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Forest Bueller said:

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GoldMind said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Calling rape victims liars


This is the part I don't get. For three consecutive years BU and the highest level Administrators reported ZERO, sexual assault claims. Zero. This was an Administrative decision and trust me, it went to the very top.

There were plenty of reports of assault, we have heard girls say how they were accused of partying, drinking other things and basically silenced. But, ZERO were reported.

To me this is calling rape victims liars and where the majority of the blame goes. The top. A culture of denying rape victims was created by the top decision makers. It finally came to roost and somehow most of the blame was diverted to the football team, when it was a University wide issue, not that there is more assault at Baylor than any other school, that is not the case, but that those who were assaulted were denied their due rights.

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FB and I have always agreed on this point. Why the media wasn't hammering the regents on the basic mathe 10% is this _____ and is football. So 90% is this _________ and is outside football. Wow, Baylor what are you doing to address the 100% because firing Ian and Art just addresses the 10%. Firing Starr and enacting suggested system modifications in secret was the response. That was just blood in the water to media sharks. They wanted more clicks and more scalps.

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One more time for the short bus riders

There's a lot of difference in not reporting sexual assault and sending coaches to cover it up.

That's my beef.

I've never absolved admins of any and all wrongdoing and I've put it on wax several times that I thought hiring Ken Starr was a colossal ****up.

Dispatching henchmen to go do dirty work is what Russian gangsters do, not football coaches.

Back on topic after some magnificent derails.

Jim, I hate to see you go and hope you will reconsider.

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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DING DING DING


All I ever read was the occasional snarky comment about Buddy or TLD, and those were few and far between.

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Did you miss the entire BAA fiasco witht he BOR's?

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NoBSU said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Calling rape victims liars


This is the part I don't get. For three consecutive years BU and the highest level Administrators reported ZERO, sexual assault claims. Zero. This was an Administrative decision and trust me, it went to the very top.

There were plenty of reports of assault, we have heard girls say how they were accused of partying, drinking other things and basically silenced. But, ZERO were reported.

To me this is calling rape victims liars and where the majority of the blame goes. The top. A culture of denying rape victims was created by the top decision makers. It finally came to roost and somehow most of the blame was diverted to the football team, when it was a University wide issue, not that there is more assault at Baylor than any other school, that is not the case, but that those who were assaulted were denied their due rights.

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FB and I have always agreed on this point. Why the media wasn't hammering the regents on the basic mathe 10% is this _____ and is football. So 90% is this _________ and is outside football. Wow, Baylor what are you doing to address the 100% because firing Ian and Art just addresses the 10%. Firing Starr and enacting suggested system modifications in secret was the response. That was just blood in the water to media sharks. They wanted more clicks and more scalps.

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I can't see how absolutely everyone isn't in agreement about this (though I'm sure there are those out there that aren't).

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Notably the ones around here that think the percentage is zero or if the accuser did not press charges & win a conviction then it might as well be zero.

Keyser Soze said:

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NoBSU said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Calling rape victims liars


This is the part I don't get. For three consecutive years BU and the highest level Administrators reported ZERO, sexual assault claims. Zero. This was an Administrative decision and trust me, it went to the very top.

There were plenty of reports of assault, we have heard girls say how they were accused of partying, drinking other things and basically silenced. But, ZERO were reported.

To me this is calling rape victims liars and where the majority of the blame goes. The top. A culture of denying rape victims was created by the top decision makers. It finally came to roost and somehow most of the blame was diverted to the football team, when it was a University wide issue, not that there is more assault at Baylor than any other school, that is not the case, but that those who were assaulted were denied their due rights.

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FB and I have always agreed on this point. Why the media wasn't hammering the regents on the basic mathe 10% is this _____ and is football. So 90% is this _________ and is outside football. Wow, Baylor what are you doing to address the 100% because firing Ian and Art just addresses the 10%. Firing Starr and enacting suggested system modifications in secret was the response. That was just blood in the water to media sharks. They wanted more clicks and more scalps.

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I don't want this to be an excuse, only an explanation

The 90% looks just like most Universities. It is part of a Nation wide epidemic of not taking sexual assault seriously enough. Under-funding Title IX and Human Resources is not a very headline grabbing story. An insensitive Baylor Police Chief gets a giant yawn (shouldn't)

Now 10% committed by a pool of 1% of the student body, that happens to be a rising power in almighty football. .... that is a story that sells ...

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Back on topic after some magnificent derails.

Jim, I hate to see you go and hope you will reconsider.

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The derails are IMO the reasons that Jim's posting was taking a path not in alignment with the website. How many hundreds of times do you think Jim had post This is not an Institution of Football. This is a complex issue for most of us. Jim seemed to have simplified it.

