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BrooksBearLives said:

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so you only care about black football players and white girls... Frat boys will be Frat boys I guess

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what?

You're seriously arguing that Briles is innocent because other people didn't get busted? (Hint: they have).

Has that defense ever worked? When you get pulled over by a State Trooper and say "whoa, other people are speeding, too!" does he reconsider?

I know being a CAB'r requires a special amount of delusion, but damn. I am wondering how y'all manage to tie your shoes.

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So congrats on winning the condescending pompous ass award


I never said he was completely innocent, only that many who were responsible for puting clear procedures in place and training the staff in those procedures bare more blame for our entire campus than he does...yet many of them still have their jobs and have not been made the face of rape nationwide,

this didn't have to be handled as it was... they could have fixed the problem without destroying him... but the deflection onto him kept them well hidden so I guess it worked out for them

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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. If you find yourself not being able to get over it, try denial. You have a good track record with that.

So, your point is that Briles didn't deserve getting in trouble for what he did (and there was a lot, not just this one case, but a whole cocktail of them -which his defenders refuse to admit- that led to his firing) because other people didn't get fired as well?

Listen, man. You guys keep trying to minimize each one of his actions as if they happened in a vacuum. They didn't. Then, you point to others and say they should be fired -when their actions actually did happen in much more of a vacuum.

Briles was fired for a ton of reasons, but it all comes down to deliberate indifference He was fired because of some of the "bad dudes" he knowingly had in his program -but still kept. He was fired because he had a system set up to keep him from officially "knowing" things (though we have the text messages to prove he knew a lot more than he let on). He was fired because he kept things away from Judicial Affairs (I can't begin to describe how huge of a deal this is). He was supposedly fired in part because, when given a chance to defend himself to the BOR, he essentially said "I am what I am."

At the end of the day, he doesn't represent what I expect in a coach and figurehead of my Alma Mater. I'd rather suck at football than appearing to condone the actions that happened.

I was a hard-core Briles supporter -and I lost a couple friends because of it- up until he was fired, because I knew the BOR wouldn't fire its most important employee (and President and AD) unless they felt they had to. I thought maybe he'd been scapegoated until I read the text-messages.

Then, I had to face reality.

Try it out. It's hard, but you may survive it.

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This is the first I've heard of this. Usually I've seen it reported as him saying something much different. Do you have a link to this quote?

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out of all that, you pick that?

Interesting.

BrooksBearLives said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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so you only care about black football players and white girls... Frat boys will be Frat boys I guess

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what?

You're seriously arguing that Briles is innocent because other people didn't get busted? (Hint: they have).

Has that defense ever worked? When you get pulled over by a State Trooper and say "whoa, other people are speeding, too!" does he reconsider?

I know being a CAB'r requires a special amount of delusion, but damn. I am wondering how y'all manage to tie your shoes.

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So congrats on winning the condescending pompous ass award


I never said he was completely innocent, only that many who were responsible for puting clear procedures in place and training the staff in those procedures bare more blame for our entire campus than he does...yet many of them still have their jobs and have not been made the face of rape nationwide,

this didn't have to be handled as it was... they could have fixed the problem without destroying him... but the deflection onto him kept them well hidden so I guess it worked out for them

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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. If you find yourself not being able to get over it, try denial. You have a good track record with that.

So, your point is that Briles didn't deserve getting in trouble for what he did (and there was a lot, not just this one case, but a whole cocktail of them -which his defenders refuse to admit- that led to his firing) because other people didn't get fired as well?

Listen, man. You guys keep trying to minimize each one of his actions as if they happened in a vacuum. They didn't. Then, you point to others and say they should be fired -when their actions actually did happen in much more of a vacuum.

Briles was fired for a ton of reasons, but it all comes down to deliberate indifference He was fired because of some of the "bad dudes" he knowingly had in his program -but still kept. He was fired because he had a system set up to keep him from officially "knowing" things (though we have the text messages to prove he knew a lot more than he let on). He was fired because he kept things away from Judicial Affairs (I can't begin to describe how huge of a deal this is). He was supposedly fired in part because, when given a chance to defend himself to the BOR, he essentially said "I am what I am."

At the end of the day, he doesn't represent what I expect in a coach and figurehead of my Alma Mater. I'd rather suck at football than appearing to condone the actions that happened.

I was a hard-core Briles supporter -and I lost a couple friends because of it- up until he was fired, because I knew the BOR wouldn't fire its most important employee (and President and AD) unless they felt they had to. I thought maybe he'd been scapegoated until I read the text-messages.

Then, I had to face reality.

