Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well. Their shortcomings were the brief time they also wore the Title IX hat. They really had zero training or experience in Title IX and should have never held the position. That hat was removed from them with the hiring of Patty Crawford in 2014. There have never been reports of evil / poor character or any good reason to remove them since Title IX was removed. Doak is the worst of the worst and few deserve direct comparison.

They are predominately mention by the pro CAB crowd trying to stir the pot. You appear to be a sock trying just that.

Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

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"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

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"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting...

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Facts. Not all were held accountable. Facts. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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Lulz, the fact you snowflake Cabers think you're conspired against by Baylor on a free message board is hysterical.

You're not even a bug on their windshield.

Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

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"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well. Their shortcomings were the brief time they also wore the Title IX hat. They really had zero training or experience in Title IX and should have never held the position. That hat was removed from them with the hiring of Patty Crawford in 2014. There have never been reports of evil / poor character or any good reason to remove them since Title IX was removed. Doak is the worst of the worst and few deserve direct comparison.

They are predominately mention by the pro CAB crowd trying to stir the pot. You appear to be a sock trying just that.

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"For example, Baylor refuses to take any action against Reagan Ramsower, Martha Lou Scott, Bethany McCraw and David Murdock, despite black and white documents showing they buried at least two sexual assault reports against Tevin Elliott prior to his assaulting two more students. Why has Baylor discharged (and paid) some officials for "misconduct," yet kept these individuals in high command?"

Keyser Soze said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

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"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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Nice attempt to deflect. But Couldn't be further from the truth. I'm thrilled with Rhule so far. Looking forward to an awesome year. Supported him from day 1. I'm just not a hypocrite when it comes to what happened. Briles is gone. He can't still impact our school. Your employers aren't. They can. They failed. They should have been replaced.

xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

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Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

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There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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Nice attempt to deflect. But Couldn't be further from the truth. I'm thrilled with Rhule so far. Looking forward to an awesome year. Supported him from day 1. I'm just not a hypocrite when it comes to what happened. Briles is gone. He can't still impact our school. Your employers aren't. They can. They failed. They should have been replaced.

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This. Briles should have stayed and we should have replaced the BOR and those who mismanaged Title IX requirements...but yet they are still employed...as are the same people who lied about the alumni association.

fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

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Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

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There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

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Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

Dman said:

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fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

---

Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

---

There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

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Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

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Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

MilliVanilli said:

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Dman said:

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fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

---

Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

---

There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

---

Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

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Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

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All alumni actually desire a higher standard than leaders who were there: a sex toy salesman, a banker who had taxpayers bail him out, a ceo who got fired for allegedly falsifying expense reports, and administration that kept a known predator on campus for months....but, hey, mistakes were made....

YoakDaddy said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Dman said:

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fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

---

Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

---

There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

---

Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

---

Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

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All alumni actually desire a higher standard than leaders who were there: a sex toy salesman, a banker who had taxpayers bail him out, a ceo who got fired for allegedly falsifying expense reports, and administration that kept a known predator on campus for months....but, hey, mistakes were made....

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Cabers don't give a crap about anything other than Briles being fired. And most are not alumni at that.

MilliVanilli said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Dman said:

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fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

---

Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

---

There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

---

Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

---

Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

---

All alumni actually desire a higher standard than leaders who were there: a sex toy salesman, a banker who had taxpayers bail him out, a ceo who got fired for allegedly falsifying expense reports, and administration that kept a known predator on campus for months....but, hey, mistakes were made....

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Cabers don't give a crap about anything other than Briles being fired. And most are not alumni at that.

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And that's where you're partially wrong. Alumni care deeply about all of the mistakes made no matter who made them. Keep defending your pimps tho.

YoakDaddy said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Dman said:

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fadskier said:

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xiledinok said:

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fadskier said:

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Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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MaduroUTMB said:

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

---

By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

---

"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

---

You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

---

Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

---

There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

---

Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

---

Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

---

All alumni actually desire a higher standard than leaders who were there: a sex toy salesman, a banker who had taxpayers bail him out, a ceo who got fired for allegedly falsifying expense reports, and administration that kept a known predator on campus for months....but, hey, mistakes were made....

---

Cabers don't give a crap about anything other than Briles being fired. And most are not alumni at that.

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And that's where you're partially wrong. Alumni care deeply about all of the mistakes made no matter who made them. Keep defending your pimps tho.

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I have MV on ignore. For years. Literally never respond and can't see unless someone quotes. Not worth my time. He's a pariah. A JOKE. He's spent years calling fathers and grandfathers, all alumni of Baylor, who even have daughters at Baylor...RAPE ENABLERS. RAPE SUPPORTERS. Let that sink in. Because they disagree with his rhetoric. Yet most of this happened before Briles was even on campus.

