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Krieg said:

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tommie said:

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If 1 win doesn't meet the criteria for change on your weakest aspect of that 1 win team...what does?

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He's not going anywhere unless he quits (which I don't see)

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Somebody has to be able to manufacture a scandal that can help with this, right? Anyone?

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The BOR plays with other people's money. Maybe empty stadiums and reduced revenues in terms of donations and sales will jar them but I doubt it.

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They are confident that the collection plate will continue to be filled

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The BOR is more concerned with their perception to the outside world than anything else. They're perfectly fine with this ineptitude as long as the program is considered "clean" and appears aligned with the university mission. Since the board is accountable to no one but themselves, there is no motivation to change. If athletics becomes a money pit, they just hike up the tuition and make the students pay for their incompetence.

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but is it?

aren't black players still having sex with white Baylor girls?

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He wasn't intended to be our primary play caller to begin with. We had another OC picked for that before he changed his mind. So why double down and keep him next year, after this body of work?!

What on earth has anyone thinking he has what it takes?!

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I think CMR is a very loyal guy and would not remove him after one year.

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Seeing as how they are BFFs from PSU days, you are correct.

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

We aren't going to have a productive offense again until we have an experienced and sturdy OL, I don't care what offense you run. I think Brewer will be great if he ever gets true protection and doesn't have to be constantly trying to make plays on the run. Our RBs most of the season ccouldn't get past the line of scrimmage, although they did better against ISU.

But, IMO, it comes down to the line. If we can solve that problem, I think our offense can be successful. Until we do, it won't matter who is OC. There is a reason almost all freshmen OL players are red-shirted. We didn't have that luxury this year.

On the flip side, the defense was good enough to keep us in most games despite the lower offensive output. I'd first just be happy if once we got into the red zone, our worst outcome was a field goal try. We gave the Tech and ISU games away there.

JC Wortsman says we're beating UTSA next year.

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

As I just posted in the Mora thread:

UCLA runs a pro style offense.

Their OC is a guy named Jedd Fisch.

Jedd Fisch is from New Jersey.

Extensive NFL background.

He'll be looking for a job now.

Does that give anyone any ideas?



Also, he's 41. Rhule is 42. I'm hoping like hell they are buddies and maybe even roommates at some point.

Dia del DougO said:

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As I just posted in the Mora thread:

UCLA runs a pro style offense.

Their OC is a guy named Jedd Fisch.

Jedd Fisch is from New Jersey.

Extensive NFL background.

He'll be looking for a job now.

Does that give anyone any ideas?



Also, he's 41. Rhule is 42. I'm hoping like hell they are buddies and maybe even roommates at some point.

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Baylor doesn't run a pro-style offense. How many snaps have you seen under center?

Gunny Hartman said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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As I just posted in the Mora thread:

UCLA runs a pro style offense.

Their OC is a guy named Jedd Fisch.

Jedd Fisch is from New Jersey.

Extensive NFL background.

He'll be looking for a job now.

Does that give anyone any ideas?



Also, he's 41. Rhule is 42. I'm hoping like hell they are buddies and maybe even roommates at some point.

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Baylor doesn't run a pro-style offense. How many snaps have you seen under center?

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They're playing with what they have. The want a mix of pro and spread, allegedly. So far I'm not seeing much of any particular scheme in place. They need one.

This will be some of AD's rationale:

We're young...too young.
We've now lost a significant number of our best players who will be rehabbing.
We lost nearly a full recruiting class...who we lost were critical to 2018 season.
Our incoming class will not be ready for Prime Time.
We have a big learning period still ahead of us.
It took 2 years at Temple to get over the hump and establish "the process".
We planned a 2 season down time for transition; a 1 year of improvement to mediocrity.
That's why I gave Ruhle a 7 year gig. Really, it's a 4 year contract but with all the crap you guys left laying around, I had to put in a 3-year mulligan.
Finally, you guys down here are really hicks who don't know jack. Be glad we showed up to take the job you screwed up.

Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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We aren't going to have a productive offense again until we have an experienced and sturdy OL, I don't care what offense you run. I think Brewer will be great if he ever gets true protection and doesn't have to be constantly trying to make plays on the run. Our RBs most of the season ccouldn't get past the line of scrimmage, although they did better against ISU.

