NoBSU said:

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Stranger said:

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PartyBear said:

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Buddy is an idiot if he wanted to fire Briles because he took Texas' call and talked to them. It is clear if he really wanted that job that is where he would be right now in his 5th season. If that numbered Briles' days then Rhule's time should be about up for talking to the Colts on top of his lack of performance issues.

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Urban legend says Briles wanted the Texas job but he overplayed his hand. Texas asked him to sit for an interview. Supposedly Art said no. He countered that they knew who he was and what he had accomplished and an interview was unnecessary. Texas said "no thank you" and withdrew their offer.

The big money boys had gathered in a hotel suite at the Fiesta Bowl and had another coach financially wrapped up and ready to announce if Art left. The big money boys had this plan in place because they honestly believed Art was gone.

Buddy was wise to the proceedings.

Chip Brown had been tipped off early of Briles and Starr's firings before it happened on May 26, 2016. That info came from the board room. How it got to Chip is your
guess.

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I don't remember past schedules well. How did that Fiesta Bowl turn out?

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Ask a player using that exact, condescending smirk, Front running can be a habit.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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NoBSU said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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NoBSU said:

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Michibear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Well, we did not lose a bowl game in 2017, so there's that . . .

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It's a funny bit you guys have where you spin away from the obvious that Briles flirting with UT cost us a game. Negotiating a move to one of our biggest enemies - UT - before our huge game. UT! Just tell the horns to wait a couple of days.

Which one of you is Jeff Dunham? Which one is Fluffy? I have a few specials on hard drive and enjoy your routines on cops and donuts more than your jokes about our head coach negotiating with an enemy the night before a game.

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There is whole lot of people here that seem to be butthurt about UT playing grab ass with Briles but I am certainly not one of them. It happens all the time in Big Boy football. That scenario is much better in my opinion having a head football coach that nobody wants that is just collecting a paycheck. Just a different way of looking at things I guess.

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You feel the same way if he left?

BTW, plenty posters around here will remember my complaining when Drew was flirting with Memphis and PJ3's family was publicly worrying about his BU commitment. I am very consistent with my strange belief of desiring loyalty of those who seek my support.

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People in the business world get hired away from companies all the time. That is all a part of life. I usually don't make a habit of resenting or hating someone for leaving a company for another opportunity that boosts their career and their family situation. Would I have been disappointed? Yes, I would have.

Some of you guys seem to have the attitude like the possessive boyfriend that says, "If I can't have her, then nobody can! It is not healthy. (In my opinion) Am glad to know that you seem to be happy with Matt Rhule's loyalty to Baylor.

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You should ask how people feel rather than just assume they hate or resent someone. That shows how little you think of them to use those words. I learned as a young man to not hate but just to be through with people. I don't let them control my life.

I don't know what Rhule's loyalty to Baylor is and I'm not much of a supporter. Just because I don't like posters calling Baylor coeds lying, greedy ****s is no reason for you to think my posting is about Rhule.

possible12 said:

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NoBSU said:

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Stranger said:

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PartyBear said:

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Buddy is an idiot if he wanted to fire Briles because he took Texas' call and talked to them. It is clear if he really wanted that job that is where he would be right now in his 5th season. If that numbered Briles' days then Rhule's time should be about up for talking to the Colts on top of his lack of performance issues.

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Urban legend says Briles wanted the Texas job but he overplayed his hand. Texas asked him to sit for an interview. Supposedly Art said no. He countered that they knew who he was and what he had accomplished and an interview was unnecessary. Texas said "no thank you" and withdrew their offer.

The big money boys had gathered in a hotel suite at the Fiesta Bowl and had another coach financially wrapped up and ready to announce if Art left. The big money boys had this plan in place because they honestly believed Art was gone.

Buddy was wise to the proceedings.

Chip Brown had been tipped off early of Briles and Starr's firings before it happened on May 26, 2016. That info came from the board room. How it got to Chip is your
guess.

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I don't remember past schedules well. How did that Fiesta Bowl turn out?

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Ask a player using that exact, condescending smirk, Front running can be a habit.

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You want to introduce me to one?

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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NoBSU said:

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NoBSU said:

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Michibear said:

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How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Well, we did not lose a bowl game in 2017, so there's that . . .

