place.

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Just like most of them......$$$$$. But you have to have the dollars to do it. That is pretty much the game today. Money has certainly mucked up everything. Why should fans invest their emotions in a team that they have no idea what it will look like from one year to the next? The ONLY people that have any loyalty to the program is the alumni. The players have no problem moving around as do the coaches. The only people left holding the bag is US.

If a team does poorly, transfers occur......if the team does well, transfers still occur. Backups see more bench time so they move on. Then the starter gets injured and their is no depth with which to fill in.

It is all about money. I wonder how many of these players that go from school to school multiple times ever graduate....and very unlikely to get pro $$$$.

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I think that would be a massively stupid thing to do. The same problems would likely rise up there because of the massive loss of TV revenue and probably other revenue the university gets because of its membership in a major conference that has nothing to do with the media contracts. I doubt BMDs would care to donate to that at all. Don't think they would care much for the ridicule from their peers..

The immediate problem now is likely the buyouts, which we can thank our previous AD, although many here celebrated when Aranda got the extension and didn't head off to the west coast, so we fans are somewhat complicit. I don't buy the line that Baylor admin doesn't want to compete at least on par with our XII peers not named Tech (current unusual situation). There is too much prestige, money and PR involved to not be on a level with whom you consider as your peers. But the Aranda contract and the sudden need to buy players is the crimp that is causing hopefully no more than a temporary problem, but a problem nonetheless.

Being in a major conference involves a lot more than football. You move down to something like CUSA, you just knocked the legs out from underneath all your other sports and significant parts of the university that have nothing to do with football or even athletics. It would paint a dismal picture across the entire university and its alumni, much more so than having an underperforming football program which we have certainly had in our past.

If such a proposal was floated by the administration, this board would go beyond full aggy and you know it.

All that said, all any of us is doing is speculating. We don't have the numbers and we don't have the inside conversations to do anything other.

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You don't think Dave's ability to develop has anything to do with it? He doesn't develop guys at all. And let's just be honest here… he's an awful HC

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All of that may factor in, but I think you would have to ask individual players the development question. I don't really feel qualified to discuss development as I don't see them outside of games and in watching I can't follow and remember who is who and doing what and what they have done before, although I would think that is more the responsibility of the position coaches. And who those are is definitely the responsibility of the head coach. Hard to refute you position based on the team's record, but I have lived through much worse in my time being at and following Baylor. I was there with Bill Beale and am probably numb to some of this stuff. I think we just got thrown into being between a rock and the hard place with timing and the AD situation.

I think the new AD will certainly need to think outside the box to get this thing straightened out, and it would seem that money is going to have to be found in places where it hasn't come from in the past, and like Yormark, places you wouldn't expect. Supposedly he has connections. Sure hope that is the case..

Kansas State starting DT Malcolm Alcorn-Crowder plans to enter the portal, his reps @MattSwoyer30 & @shumate_dave of @3strandsports tells @mzenitz and me.

The 6-foot-6, 305-pound DT posted 18 tackles and 2 sacks this year. Had the 2nd highest pass rush win rate among Big 12 DTs pic.twitter.com/0EYjKcrrGY

— Chris Hummer (@chris_hummer) December 23, 2025

Kansas State LB Austin Romaine is set to enter the portal, per @mzenitz.

He will be a name to watch for Baylor following the hiring of new DC Joe Klanderman.

The two-time All-Big 12 prospect has totaled 184 tackles, 17.5 for loss and 3.5 sacks in his career. pic.twitter.com/3BNoIPDoiR

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) December 22, 2025

Is Kansas State going to lose their entire defense to the portal?

[tweet from parody account]

Dia del DougO said:

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It worked for basketball.

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How so? We pay Drew more than Dave and this year's team will be lucky to be .500 in conference.

boognish_bear said:

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NEWS: Kansas State star PJ Haggerty has opted out of the remainder of the season after not receiving promised NIL compensation.

Kansas State’s NIL fund, Wildcat NIL, shut down earlier this month. Haggerty is strongly considering suing the university.

— Scott Hughes (@ScottHughesCBB) December 23, 2025

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maybe we can turn that frown up$ide down..............

- el uncle fred

D!

Go Bears!!

Guys, that's a parody account. It's not real.

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Dia del DougO said:

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How so? We pay Drew more than Dave and this year's team will be lucky to be .500 in conference.

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I was being sarcastic.

It shouldn't be a thing at all.

Even if we got all the K State guys, wouldn't we still just be K State B-team, but with a worse head coach?

I'm not that excited.

The whole thing with the portal is just extremely frustrating.

I'm sure the top two or three ranked guys we lost were going to be lost regardless of the season outcome, Baylor's handling of the AD and coaching situation and whatever. They just got big money to go places they already had wanted to go.

As for the rest, some are looking to transfer upward for bigger money, and bigger postseason possibilities. Some are transferring downward, having been told they were free to go after not fulfilling expectations or potential. Others are basically probably transferring laterally, looking for a more immediate starting job or a place they feel might get them more NFL ready, or a more marginal bump in pay, or just wanting a change of scenery.