But, IMO, it comes down to the line. If we can solve that problem, I think our offense can be successful. Until we do, it won't matter who is OC. There is a reason almost all freshmen OL players are red-shirted. We didn't have that luxury this year.

On the flip side, the defense was good enough to keep us in most games despite the lower offensive output. I'd first just be happy if once we got into the red zone, our worst outcome was a field goal try. We gave the Tech and ISU games away there.

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I just don't buy putting all the blame for our offensive woes on the oline. It was playing much better toward the end of the year and we were still abysmal offensively. The schemes - combined with an OC with zero experience calling plays - is a recipe for disaster. On top of that I think Brewers arm strength is very questionable. I think we are seeing why he wasn't highly coveted by other teams. We are dinking and dunking all over the place.

The best I see is being with this offense is competent. Gone are the days of scoring Big in my opinion. We got rid our our nuclear weapon, and along with it our unprecedented success, IMO. I hope I am wrong.

Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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So you think that 1) no JUCO or major HS prospects that could come in day one and make an impact will sign with us, and 2) none of our current batch of O Linemen, who now have an entire season of experience / starts, will get any stronger or better during the offseason?

Seems to say a lot about the esteem in which you hold our coaching staff.

How estimable is a 1-10 P5 coach (likely soon to be 1-11) with losses to Liberty and UTSA?

303Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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So you think that 1) no JUCO or major HS prospects that could come in day one and make an impact will sign with us, and 2) none of our current batch of O Linemen, who now have an entire season of experience / starts, will get any stronger or better during the offseason?

Seems to say a lot about the esteem in which you hold our coaching staff.

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We have a number of solid OL coming on board with us next year, one of which (Galvin) is an absolute stud and undoubtedly will enter the rotation immediately. But dear God in heaven I hope we're not having to start another true freshman next year on the offensive line, because their bodies just aren't ready for it.

In addition, we will have Fruh starting at LT, which is fantastic, and then two jucos coming on board, one of which should compete to start. But that's only two talented and experienced lineman, and to win 8 or more games we would need at least four healthy throughout the season.

Question marks remain on our 4 returning starters. Will they markedly improve? Who knows. The one I feel the best about is Newman the true freshman, but I don't expect to see marked improvement from him until his 3rd year, or towards the end of next season at the earliest.

Next year, the ceiling is four to five wins solely because of a developing offensive line. In year 3, we will see what Rhule and company are really made of.

Gunny Hartman said:

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303Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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So you think that 1) no JUCO or major HS prospects that could come in day one and make an impact will sign with us, and 2) none of our current batch of O Linemen, who now have an entire season of experience / starts, will get any stronger or better during the offseason?

Seems to say a lot about the esteem in which you hold our coaching staff.

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We have a number of solid OL coming on board with us next year, one of which (Galvin) is an absolute stud and undoubtedly will enter the rotation immediately. But dear God in heaven I hope we're not having to start another true freshman next year on the offensive line, because their bodies just aren't ready for it.

In addition, we will have Fruh starting at LT, which is fantastic, and then two jucos coming on board, one of which should compete to start. But that's only two talented and experienced lineman, and to win 8 or more games we would need at least four healthy throughout the season.

Question marks remain on our 4 returning starters. Will they markedly improve? Who knows. The one I feel the best about is Newman the true freshman, but I don't expect to see marked improvement from him until his 3rd year, or towards the end of next season at the earliest.

Next year, the ceiling is four to five wins solely because of a developing offensive line. In year 3, we will see what Rhule and company are really made of.

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I don't know about the other OLinemen coming in, but I'm not sold on Fruhmorgan. He played 8 games in 2016. He went out with a shoulder injury then quit that Clemson squad due to personal reasons. He transfers to Florida where he's there for 1 week then transfers to Baylor. Something tells me he's got problems and isn't dependable.

YoakDaddy said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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303Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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So you think that 1) no JUCO or major HS prospects that could come in day one and make an impact will sign with us, and 2) none of our current batch of O Linemen, who now have an entire season of experience / starts, will get any stronger or better during the offseason?