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It's a funny bit you guys have where you spin away from the obvious that Briles flirting with UT cost us a game. Negotiating a move to one of our biggest enemies - UT - before our huge game. UT! Just tell the horns to wait a couple of days.

Which one of you is Jeff Dunham? Which one is Fluffy? I have a few specials on hard drive and enjoy your routines on cops and donuts more than your jokes about our head coach negotiating with an enemy the night before a game.

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There is whole lot of people here that seem to be butthurt about UT playing grab ass with Briles but I am certainly not one of them. It happens all the time in Big Boy football. That scenario is much better in my opinion having a head football coach that nobody wants that is just collecting a paycheck. Just a different way of looking at things I guess.

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You feel the same way if he left?

BTW, plenty posters around here will remember my complaining when Drew was flirting with Memphis and PJ3's family was publicly worrying about his BU commitment. I am very consistent with my strange belief of desiring loyalty of those who seek my support.

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People in the business world get hired away from companies all the time. That is all a part of life. I usually don't make a habit of resenting or hating someone for leaving a company for another opportunity that boosts their career and their family situation. Would I have been disappointed? Yes, I would have.

Some of you guys seem to have the attitude like the possessive boyfriend that says, "If I can't have her, then nobody can! It is not healthy. (In my opinion) Am glad to know that you seem to be happy with Matt Rhule's loyalty to Baylor.

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You should ask how people feel rather than just assume they hate or resent someone. That shows how little you think of them to use those words. I learned as a young man to not hate but just to be through with people. I don't let them control my life.

I don't know what Rhule's loyalty to Baylor is and I'm not much of a supporter. Just because I don't like posters calling Baylor coeds lying, greedy ****s is no reason for you to think my posting is about Rhule.

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Relax dude. Did not mean to upset you. Must be past your bedtime. You should get you a glass of milk and go nighty night.

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NoBSU said:

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NoBSU said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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NoBSU said:

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Michibear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Well, we did not lose a bowl game in 2017, so there's that . . .

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It's a funny bit you guys have where you spin away from the obvious that Briles flirting with UT cost us a game. Negotiating a move to one of our biggest enemies - UT - before our huge game. UT! Just tell the horns to wait a couple of days.

Which one of you is Jeff Dunham? Which one is Fluffy? I have a few specials on hard drive and enjoy your routines on cops and donuts more than your jokes about our head coach negotiating with an enemy the night before a game.

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There is whole lot of people here that seem to be butthurt about UT playing grab ass with Briles but I am certainly not one of them. It happens all the time in Big Boy football. That scenario is much better in my opinion having a head football coach that nobody wants that is just collecting a paycheck. Just a different way of looking at things I guess.

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You feel the same way if he left?

BTW, plenty posters around here will remember my complaining when Drew was flirting with Memphis and PJ3's family was publicly worrying about his BU commitment. I am very consistent with my strange belief of desiring loyalty of those who seek my support.

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People in the business world get hired away from companies all the time. That is all a part of life. I usually don't make a habit of resenting or hating someone for leaving a company for another opportunity that boosts their career and their family situation. Would I have been disappointed? Yes, I would have.

Some of you guys seem to have the attitude like the possessive boyfriend that says, "If I can't have her, then nobody can! It is not healthy. (In my opinion) Am glad to know that you seem to be happy with Matt Rhule's loyalty to Baylor.

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You should ask how people feel rather than just assume they hate or resent someone. That shows how little you think of them to use those words. I learned as a young man to not hate but just to be through with people. I don't let them control my life.

I don't know what Rhule's loyalty to Baylor is and I'm not much of a supporter. Just because I don't like posters calling Baylor coeds lying, greedy ****s is no reason for you to think my posting is about Rhule.

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Relax dude. Did not mean to upset you. Must be past your bedtime. You should get you a glass of milk and go nighty night.

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Again, you think I have emotion regarding you. I am a very direct person. I just get to the point.

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I have no faith in the BoR for their hypocrisy, saying that the principles of the Bible are what leads them but yet chose not to follow the basic principles of the Bible. This is a board that puts their faith in attorneys, not by the Bible.

An agreement not to disclose guides the BoR communications, but is not sanctioned in the Bible.

The ninth Commandment says, "thou shall not bear false witness against one another". Their actions violate this commandment, for not bearing false witness requires the telling of the truth, which we are far from getting.