The bottom-line is that we are not going to resolve all disagreements. But you don't have to paint yourself into a corner as a poster that if you don't agree to fire Rhule by 1 pm today, then you are loser supporting losing.

Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Which was the second review? The first was by the Baylor law professor that advises on NCAA matters, correct? For whatever reason(s), he declined to continue.

NoBSU said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Which was the second review? The first was by the Baylor law professor that advises on NCAA matters, correct? For whatever reason(s), he declined to continue.

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That is a wise law professor.

There was so much to take in that commercial grade dumpster that they had to add more divers.

Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

Mothra said:

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BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

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That never happened.

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you obviously haven't been on a baylor board for almost 2 decades with others

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Dispatching henchmen to go do dirty work is what Russian gangsters do, not football coaches.

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and the Clintons

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I can't see how absolutely everyone isn't in agreement about this (though I'm sure there are those out there that aren't).

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Notably the ones around here that think the percentage is zero or if the accuser did not press charges & win a conviction then it might as well be zero.

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it is quite telling

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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all the schools "Self-impose" sanctions and remedies after doing internal investigations

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

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That never happened.

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

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That never happened.

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Careful he tends to stalk those that disagree with him.

More irony lost on him...

BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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BeerThief said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

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This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

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Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

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Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

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I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

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I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

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Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

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Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

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How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

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That never happened.

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Case in point above, he's not even being read but stalks because he can't resist the last word when his ears are burning.

Show me the indictments.

BTW, the idea that you find such allegations humorous is troubling.

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Case in point above, he's not even being read but stalks because he can't resist the last word when his ears are burning.

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So fully of irony today...

Ah, the stalker stalks in vain, and it's driving him up the wall.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Mothra said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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GoldMind said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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GoldMind said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Perhaps he's gotten the message that sending henchmen to coerce victims and their families out of pressing charges is wrong. I'm hopeful he will see the light.

---

This is the sort of shlt that is offense and should be banned. Not jokes about coaches.

You are chasing away good posters and keeping little dip****s that act like little lords prancing around in fancy pants and dreadlocks.

---

Get to banning, then.

Calling rape victims liars and telling anyone who will buy it that Baylor, who he and y'all claim he so DEARLY loves, is run by ******s, "limpwrists" or whatever other names, makes us all look like crap to the people who visit this site, and that should be banned.

Be loyal to Baylor University, and support this coach and team if you want to convince us that you're so loving of our school.

Otherwise, go start brilesdidnothingwrong.com and post that crapola there.

---

Believe it or not, you can believe Briles deserved to be fired AND know that our University is run by completely incompetent people. Believe it or not, you can support and love the school and it's players AND still be extremely skeptical in this coaching staff. None of these things are mutually exclusive. It's that type of all or nothing/ black and white thinking that creates the sort of divisiveness we see, not just on this board, but in this country.

---

I agree with you, but a whole lot of people sure didn't seem to have a problem with the BOR until they fired Briles.

---

I think the manner in which the whole scandal was handled demonstrated a level of incompetence that I know I didn't imagine. Regardless of whether one believes Briles was justly fired, we turned the gun on ourselves.

---

Some sure, but looking in rear view mirrors and criticizing is easy to do.

Hiring an independent third party to investigate and acting decisively nine months later after a report has been given is very rational.

---

Actually, hiring independent counsel to "audit" the program was just about the worst decision imaginable, especially with who they hired. The same people could have been let go, but done after an in-house investigation like every other school has done as of late. Instead, our dirty laundry was aired to the world, and given a spin by a media out for blood.

---

How would that look? Cant conduct an honest investigation on yourself, plus arguing with the media on the subject of SA looks 10 times worse.

Most of the briles thurthers on here were screaming for the dirty laundry to get some air. They wanted "the truth" remember?

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How would that look? Ask Tennessee. They're a perfect example.

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Not apples to apples.

Its one thing to have players accused of rape, another thing to cover them up using assistant coaches.

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You're right, not apples to apples. At Tennessee, Butch Jones actually called the player that helped the victim a "traitor" for reporting his 2 teammates. Briles didn't do that.

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Show me the indictments.

BTW, the idea that you find such allegations humorous is troubling.

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I find yalls moronical denial of the events that led to briles termination troubling. Like people just made this **** up.

GoldMind said:

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Mothra said:

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Show me the indictments.

BTW, the idea that you find such allegations humorous is troubling.

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I find yalls moronical denial of the events that led to briles termination troubling. Like people just made this **** up.

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"Moronical denial" is the perfect description of the poster you're engaging.