Seems to say a lot about the esteem in which you hold our coaching staff.

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We have a number of solid OL coming on board with us next year, one of which (Galvin) is an absolute stud and undoubtedly will enter the rotation immediately. But dear God in heaven I hope we're not having to start another true freshman next year on the offensive line, because their bodies just aren't ready for it.

In addition, we will have Fruh starting at LT, which is fantastic, and then two jucos coming on board, one of which should compete to start. But that's only two talented and experienced lineman, and to win 8 or more games we would need at least four healthy throughout the season.

Question marks remain on our 4 returning starters. Will they markedly improve? Who knows. The one I feel the best about is Newman the true freshman, but I don't expect to see marked improvement from him until his 3rd year, or towards the end of next season at the earliest.

Next year, the ceiling is four to five wins solely because of a developing offensive line. In year 3, we will see what Rhule and company are really made of.

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I don't know about the other OLinemen coming in, but I'm not sold on Fruhmorgan. He played 8 games in 2016. He went out with a shoulder injury then quit that Clemson squad due to personal reasons. He transfers to Florida where he's there for 1 week then transfers to Baylor. Something tells me he's got problems and isn't dependable.

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Personally, I'm not losing sleep over all that just yet. He started as a freshman at eventual national champion Clemson, which is quite a feat, wasn't happy there for whatever reason, and so he left. He's from Florida so he thought transferring close to home would be a good fit for him, but he was only there a few days, never even attended a class or a workout and quickly realized it wasn't for him. It would seem that the kid is looking for a home. Since he's enrolled here, I haven't heard anything but positive things. So until he shows me otherwise, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Gunny Hartman said:

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303Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Krieg said:

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SicThe12 said:

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Loyalty has NOTHING to do with business. College football is business, and our OC is tanking our stock.

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So is the DC. We played at least 1/3 of the game with what amounted to 10 guys yesterday since we kept removing the safety and putting him literally 20 yards off the ball.

Both coordinators are really bad...so why keep the guy that hired them and let him fail twice?

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Enough of the hyperbole. No head coach Is getting fired after one year, nor should they be. A university would essentially kill its chances of hiring any future candidate worth a damn, because no coach worth his salt would take a job where he'd only have one year to turn the program around.

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Where's the hyperbole? Both coordinators have shown the same stupidity for 11 games with some of the same strategic mistakes. That's all on Rhule.

I get what you're saying about hiring someone else, but it can't really get worse than what he did this year. We could EASILY hire a coordinator or FCS HC that's been successful and none of them would've finished 1-11 this year. None. Maybe he gets better, but he shouldn't have the opportunity. If they won't do that (and they won't) they need to fire everyone in on his hiring process so that Rhule can have pressure applied to go bowling next year, and then can be kicked to the curb without a MASSIVE improvement in year 2.

Also, next year needs to be judged on what this year should've been. You can't hire someone and let them remove your prior expectations regarding their job and then set really low standards from there. No way should we not win 8 next year, and if he can't win at least 6 he needs to be fired.

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I think Rhule did a craptastic job this year, but you expect 8 wins next year? Lol. Okay, so who on the OL is going to provide the protection and the running lanes necessary to make that happen? Perhaps we can sign a few NFL free agents?

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So you think that 1) no JUCO or major HS prospects that could come in day one and make an impact will sign with us, and 2) none of our current batch of O Linemen, who now have an entire season of experience / starts, will get any stronger or better during the offseason?

Seems to say a lot about the esteem in which you hold our coaching staff.

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We have a number of solid OL coming on board with us next year, one of which (Galvin) is an absolute stud and undoubtedly will enter the rotation immediately. But dear God in heaven I hope we're not having to start another true freshman next year on the offensive line, because their bodies just aren't ready for it.

In addition, we will have Fruh starting at LT, which is fantastic, and then two jucos coming on board, one of which should compete to start. But that's only two talented and experienced lineman, and to win 8 or more games we would need at least four healthy throughout the season.

Question marks remain on our 4 returning starters. Will they markedly improve? Who knows. The one I feel the best about is Newman the true freshman, but I don't expect to see marked improvement from him until his 3rd year, or towards the end of next season at the earliest.