Silence, when allowing a false conclusion, results in bearing a false witness when withholding the truth as well.

The Baylor I learned to support has changed.

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I pray to God that the BORegents that screwed Briles rot in hell for being false Christians. I hope the Devil ****s in their mouth daily.

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NoBSU said:

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Michibear said:

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How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Well, we did not lose a bowl game in 2017, so there's that . . .

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It's a funny bit you guys have where you spin away from the obvious that Briles flirting with UT cost us a game. Negotiating a move to one of our biggest enemies - UT - before our huge game. UT! Just tell the horns to wait a couple of days.

Which one of you is Jeff Dunham? Which one is Fluffy? I have a few specials on hard drive and enjoy your routines on cops and donuts more than your jokes about our head coach negotiating with an enemy the night before a game.

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There is whole lot of people here that seem to be butthurt about UT playing grab ass with Briles but I am certainly not one of them. It happens all the time in Big Boy football. That scenario is much better in my opinion having a head football coach that nobody wants that is just collecting a paycheck. Just a different way of looking at things I guess.

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Exactly. Bu got to rarified air quickly and the suites (some) didn't know to act like they'd been there before...because they hadn't. Same ilk probably ought to go to a few big bowls before feeling entitled to win and embarrassed to lose one. It ain't pretty, but that level coach is a mercenary.

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Completely different.

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Both fanbases have larges masses of people who say each coach did nothing wrong. I certainly wouldnt say completely different.

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One coach is proven to have had knowledge that his friend was molesting boys on campus. The other is proven to have raped... no that's not right... covered up... no, that's not it either... ohhh, he sent those text messages hoping some stupid stuff didn't get picked up by the media?!? Plus he should have known Tevin was a serial rapist even though his his teammates and roommates didn't AND he should have known Sam was trouble despite the clean bill of health from BSU.

Totally the same.

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Their fans say exactly the same things you just did, he couldn't/didn't know, he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't ask the Penn State bor to keep it under wraps etc etc.

As I recall, Briles apologized on ESPN. If I didn't do anything wrong, I wouldn't be compelled to apologize. Especially if I felt another person or persons was responsible.

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His apology was that things happened under his watch, not that he personally did anything wrong. That is what I would call stand-up.

Notice you have responded to other posters, but not to me. Which victims did Briles indirectly encourage not to go to the police. Where can I read those emails/texts?

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They're in the same place all these allegations that the bor did something to blow up the football program because buddy jones didn't like that Briles flirted with Texas. You certainly believe that without reading texts or emails, but You imply I'm making this all up. I get the feeling that everyone's mind made up here.

Answer this one question

If x years from now, the case is over and done, and it shows that Briles did indeed send his assistants to tamper with some of the alleged victims, what will your response be?

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Why in the world did they pay him $15.1 million to go away then?

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they were hoping it would all go away. but it has all lingered like the bull**** that it is

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Well, there ya go. Simple reason. ("they")

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why does briles still have love for baylor and after reading stuff like this i hate baylor?

the world is a messed up place...

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There are probably about $40M reasons over an 8 year period for him to "love" Baylor.

I think allowing him to hire his family, prop up old, rotting, washed up coaches and not having to enforce REAL player discipline might have strengthened his "love" for BU.

He's had 2+ years to get coached on PR and practice for this interview. You guys are still gullible aren't you?

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I pray to God that the BORegents that screwed Briles rot in hell for being false Christians. I hope the Devil ****s in their mouth daily.

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I will pray for the women at Baylor who were indeed assaulted or raped by both athletes and students.

I will pray for folks who place way too much importance on a fun game over the REAL intent of higher education.

I will pray for healing within and outside the Baylor family.

I will pray for the BOR and the agonizing decisions they were forced to make.

Only God knows the hearts of all involved including those of us who post here on this bulletin board.

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Art is gone. He isn't coming back. If you want Baylor football to get back to what it can be...

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... you can wish in one hand and **** in the other and see which fills up first.

Finished that sentence for you. Add that even if we do find a way to make back, we will just **** it up again. Water seeks its own level, and apparently so does Baylor.

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Did you play for Baylor in the 70's and 80's? We had a coach who was fond of telling us this often.

Baylor is still maturing and growing up. We are still learning how to weave intercollegiate athletics into the Pro Ecclesia Pro Texana of Rufus Burleson.

