Former Baylor Football Player Shawn Oakman is found Not Guilty of Sexual Assault

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Forest Bueller
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boognish_bear said:

Boomer Sooner JDC not a fan of the jury either




So what culture does Jenny and Brenda foster, a culture where any black male athlete falsely accused by any white girl is automatically guilty, even if the overwhelming preponderance of evidence says he is innocent.

These women have rolled the clock back to 1920 culture. No, not women's suffrage, but the same attitude that allowed lynching of black men, in public squares and nobody was ever convicted of those wrongs. That exact same sorry ass attitude. Jenny and Brenda lead the charge. Dolores is on the bandwagon.
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Timbear said:

C'mon Tell me. Nothing will ever satisfy you. If Art had gotten involved, you would have criticized him for not lying low and keeping his mouth shut. Now that he didn't get involved in someone else's legal proceeding, you criticize him for that.
Triggered?

seemed like a pretty simple question to me, I thought you said he always looked out for his players? I'm pretty sure he said that.
Timbear
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Keep trying Tellme.
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No, but if you went back to his place, took off your clothes and his, jumped into his bed, then yes, I would think that is consensual. Come on now, admit you were wrong.


Brenda's answer..

No that is not consent.


I believe premarital sex is a wrong decision, but come on now, think if your son were held to this standard.




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Timbear said:

Keep trying Tellme.
Let me know if you can get Art a job.

I hear his attorney has the finest manicure in Texas.
Robert Wilson
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Forest Bueller said:

boognish_bear said:

Boomer Sooner JDC not a fan of the jury either




So what culture does Jenny and Brenda foster, a culture where any black male athlete falsely accused by any white girl is automatically guilty, even if the overwhelming preponderance of evidence says he is innocent.

These women have rolled the clock back to 1920 culture. No, not women's suffrage, but the same attitude that allowed lynching of black men, in public squares and nobody was ever convicted of those wrongs. That exact same sorry ass attitude. Jenny and Brenda lead the charge. Dolores is on the bandwagon.
Yep. "If a woman makes the allegation, it's true." There are MANY people, including the ones you mention, who foster that culture. It ignores centuries of law regarding many aspects of innocent until proven guilty. Many around Baylor and this board buy into that culture. Many prosecutors are in the same basic boat, and the world is full of prosecutors who have far more ambition than they do talent.

Most people reading this thread are middle class or better, educated white guys. You can probably fade a false allegation, but maybe not. Same for your son. Even if you ultimately fade it, it will do a lot of damage.

Now, imagine you are an unusually large, intimidating African American, with no money, no connections, no family name or stroke, and you were raised in a homeless shelter. You're asked to learn how to speak, dress, and function in an environment full of Betty and Bobby Baylors. Just imagine a few of those things are true - not all of them. Then, you get accused and have to convince a jury that the guy who didn't fit in in the first place, and who most people were slightly scared of, and who is now wearing an orange jumpsuit, didn't do something wrong.

Many of these people would string you up in a heartbeat.

I'm glad Oakman got a good lawyer and a clear-eyed jury. He's also fortunate that the state's case was so incredibly weak that it didn't make it a close call. But somehow that incredibly weak case hung around for 3 years. That's on the McLennan County DA.
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Excellent post
bunation
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JohnProctor said:

Nobody wins in this one. If this kid had a family wiht a little money he would have been found not guilty within 6 months after the accusation and likely he would be in the NFL right now.

That makes 1 sexual assault conviction under Briles or am I miscounting?


The "count" began when the scandal broke.
Today's count? Zero. Nil. None.

And, the hoax-scandal was triggered/incited by the media's (espn) rush to judgment concerning a non-player's alleged sexual misconduct with an ex (sound familiar?).

So, make that -1. (The media broke out into a frenzy, wrongly/deceitfully pinning the Ukwuachu matter on Art Briles.)
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Agree that Robert Wilson's post is excellent.
bunation
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boognish_bear said:

"They slandered my name....they fired my coach"




Oh my word. That young man took on the entire weight of this hoax. Bless his heart.

Keep in mind Mr. Oakman's bio. He & his sweet family are (obviously) not sophisticated/experienced/worldly in handling the media frenzy/nightmare. Yet, he humbly placed all of their hatred, lies & distortions on himself. That, my friends, is a big reveal...of character. Most, including myself, would have blamed & pointed fingers.