Most of this crap is just going to be how it is to be a bottom third program in a second or third tier conference.

It is not sustainable. The worst is yet to come, and a bubble is going to explode one way or another, and I don't like the looks of how it will effect Baylor at this point.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Guys, that's a parody account. It's not real.

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Dang it...my bad

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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Guys, that's a parody account. It's not real.

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Dang it...my bad

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Me too.

Boog / Alice

He gets everyone the first time. He got me. He's even gotten some of the national media guys. It looks official. If you'll notice, he deletes all his posts so if you try to go back and see what all he's posted you'll get blank screens.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Boog / Alice

He gets everyone the first time. He got me. He's even gotten some of the national media guys. It looks official. If you'll notice, he deletes all his posts so if you try to go back and see what all he's posted you'll get blank screens.

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The dumb thing for me is I'm actually aware of him. He's almost gotten me before...but I figured it out.

Guess I had my guard down. He's pretty good about making tweets that get your attention...but they aren't so crazy to make you immediately suspicious.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Boog / Alice

He gets everyone the first time. He got me. He's even gotten some of the national media guys. It looks official. If you'll notice, he deletes all his posts so if you try to go back and see what all he's posted you'll get blank screens.

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The check mark threw me. I assumed factual tweet. Nevertheless it was such a possibility of what will happen with NIL I actually believed what he stated.

OK… This story is actually real...college sports are so much fun now

Mizzou pass rusher Damon Wilson filed a lawsuit today claiming his former school, Georgia, is illegally attempting to punish him for transferring.

The dispute could be the first major legal test for the strength of college player contracts. https://t.co/vOkC4blETV

— Dan Murphy (@DanMurphyESPN) December 23, 2025

Georgia sued, opening door to challenge transfer portal damages - ESPN
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Former Georgia pass rusher Damon Wilson II says the school's athletic department is attempting to illegally punish him for entering the transfer portal in a lawsuit filed Tuesday, part of an ongoing dispute that could have far-reaching implications on how player contracts work in college sports.

Wilson transferred last January to Missouri, where he was the team's leader in sacks during the 2025 season, weeks after signing a term sheet for a 14-month name, image and likeness contract with Georgia's booster collective. He collected $30,000 in an initial payment for what was a $500,000 deal before leaving the Bulldogs. Georgia filed a lawsuit last month claiming that Wilson owed the athletic department $390,000 in liquidated damages for leaving the team.

Wilson's countersuit, filed in Missouri state court, claims that Georgia has "weaponized" a liquidated damages clause in an unenforceable way to "punish Wilson for entering the portal."

Many schools have inserted liquidated damages clauses in their contracts with athletes since starting to pay players directly earlier this year. Several legal experts who reviewed player contracts for ESPN in the past say schools are inappropriately attempting to use liquidated damages as a de facto "buy out fee" for players who break a contract to transfer. Experts say liquidated damage fee must be tied to actual damages suffered by the party and can't be used as punishment for breaking a contract. Wilson's case is one of the first major tests of whether schools can effectively enforce these clauses to try to dissuade players from transferring.

"Georgia appears intent on making an example of someone, they just picked the wrong person," said Jeff Jensen, one of Wilson's attorneys. "Damon never had a contract with them. I don't see how Georgia thinks intimidation and litigation will help their recruitment efforts -- maybe players could bring lawyers with them to practice."

Georgia spokesman Steve Drummond said the school had no comment because it involves pending litigation and referred to a previous statement he shared after Georgia filed its initial claims against Wilson.

"When the University of Georgia Athletic Association enters binding agreements with student-athletes, we honor our commitments and expect student-athletes to do the same," Drummond said in early December.

The new lawsuit filed Tuesday claims that Drummond's statement is defamatory and intended to harm Wilson's reputation. The suit also claims that Georgia, the Classic City Collective and the collective's operators committed tortious interference and civil conspiracy against Wilson.

The lawsuit states that Georgia officials told coaches at other football programs that Wilson had a "$1.2 million buyout" in an alleged attempt to dissuade other schools from recruiting him.

Wilson's lawyers argue that the three-page term sheet he signed last December is not legally binding because it isn't a full contract. The document, which was shared as part of Georgia's lawsuit, states that it will "be used to create a legal binding document."

Wilson and his attorneys have yet to file a response to the school's claim, which was filed in Georgia and asks a judge to force both parties to settle their dispute in arbitration. State judges in both cases will have to parse through the case to determine who has jurisdiction to make a ruling.

Wilson will play in the Gator Bowl this Saturday with Missouri to finish his junior season.

If you have a business to do an NIL deal, that’s the best option. If not, giving to the Bear Foundation helps to fund rev share (more than $21M in 2026-27). #SicEm

— David Kaye (@DavidKaye9) December 23, 2025

This question illustrates that many of even the most dedicated fans don't realize that we are now living in a post house settlement world.

The revenue share is capped at 21 million for all sports correct?