Try it out. It's hard, but you may survive it.

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This is the first I've heard of this. Usually I've seen it reported as him saying something much different. Do you have a link to this quote?

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out of all that, you pick that?

Interesting.

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I wasn't in the mood for any more back and forth about all those other things, but I was genuinely curious about what I highlighted cause I'd not heard that before and I was wondering where it came from.

You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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As long as adults like these are in charge, I feel better...

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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As long as adults like these are in charge, I feel better...

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Lol. In charge of fries station at lunch maybe.

ColomboLQ said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

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so you only care about black football players and white girls... Frat boys will be Frat boys I guess

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what?

You're seriously arguing that Briles is innocent because other people didn't get busted? (Hint: they have).

Has that defense ever worked? When you get pulled over by a State Trooper and say "whoa, other people are speeding, too!" does he reconsider?

I know being a CAB'r requires a special amount of delusion, but damn. I am wondering how y'all manage to tie your shoes.

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So congrats on winning the condescending pompous ass award


I never said he was completely innocent, only that many who were responsible for puting clear procedures in place and training the staff in those procedures bare more blame for our entire campus than he does...yet many of them still have their jobs and have not been made the face of rape nationwide,

this didn't have to be handled as it was... they could have fixed the problem without destroying him... but the deflection onto him kept them well hidden so I guess it worked out for them

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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. If you find yourself not being able to get over it, try denial. You have a good track record with that.

So, your point is that Briles didn't deserve getting in trouble for what he did (and there was a lot, not just this one case, but a whole cocktail of them -which his defenders refuse to admit- that led to his firing) because other people didn't get fired as well?

Listen, man. You guys keep trying to minimize each one of his actions as if they happened in a vacuum. They didn't. Then, you point to others and say they should be fired -when their actions actually did happen in much more of a vacuum.

Briles was fired for a ton of reasons, but it all comes down to deliberate indifference He was fired because of some of the "bad dudes" he knowingly had in his program -but still kept. He was fired because he had a system set up to keep him from officially "knowing" things (though we have the text messages to prove he knew a lot more than he let on). He was fired because he kept things away from Judicial Affairs (I can't begin to describe how huge of a deal this is). He was supposedly fired in part because, when given a chance to defend himself to the BOR, he essentially said "I am what I am."

At the end of the day, he doesn't represent what I expect in a coach and figurehead of my Alma Mater. I'd rather suck at football than appearing to condone the actions that happened.

I was a hard-core Briles supporter -and I lost a couple friends because of it- up until he was fired, because I knew the BOR wouldn't fire its most important employee (and President and AD) unless they felt they had to. I thought maybe he'd been scapegoated until I read the text-messages.

Then, I had to face reality.

Try it out. It's hard, but you may survive it.

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This is the first I've heard of this. Usually I've seen it reported as him saying something much different. Do you have a link to this quote?

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out of all that, you pick that?

Interesting.

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I wasn't in the mood for any more back and forth about all those other things, but I was genuinely curious about what I highlighted cause I'd not heard that before and I was wondering where it came from.

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It came from the regents response in Shillinglaw. Here is the passage

"McCaw went first. He responded with great remorse, tearfully acknowledging his

mistakes. He then proposed reforming the culture within football and Athletics with a five-point
plan to improve sexual violence prevention and response. McCaw's thoughtfulness and resolve
impressed many Regents.

Coach Briles came in next. He was overcome with emotion and made the following
statements:
He delegated down and he should not have.
He ran an in-house discipline system when he should have been an open house.
He structured things so that other people handled discipline issues and didn't necessarily report to him.
He was the last to know.
He made mistakes.

The Board asked Coach Briles what he would do to change things. "Tell me what you
want me to do and I'll do it," he said. The Board considered his response particularly telling.
Although he admitted his failings like McCaw had done, Coach Briles provided no solutions or
vision on how to lead Baylor football out of this crisis. The Board was concerned that given all
that had occurred, Coach Briles could not identify with the role of disciplinarian."

Oh my. What a process.

This gives me all the warm fuzzies of watching Obama in the White House with a Dem Senate and House. Heck, that yielded the beauty that is Obamacare. We can compare abject failures with that one and maybe feel ok? Nah.

I've seen what you posted before, which is what lead to my question. I was just wondering where "I am what I am" came from since that's not what this quote says he said.

Obama?

Briles and his show operated like a homeless camp.
A few rapes, assaults and other issues were just pushed aside as everyone loaded up on Baylor money like crack and malt liquor.
Ian was the leading bum. He gets a free pass because he was the weekly Sunday school teacher among the bums.