To those of you with feelings for his ex...her lie about intoxication was her undoing. Liars don't make credible witnesses. Whether she truly believed her allegations or not, honesty was her best "evidence" & without that........

Edit: Just read Mr. Wilson's comments (great, inciteful, empathetic) post I didn't intend to be redundant, but for emphasis' sake, it's okay.
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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

Timbear said:

C'mon Tell me. Nothing will ever satisfy you. If Art had gotten involved, you would have criticized him for not lying low and keeping his mouth shut. Now that he didn't get involved in someone else's legal proceeding, you criticize him for that.
Triggered?

seemed like a pretty simple question to me, I thought you said he always looked out for his players? I'm pretty sure he said that.


I'll guarantee you he said plenty of prayers for Mr. Oakman. Art Briles has stated, and Bill Bennett has confirmed Art's telling him, that Coach Briles is not knowledgeable in those type of legal matters, so.....
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bunation said:

boognish_bear said:

"They slandered my name....they fired my coach"




Oh my word. That young man took on the entire weight of this hoax. Bless his heart.

Keep in mind Mr. Oakman's bio. He & his sweet family are (obviously) not sophisticated/experienced/worldly in handling the media frenzy/nightmare. Yet, he humbly placed all of their hatred, lies & distortions on himself. That, my friends, is a big reveal...of character. Most, including myself, would have blamed & pointed fingers.

To those of you with feelings for his ex...her lie about intoxication was her undoing. Liars don't make credible witnesses. Whether she truly believed her allegations or not, honesty was her best "evidence" & without that........

Edit: Just read Mr. Wilson's comments (great, inciteful, empathetic) post I didn't intend to be redundant, but for emphasis' sake, it's okay.
poor guy

Been through the ringer.

And guys on texags/killerfrogs think he should be doing life in prison.
Stan Mikita
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Well it looks like Clay Travis is done messing around.
DustyM
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Redbrickbear said:

bunation said:

boognish_bear said:

"They slandered my name....they fired my coach"




Oh my word. That young man took on the entire weight of this hoax. Bless his heart.

Keep in mind Mr. Oakman's bio. He & his sweet family are (obviously) not sophisticated/experienced/worldly in handling the media frenzy/nightmare. Yet, he humbly placed all of their hatred, lies & distortions on himself. That, my friends, is a big reveal...of character. Most, including myself, would have blamed & pointed fingers.

To those of you with feelings for his ex...her lie about intoxication was her undoing. Liars don't make credible witnesses. Whether she truly believed her allegations or not, honesty was her best "evidence" & without that........

Edit: Just read Mr. Wilson's comments (great, inciteful, empathetic) post I didn't intend to be redundant, but for emphasis' sake, it's okay.
poor guy

Been through the ringer.

And guys on texags/killerfrogs think he should be doing life in prison.
If they are reading this board at all, can you blame them. I can only imagine how hard they laugh at some of the idiots that constantly post on here and how much they hate Baylor and blame everything on the football coaches and players.
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Jmhdfw
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Poor Milli is going to chafe more than usual for his anger bait'in!
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Proud of Griffin for having the courage to tell the truth.

Old"dumbass" Bear.....AKA, "Mr.Boldface Type Will someone NOTICE me.....PLEASE"...could only respond by saying "OJ was found innocent too."

Racist pig. He has no clue what it would have been like to grow up black. Nor do I, but at least I can try.
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JohnProctor said:

That makes 1 sexual assault conviction under Briles or am I miscounting?

Why yes it does.
TenBears
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Terrifying to think of what would have happened to Oakman if this had happened in Waco 100 years ago.
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Bearish said:

Timbear said:

Well, well, well. Another part of the conspiracy wall against Art crumbles down.
Please explain the conspiracy, and how Oakman's trial had anything to do with Art Briles. I'll hang up and listen.
Stan Mikita
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It looks like Brenda Tracy had a long, tough night last night. Her twitter feed was off the rails. Poor lady. I hope she eventually finds some peace with her own identity somehow, some way.
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57Bear said:

BellCountyBear said:

When will there be significant consequences for false-accusers?
Are you referring to the bor?