Keyser is a shill. He's had a narrative from Day 1. Conveniently shows up on threads to defend his employers when called on and then disappears. But he was smart enough to twist quotes and apply select narratives. Come across as knowledgeable...but clearly narrative driven when that "knowledge" is purely one directional . He's the definition of intellectual dishonesty. Easily cornered and trapped on his hypocrisy regarding selective accountability. MV is just a vile village idiot. Nothing more.

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well.

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"By all accounts"...meaning per the updates/narrative Keyser's employers pass along. They keep him WELL informed on the facts that help the cause.

One trick pony. 3 years and counting of selective quotes and evidence he chooses to give weight. Legal depositions under oath, discovery from first hand witnesses, even first hand witnesses from former BoR members and faculty are all ignored...when it goes against his employers. But newspaper articles, leaked selective emails, and quotes from his employers are all facts when it does.

It's not hard to identify a shill. He shows up and posts for pages upon pages when in defense of his BoR. For 3 years and counting. He Hardly posts ANYTHING else otherwise.

Keep in mind my friends. Despite Keysers best attempts. There were mistakes made by all. Fact. Not all were held accountable. Fact. Briles wasn't a monster. Neither was the BoR. But one group got to write the rules. And applied them selectively...

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You are correct. If you say anything positive about Briles...xile, milli, and keyser are just waiting to pounce. They have Briles derangement syndrome.

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Outside the disgraced Caber cheerleader section, there's not really much positive about Art Briles.

Baylor Line Foundation, from Willie who helped those with Farm Aid in the 1980s to Art Briles whose lack of accountability and leadership became the face of the sexual misconduct on college campuses among athletes. One is a legend while one is an embarrassment to organized football.

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There you go again. Briles is anything but an embarrassment. BAYLOR is the face of mismanagement. But you do you.

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Briles should have ran a tighter program. He made Mistakes. Just like the BoR made mistakes and should have run a tighter ship. This problem was part of Baylor WAY before Briles was on campus. But Briles wasn't a Monster. His punishment didn't fit his crime. He didn't cover up or allow rape. He was no different than 5 other coaches in the Big 12 alone and 50 more outside. Many had programs FAR worse. He's just looked at in hindsight 20/20 by a narrative our BOr selectively helped create. Keyser knows all this. He just selectively accepts failure and selectively applies accountability. He has for over 3 years.

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Has it ever occurred to your amoral brain that maybe five Big 12 coaches deserved firing and you're just mad that the one you like was?

Just because not everyone gets held accountable doesn't mean no one will.

Baylor desires a higher standard than you.

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All alumni actually desire a higher standard than leaders who were there: a sex toy salesman, a banker who had taxpayers bail him out, a ceo who got fired for allegedly falsifying expense reports, and administration that kept a known predator on campus for months....but, hey, mistakes were made....

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Cabers don't give a crap about anything other than Briles being fired. And most are not alumni at that.

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And that's where you're partially wrong. Alumni care deeply about all of the mistakes made no matter who made them. Keep defending your pimps tho.

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I have MV on ignore. For years. Literally never respond and can't see unless someone quotes. Not worth my time. He's a pariah. A JOKE. He's spent years calling fathers and grandfathers, all alumni of Baylor, who even have daughters at Baylor...RAPE ENABLERS. RAPE SUPPORTERS. Let that sink in. Because they disagree with his rhetoric. Yet most of this happened before Briles was even on campus.

Keyser is a shill. He's had a narrative from Day 1. Conveniently shows up on threads to defend his employers when called on and then disappears. But he was smart enough to twist quotes and apply select narratives. Come across as knowledgeable...but clearly narrative driven when that "knowledge" is purely one directional . He's the definition of intellectual dishonesty. Easily cornered and trapped on his hypocrisy regarding selective accountability. MV is just a vile village idiot. Nothing more.

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You are doing anything but ignoring, people who are ignoring something don't talk about it at every opportunity.

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Keyser is a shill. He's had a narrative from Day 1. Conveniently shows up on threads to defend his employers when called on and then disappears. But he was smart enough to twist quotes and apply select narratives. Come across as knowledgeable...but clearly narrative driven when that "knowledge" is purely one directional . He's the definition of intellectual dishonesty. Easily cornered and trapped on his hypocrisy regarding selective accountability. MV is just a vile village idiot. Nothing more.

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I respectfully disagree.