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You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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Got tired of waiting for the full/fool PH report to come out. BTW, when is that scheduled release again???

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I've seen what you posted before, which is what lead to my question. I was just wondering where "I am what I am" came from since that's not what this quote says he said.

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You may lose the younger audience with that one

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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Got tired of waiting for the full/fool PH report to come out. BTW, when is that scheduled release again???

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The truth that Baylor claims implicates briles yet they refuse to release?? The one that shows how "guilty" he is?? That one?? Baylor won't release it because they know that the whole truth will clear briles and the football program. This "scandal" was triggered by a wrongful conviction and lies. Yet y'all still believe that Baylor and briles "covered something up" it amuses me to watch you peons go back and forth like y'all know what y'all are talking about. I just sit back and read. The truth will be out by 2018 seriously this time

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You guys are all morons arguing about things y'all know nothing about. It's quite funny watching you peasants squabble. The blind leading the blind hahah

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Got tired of waiting for the full/fool PH report to come out. BTW, when is that scheduled release again???

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The truth that Baylor claims implicates briles yet they refuse to release?? The one that shows how "guilty" he is?? That one?? Baylor won't release it because they know that the whole truth will clear briles and the football program. This "scandal" was triggered by a wrongful conviction and lies. Yet y'all still believe that Baylor and briles "covered something up" it amuses me to watch you peons go back and forth like y'all know what y'all are talking about. I just sit back and read. The truth will be out by 2018 seriously this time

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The lies that triggered everything were three straight years of "zero" SA reports to the Feds. This made someone at Texas Monthly sit up and say...hmmm!!!

Agree with the rest of your post.

Briles had his chance to tell his side but he withdrew his lawsuit. He clearly didn't want to take on PH or Baylor. It would have spilled trash all over college athletics. It also would have been a show cause orgy at the NCAA after trash blew all over the organization.
Desperation and a Hail Mary won't change the fact our athletic department and some of its employees handled things like a bunch guys running a homeless camp.
Ian, the guy who gets a pass because he taught Sunday School, should have just handed out numbers to these women and had them wait under the I-35 and 4th street bridge until someone arrived who cared because like homeless camps, they just shrugged off bad behavior as a standard course of business.

It would be nice if just a small percentage of what you post is true

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It would be nice if just a small percentage of what you post is true

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It would be nice for you if you had any piece of your disinformation actually stick.
It's proving time but for the robe it is easier to just shoot bottle rockets at Baylor like dirty terrorists who get exposed and crumble to the point they have to play the race card. The robe gets killed when it comes to character.
The only hope for the robe is that every baby born from today to the end of existence has zero situational awareness, character, common sense, the ability to think for themselves and the ability to read and write.
Someone should write a story and spoof it off our former athletic department. Call it Junior Samples' homeless camp.

Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

Keyser Soze said:

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Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

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You're a lawyer . Not sure for who mind you . You know he is innocent . That's why you have to question everything I post
You know I'm right

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Briles had his chance to tell his side but he withdrew his lawsuit. He clearly didn't want to take on PH or Baylor. It would have spilled trash all over college athletics. It also would have been a show cause orgy at the NCAA after trash blew all over the organization.
Desperation and a Hail Mary won't change the fact our athletic department and some of its employees handled things like a bunch guys running a homeless camp.
Ian, the guy who gets a pass because he taught Sunday School, should have just handed out numbers to these women and had them wait under the I-35 and 4th street bridge until someone arrived who cared because like homeless camps, they just shrugged off bad behavior as a standard course of business.

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That's pure speculation the truth is you don't know why briles dropped his suit. I do. Why didn't the accreditation company punish Baylor? I thought they "covered up sexual assaults" why hasn't Baylor received any punishment? Is it because they know Baylor didn't mishandle any reports? Why is Baylor hiding the truth? The accreditation company actually saw the pepper Hamilton report. It seemed like they were pleased with what they saw. Yet Baylor doesn't want to release it to the public? If they claim briles is as guilty as they claim why don't they release the report that "implicated him and was the reason for his firing??" Why am I asking you all these questions??

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Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

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You're a lawyer . Not sure for who mind you . You know he is innocent . That's why you have to question everything I post
You know I'm right

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Wait he's a lawyer?
Really

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Briles had his chance to tell his side but he withdrew his lawsuit. He clearly didn't want to take on PH or Baylor. It would have spilled trash all over college athletics. It also would have been a show cause orgy at the NCAA after trash blew all over the organization.
Desperation and a Hail Mary won't change the fact our athletic department and some of its employees handled things like a bunch guys running a homeless camp.
Ian, the guy who gets a pass because he taught Sunday School, should have just handed out numbers to these women and had them wait under the I-35 and 4th street bridge until someone arrived who cared because like homeless camps, they just shrugged off bad behavior as a standard course of business.