I think u mean boi
ScottS
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Bring back Briles!
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Jmhdfw said:

Poor Milli is going to chafe more than usual for his anger bait'in!
You really don't have a life that you sit around concerned what a screen name is going to say about a disgraced former college football player.

You're so obsessed you now PM me and post about me when I don't comment on your endless obsession.

Then again you have dedicated yourself to a screen name that is the bane of your Caber existence and think that his truly tragic case of a lost soul accused of sexual assault being given reasonable doubt for such cruel accusations is somehow exonerating for your obsession with a screen name that mocks your cuckholded view of a disgraced college football coach.

It's demonstrative to how defeated Caberdom is, this is what you do 24/7, and the closest thing you have to feeling redeemed for having done it.

A young man avoided prison today, hopefully justly, and all you care about is a screen name that taunts your immaturity.
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..what a screen name is going to say about a disgraced former college football player.
What caused him to be disgraced? An accusation for which he was found not guilty? Do you think that is right, or would you agree with me that it is shameful?
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Malbec said:

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..what a screen name is going to say about a disgraced former college football player.
What caused him to be disgraced? An accusation for which he was found not guilty? Do you think that is right, or would you agree with me that it is shameful?

I'm glad he was found not guilty of rape, but he was kicked out of Penn State and never should've been allowed on Baylor's campus, where he had multiple incidents fixers took care of from run-ins with the law and a general sense of predatory behavior toward young women, he was a bad apple long before his trial.

He was pounced on by an opportunist in this instance but was dumb enough to put himself in a situation to be pounced on and accused by such a devilish claim, largely because of his reputation.

I hope he gets on with his life and has learned a lot.
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https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/I-want-to-play-football-ex-BU-standout-says-after-acquittal-506577331.html

"I want to play football" - Shawn Oakman
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MilliVanilli said:

Malbec said:

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..what a screen name is going to say about a disgraced former college football player.
What caused him to be disgraced? An accusation for which he was found not guilty? Do you think that is right, or would you agree with me that it is shameful?

I'm glad he was found not guilty of rape, but he was kicked out of Penn State and never should've been allowed on Baylor's campus, where he had multiple incidents fixers took care of from run-ins with the law and a general sense of predatory behavior toward young women, he was a bad apple long before his trial.

He was pounced on by an opportunist in this instance but was dumb enough to put himself in a situation to be pounced on and accused by such a devilish claim, largely because of his reputation.

I hope he gets on with his life and has learned a lot.
Good luck, you will need your intelligence training with him and his blind sheep humpers. There's serious blockage upstairs.
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Don't forget this was the second girlfriend to call the police on Oakman. It was the first one that Briles was in hot water for.

The first one was for domestic violence while Oakman was an active player. The girl gave Shillinglaw and assistant coaches a copy of the police report. This never got reported to Judicial Affairs as it should have. The girl did not proceed with charges and instead withdrew from Baylor.






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Keyser Soze said:


Don't forget this was the second girlfriend to call the police on Oakman. It was the first one that Briles was in hot water for.

The first one was for domestic violence while Oakman was an active player. The girl gave Shillinglaw and assistant coaches a copy of the police report. This never got reported to Judicial Affairs as it should have. The girl did not proceed with charges and instead withdrew from Baylor.







Oops.

I guess that was one of those 'in-house' judiciary deals.
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Baylor damage control out in full force on this thread.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
boognish_bear
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What a tough upbringing he had

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xiledinok said:

PartyBear said:

xiledinok said:

Oakman had a good lawyer. He would have won SamU's case.
Why is it ok for you to say Sam U should have been found not guilty but you trash Phil Bennet repeatedly for thinking he would be acquitted at his trial.


Bennett is an idiot. He should have shut up. I think a rape charge was significant unlike Bennett who thought it was just an issue Sam had to deal.

Bennett was an overpaid sideshow.
Been away from this site for a while, return, and see X is still an flaming ass*&#@. Wow
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Stan Mikita said:

It looks like Brenda Tracy had a long, tough night last night. Her twitter feed was off the rails. Poor lady. I hope she eventually finds some peace with her own identity somehow, some way.


Yep...she's on tweet overdrive

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Brenda isn't a great role model for college students. This episode is an ugly exposure of just how racist she is.

Now that Boren has been exposed, she needs to be barred from Big12 campuses. Her comments on this are unacceptable.
 
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