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NoBSU said:

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PartyBear said:

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Buddy is an idiot if he wanted to fire Briles because he took Texas' call and talked to them. It is clear if he really wanted that job that is where he would be right now in his 5th season. If that numbered Briles' days then Rhule's time should be about up for talking to the Colts on top of his lack of performance issues.

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Urban legend says Briles wanted the Texas job but he overplayed his hand. Texas asked him to sit for an interview. Supposedly Art said no. He countered that they knew who he was and what he had accomplished and an interview was unnecessary. Texas said "no thank you" and withdrew their offer.

The big money boys had gathered in a hotel suite at the Fiesta Bowl and had another coach financially wrapped up and ready to announce if Art left. The big money boys had this plan in place because they honestly believed Art was gone.

Buddy was wise to the proceedings.

Chip Brown had been tipped off early of Briles and Starr's firings before it happened on May 26, 2016. That info came from the board room. How it got to Chip is your
guess.

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I don't remember past schedules well. How did that Fiesta Bowl turn out?

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We ended up 11-2 for the season after losing 52-42 to UCF in the Fiesta Bowl. It was absolutely HORRIBLE!!! Thank God we don't have to deal with that bowl crap anymore on the national stage. Those days really sucked. Hope that helps.

How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Not to pick on Art Briles, but Baylor's 2013 loss to UCF by multiple scores was likely the worst thing to happen to the Big 12 since Texas A&M left the conference. The reason being was that Baylor did not defeat anyone of relevant in the regular season OOC, ran through the Big 12 with relative ease, had the nations #1 offense based on those wins (i.e. against the Big 12, bad G5, and FCS teams), and then lost to a functionally G5 team that had already lost to not-undefeated SEC team.

It really provided support for the argument argument that the Big 12 was not that good and didn't play good defense since its 1 loss champion and leader in national offense not only didn't cover a 17+ point spread to that G5 team, but it lost straight up by 10 points to that team. For posters that care about Vegas spreads and would like to treat them as predictions, that would mean that Baylor underperformed in its scoring differential to UCF by 27+ points.

Very well said Cyberbear

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Not to pick on Art Briles, but Baylor's 2013 loss to UCF by multiple scores was likely the worst thing to happen to the Big 12 since Texas A&M left the conference. The reason being was that Baylor did not defeat anyone of relevant in the regular season OOC, ran through the Big 12 with relative ease, had the nations #1 offense based on those wins (i.e. against the Big 12, bad G5, and FCS teams), and then lost to a functionally G5 team that had already lost to not-undefeated SEC team.

It really provided support for the argument argument that the Big 12 was not that good and didn't play good defense since its 1 loss champion and leader in national offense not only didn't cover a 17+ point spread to that G5 team, but it lost straight up by 10 points to that team. For posters that care about Vegas spreads and would like to treat them as predictions, that would mean that Baylor underperformed in its scoring differential to UCF by 27+ points.

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Absolutely.

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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NoBSU said:

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Stranger said:

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PartyBear said:

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Buddy is an idiot if he wanted to fire Briles because he took Texas' call and talked to them. It is clear if he really wanted that job that is where he would be right now in his 5th season. If that numbered Briles' days then Rhule's time should be about up for talking to the Colts on top of his lack of performance issues.

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Urban legend says Briles wanted the Texas job but he overplayed his hand. Texas asked him to sit for an interview. Supposedly Art said no. He countered that they knew who he was and what he had accomplished and an interview was unnecessary. Texas said "no thank you" and withdrew their offer.

The big money boys had gathered in a hotel suite at the Fiesta Bowl and had another coach financially wrapped up and ready to announce if Art left. The big money boys had this plan in place because they honestly believed Art was gone.

Buddy was wise to the proceedings.

Chip Brown had been tipped off early of Briles and Starr's firings before it happened on May 26, 2016. That info came from the board room. How it got to Chip is your
guess.

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I don't remember past schedules well. How did that Fiesta Bowl turn out?

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We ended up 11-2 for the season after losing 52-42 to UCF in the Fiesta Bowl. It was absolutely HORRIBLE!!! Thank God we don't have to deal with that bowl crap anymore on the national stage. Those days really sucked. Hope that helps.

How did our bowl game turn out in 2017?