Briles fired himself. He stretched a group of people to the brink that tried to defend him. The guy just never got that he worked for a university. In his head, he's a small town politician that's above control. In reality, he doesn't understand the accountability that goes with young people on a college campus. it's a shame, Briles isn't evil, he's just not qualified to coach a college program.

And Keyser and I have spoken at length about certain regents that should have never sniffed the freshly dried paint of our athletic program. he is as critical as I am, and I feel that those members should be banned from serving in any form.

Plenty of people have confronted regents about the facts and stories shared here on this site, rest assured of that.

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Keyser is a shill. He's had a narrative from Day 1. Conveniently shows up on threads to defend his employers when called on and then disappears. But he was smart enough to twist quotes and apply select narratives. Come across as knowledgeable...but clearly narrative driven when that "knowledge" is purely one directional . He's the definition of intellectual dishonesty. Easily cornered and trapped on his hypocrisy regarding selective accountability. MV is just a vile village idiot. Nothing more.

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I respectfully disagree.

Briles fired himself. He stretched a group of people to the brink that tried to defend him. The guy just never got that he worked for a university. In his head, he's a small town politician that's above control. In reality, he doesn't understand the accountability that goes with young people on a college campus. it's a shame, Briles isn't evil, he's just not qualified to coach a college program.

And Keyser and I have spoken at length about certain regents that should have never sniffed the freshly dried paint of our athletic program. he is as critical as I am, and I feel that those members should be banned from serving in any form.

Plenty of people have confronted regents about the facts and stories shared here on this site, rest assured of that.

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Cabers think anyone that doesn't applaud their fan fiction is a shill paid to get them.

They pull the regent card because they don't actually know what the board is, and they selectively have no problem with John Eddie Williams being one during the debacle.

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Bethany McCraw and David Murdock are still running Judicial Affairs. After Dim Joak's retirement in 2014, Wigtil oversaw a real on-point department, shushing up rape victims just like 'ole Jim taught him.

I'm still cheering for the victim/plaintiffs on this one. There are a lot of skeletons hiding in Baylor's closet.

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By all accounts they have run JA fairly well. Their shortcomings were the brief time they also wore the Title IX hat. They really had zero training or experience in Title IX and should have never held the position. That hat was removed from them with the hiring of Patty Crawford in 2014. There have never been reports of evil / poor character or any good reason to remove them since Title IX was removed. Doak is the worst of the worst and few deserve direct comparison.

They are predominately mention by the pro CAB crowd trying to stir the pot. You appear to be a sock trying just that.

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"For example, Baylor refuses to take any action against Reagan Ramsower, Martha Lou Scott, Bethany McCraw and David Murdock, despite black and white documents showing they buried at least two sexual assault reports against Tevin Elliott prior to his assaulting two more students. Why has Baylor discharged (and paid) some officials for "misconduct," yet kept these individuals in high command?"

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Uhm No.

The narrative of the the guy suing Baylor is not fact. Your wording is misleading.

You are trying to go from TE (not charged) being a suspect in cases against non-Baylor students to Baylor staff hiding two assaults - a major reach. There were never complaints made to Baylor. The one involving the MCC student had misdemeanor charge filed about a month after the event and there was an investigation opened in short order after that charge was filed. The AD department was copied when the investigation was opened.

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What guy is suing Baylor? I find it incredibly ironic that you, of all people on this site, should complain about someone's wording being misleading, considering that is all you do on this site.

Besides, they aren't my words, they come from here:

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Plaintiffs+amended+motion+09.14.18+Phil+Stewart+deposition+excerpts.pdf

And maybe I'm just misremembering (I'm not) but I'm fairly certain there were specific emails exchanged between certain Baylor administrators (as named above) about Elliot and what he was doing MONTHS before athletics was ever involved. Oh and there's this:

"I mean, I felt that the presentation was orchestrated, staged to achieve desired results. To take certain actions with respect to the actions that were ultimately taken roughly two weeks later on May the 26th" (in reference to the discharge of Briles, the demotion of Starr, and the demotion of McCaw). Later he said "I am concerned that there was an effort to protect certain members of the administration. Throughout the course of my tenure as a Regent of Baylor, I was always very concerned and quite interested in this -- the role played by Reagan Ramsower in the affairs of the University. Mr. Ramsower, in his role as the chief financial officer of the University, wielded extreme power and authority over the University at various levels. Reagan Ramsower, in his position as executive vice president, had a number of areas report to him, including our Title IX officer as well as the Baylor Police Department. I had significant concerns about the role of Reagan Ramsower at Baylor, and continue to this day.

- Baylor REGENT Phil Stewart