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That's pure speculation the truth is you don't know why briles dropped his suit. I do. Why didn't the accreditation company punish Baylor? I thought they "covered up sexual assaults" why hasn't Baylor received any punishment? Is it because they know Baylor didn't mishandle any reports? Why is Baylor hiding the truth? The accreditation company actually saw the pepper Hamilton report. It seemed like they were pleased with what they saw. Yet Baylor doesn't want to release it to the public? If they claim briles is as guilty as they claim why don't they release the report that "implicated him and was the reason for his firing??" Why am I asking you all these questions??

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Get painted the face of Rape? Is that why he dropped it? What is the motive?
In my opinion, Baylor should have dumped all the information. The downfall would be there wouldn't be much left professionally involving central parties to our issues.

You are absolutely clueless how accreditation works.
There is not any academic or university provost that wants our former regime on campus.
Explain how the accreditation association or organization (not a company) is going to punish them if they meet guidelines.

Btw, Baylor cannot use their tv $ yet because it is locked away. No school trusts football coaches after screwing up millions. Hardly any school makes money on athletics.

Robemcdo said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

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You're a lawyer . Not sure for who mind you . You know he is innocent . That's why you have to question everything I post
You know I'm right

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Let me be crystal clear, I believe Elliott to be a serial rapist and is exactly where he belongs.

He is also a narcissist and pathological liar who likely thinks himself innocent. So if you are very close to him or his family I will cut you some slack, other than that - you have to be certifiably nuts to think this guy innocent.

What is far worse than anything Briles & the BOR did? Rape ! This guy is the poster child.

Keyser Soze said:

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Robemcdo said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

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You're a lawyer . Not sure for who mind you . You know he is innocent . That's why you have to question everything I post
You know I'm right

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Let me be crystal clear, I believe Elliott to be a serial rapist and is exactly where he belongs.

He is also a narcissist and pathological liar who likely thinks himself innocent. So if you are very close to him or his family I will cut you some slack, other than that - you have to be certifiably nuts to think this guy innocent.

What is far worse than anything Briles & the BOR did? Rape ! This guy is the poster child.

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Don't forget Carlton Dotson is innocent too.
I like how the serial rapist group pushes that very questionable video.
Ask them to describe what is happening on that video. For those scoring at home, the video is darker than Dark Vader, sounds like two inaudible people whispering for less than 5 seconds , a cat locked in closet pissed off and trying to scratch its way out around clothes in dry cleaning bags.

Also, another favorite is the video declaring his innocence. There must be a Jehovah Witness in his family. A bunch of 11th graders at the alternative high school could put it together better video in about 20 minutes. I hope other downtrodden guys don't use those video producers to help them out. Suicide would be a more effective way to declare innocence.
No one with a career would want to be associated with that video.

Nevertheless, Elliott must abide by sex offender rules on the yard. Declare innocence and get convicted at trial.

Bearwitness8223 said:

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Briles had his chance to tell his side but he withdrew his lawsuit. He clearly didn't want to take on PH or Baylor. It would have spilled trash all over college athletics. It also would have been a show cause orgy at the NCAA after trash blew all over the organization.
Desperation and a Hail Mary won't change the fact our athletic department and some of its employees handled things like a bunch guys running a homeless camp.
Ian, the guy who gets a pass because he taught Sunday School, should have just handed out numbers to these women and had them wait under the I-35 and 4th street bridge until someone arrived who cared because like homeless camps, they just shrugged off bad behavior as a standard course of business.

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That's pure speculation the truth is you don't know why briles dropped his suit. I do. Why didn't the accreditation company punish Baylor? I thought they "covered up sexual assaults" why hasn't Baylor received any punishment? Is it because they know Baylor didn't mishandle any reports? Why is Baylor hiding the truth? The accreditation company actually saw the pepper Hamilton report. It seemed like they were pleased with what they saw. Yet Baylor doesn't want to release it to the public? If they claim briles is as guilty as they claim why don't they release the report that "implicated him and was the reason for his firing??" Why am I asking you all these questions??

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What report?

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Robemcdo said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Said the Tevin Elliott in an innocent lamb poster

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You're a lawyer . Not sure for who mind you . You know he is innocent . That's why you have to question everything I post
You know I'm right

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He can be 'innocent' on someone else's campus, err prison farm.

The guy couldn't even cheat right he was so lazy.

F--- him.