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Not to pick on Art Briles, but Baylor's 2013 loss to UCF by multiple scores was likely the worst thing to happen to the Big 12 since Texas A&M left the conference. The reason being was that Baylor did not defeat anyone of relevant in the regular season OOC, ran through the Big 12 with relative ease, had the nations #1 offense based on those wins (i.e. against the Big 12, bad G5, and FCS teams), and then lost to a functionally G5 team that had already lost to not-undefeated SEC team.

It really provided support for the argument argument that the Big 12 was not that good and didn't play good defense since its 1 loss champion and leader in national offense not only didn't cover a 17+ point spread to that G5 team, but it lost straight up by 10 points to that team. For posters that care about Vegas spreads and would like to treat them as predictions, that would mean that Baylor underperformed in its scoring differential to UCF by 27+ points.

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LOL! Well I hope you and Thee have a lot of fun at Baylor's next bowl appearance at the next Goody's Headache Powder Bowl. You can brag about our huge stats and great win over Florida International. Whenever that may be.

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Slow down there hoss! Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We have miles of processing before we can eat salsa.

Chuckroast said:

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BeerThief said:

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Booray said:

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BeerThief said:

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ScrappyPaws said:

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BeerThief said:

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PartyBear said:

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Completely different.

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Both fanbases have larges masses of people who say each coach did nothing wrong. I certainly wouldnt say completely different.

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One coach is proven to have had knowledge that his friend was molesting boys on campus. The other is proven to have raped... no that's not right... covered up... no, that's not it either... ohhh, he sent those text messages hoping some stupid stuff didn't get picked up by the media?!? Plus he should have known Tevin was a serial rapist even though his his teammates and roommates didn't AND he should have known Sam was trouble despite the clean bill of health from BSU.

Totally the same.

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Their fans say exactly the same things you just did, he couldn't/didn't know, he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't ask the Penn State bor to keep it under wraps etc etc.

As I recall, Briles apologized on ESPN. If I didn't do anything wrong, I wouldn't be compelled to apologize. Especially if I felt another person or persons was responsible.

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His apology was that things happened under his watch, not that he personally did anything wrong. That is what I would call stand-up.

Notice you have responded to other posters, but not to me. Which victims did Briles indirectly encourage not to go to the police. Where can I read those emails/texts?

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They're in the same place all these allegations that the bor did something to blow up the football program because buddy jones didn't like that Briles flirted with Texas. You certainly believe that without reading texts or emails, but You imply I'm making this all up. I get the feeling that everyone's mind made up here.

Answer this one question

If x years from now, the case is over and done, and it shows that Briles did indeed send his assistants to tamper with some of the alleged victims, what will your response be?

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Why in the world did they pay him $15.1 million to go away then?

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Why did Briles and Shillinglaw drop their cases?

Once it comes out in public that Art had his crew tampering with victims, the regents' interference and wrapping their hands around some the athletic department dirt will be stuffed in most publications next to the comments on trash service.

It is all about Art on the national level.
Baylor's civil war is blamed on the football coach. The public knows these college coaches break the rules. They love watching them get torched.

It took two years, numerous lawyers (squirrel asses tend to run through lawyers) and Art finally strapped himself onto the Baylor Line Foundation's great work.
The oddball's former boss didn't have a problem lying to hurt the Baylor Alumni Association for the Texas taxpayer fee tobacco lawsuit memorial bridge

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Once it comes out in public that Art had his crew tampering with victims, the regents' interference and wrapping their hands around some the athletic department dirt will be stuffed in most publications next to the comments on trash service.

It is all about Art on the national level.
Baylor's civil war is blamed on the football coach. The public knows these college coaches break the rules. They love watching them get torched.

It took two years, numerous lawyers (squirrel asses tend to run through lawyers) and Art finally strapped himself onto the Baylor Line Foundation's great work.
The oddball's former boss didn't have a problem lying to hurt the Baylor Alumni Association for the Texas taxpayer fee tobacco lawsuit memorial bridge

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You privy to something we don't know.

How?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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LOL! Well I hope you and Thee have a lot of fun at Baylor's next bowl appearance at the next Goody's Headache Powder Bowl. You can brag about our huge stats and great win over Florida International. Whenever that may be.

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Where is the Goody's Headache Bowl being played? For me it is all about the location of the game.

When we lost to that commuter school a few years ago in the Fiesta I quit caring about the opponent and looked forward to good trips.