Next year, the ceiling is four to five wins solely because of a developing offensive line. In year 3, we will see what Rhule and company are really made of.

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Saturday the true freshman missed block after block after block. Killed us.

BTW, who are the two Juco linemen coming in?

For what it's worth, Baylor gave up far fewer points to Iowa State than Oklahoma & Oklahoma State.

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Personally, I'm not losing sleep over all that just yet. He started as a freshman at eventual national champion Clemson, which is quite a feat, wasn't happy there for whatever reason, and so he left. He's from Florida so he thought transferring close to home would be a good fit for him, but he was only there a few days, never even attended a class or a workout and quickly realized it wasn't for him. It would seem that the kid is looking for a home. Since he's enrolled here, I haven't heard anything but positive things. So until he shows me otherwise, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

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I am trying to remember if we have ever had any problems with a troubled transfer.

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lakersfan34 said:

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robby44 said:

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tommie said:

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tommie said:

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Dman said:

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If 1 win doesn't meet the criteria for change on your weakest aspect of that 1 win team...what does?

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He's not going anywhere unless he quits (which I don't see)

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Somebody has to be able to manufacture a scandal that can help with this, right? Anyone?

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The BOR plays with other people's money. Maybe empty stadiums and reduced revenues in terms of donations and sales will jar them but I doubt it.

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They are confident that the collection plate will continue to be filled

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The BOR is more concerned with their perception to the outside world than anything else. They're perfectly fine with this ineptitude as long as the program is considered "clean" and appears aligned with the university mission. Since the board is accountable to no one but themselves, there is no motivation to change. If athletics becomes a money pit, they just hike up the tuition and make the students pay for their incompetence.

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but is it?

aren't black players still having sex with white Baylor girls?

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I hope not. The locals are better connected with reality.

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For what it's worth, Baylor gave up far fewer points to Iowa State than Oklahoma & Oklahoma State.

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For what it's worth, they didn't get to play the 3rd or 4th string QB, either. With a competent QB they score another 3 TDs.

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BTW, who are the two Juco linemen coming in?

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Colt mentions them here

https://sicem365.com/forums/1/topics/20043

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BTW, who are the two Juco linemen coming in?

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Colt mentions them here

https://sicem365.com/forums/1/topics/20043

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Thanks but I'm not premium.

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I think he should be who he is and stick with his style. If he puts in a spread he'll always want to second guess the OC and mess up the flow. So I think he'd be worse with Kliff Kingsbury for example as his OC because he would always overrule him. You cannot coach what you do not believe in and he does not believe in the spread.

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I wish he would do what Stoops and Patterson did and hire a competent OC and stay the hell out of the offense.

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But can he?

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Insightful answer.

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Pale Rider said:

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BTW, who are the two Juco linemen coming in?

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Colt mentions them here

https://sicem365.com/forums/1/topics/20043

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Thanks but I'm not premium.

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Just regular unleaded?

LOL

;-)

Jacques Strap said:

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I think he should be who he is and stick with his style. If he puts in a spread he'll always want to second guess the OC and mess up the flow. So I think he'd be worse with Kliff Kingsbury for example as his OC because he would always overrule him. You cannot coach what you do not believe in and he does not believe in the spread.

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We've been running the Oregon spread all season

Gunny Hartman said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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I think he should be who he is and stick with his style. If he puts in a spread he'll always want to second guess the OC and mess up the flow. So I think he'd be worse with Kliff Kingsbury for example as his OC because he would always overrule him. You cannot coach what you do not believe in and he does not believe in the spread.

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We've been running the Oregon spread all season

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More like the Oregon Trail.

ColomboLQ said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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I think he should be who he is and stick with his style. If he puts in a spread he'll always want to second guess the OC and mess up the flow. So I think he'd be worse with Kliff Kingsbury for example as his OC because he would always overrule him. You cannot coach what you do not believe in and he does not believe in the spread.

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We've been running the Oregon spread all season

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More like the Oregon Trail.

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Lol. To be more accurate, it's the Chip Kelly spread with some pro concepts sprinkled in. I keep reading on here that we're not running the spread and that's just simply not accurate. Our offensive system is not the issue.