Former Baylor Football Player Shawn Oakman is found Not Guilty of Sexual Assault

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xiledinok said:

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xiledinok said:

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Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

Timbear said:

Keyser blow your nose, Nobody is minimizing anything, but if a girl has the power to ruin a guy's life like Oakman's accuser did his, she better be prepared to prove it.

Well no one will ever know because Art's fixers made that one go away rather than report it to Judicial Affairs
I mean, pictures came out. She filed a police report. She didn't file charges. She could have gone to anyone at the school other than football coaches. Let's not act like it was some massive cover up. The biggest thing is she didn't file charges. If women want justice, FILE CHARGES.

This kind of stuff happens at every school when charges aren't filed.

What stuff happens all the time? Are you saying every coach violates his employers policies about reporting such things up the food chain. Your nuts if you do.
I didn't say "every"...did I?

What I'm saying is that a majority of coaches learn about things and if charges aren't filed the kid is suspended for a violation of team rules. Yeah, I'm saying that. Because I know. Trust me on this. You haven't a clue about college athletics if you don't understand that.


The blue bloods sure handle things better than Shill.
No, they don't. They do the exact same thing. Brazenly. And with the graces of their administration and alums.


Mike Gundy might disagree.

Your dumbasses got caught up because they tried to keep a guy around charged with rape.

I know how the Mixon deal went down and it was dirty but handled cleaner than Shill's ****show. No one was breaking the law concealing crimes.
You'd probably be wrong about OU there bud. And Gundy and his staff ain't so clean either. I know that for a fact.
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BarleyMcDougal said:

xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

Timbear said:

Keyser blow your nose, Nobody is minimizing anything, but if a girl has the power to ruin a guy's life like Oakman's accuser did his, she better be prepared to prove it.

Well no one will ever know because Art's fixers made that one go away rather than report it to Judicial Affairs
I mean, pictures came out. She filed a police report. She didn't file charges. She could have gone to anyone at the school other than football coaches. Let's not act like it was some massive cover up. The biggest thing is she didn't file charges. If women want justice, FILE CHARGES.

This kind of stuff happens at every school when charges aren't filed.

What stuff happens all the time? Are you saying every coach violates his employers policies about reporting such things up the food chain. Your nuts if you do.
I didn't say "every"...did I?

What I'm saying is that a majority of coaches learn about things and if charges aren't filed the kid is suspended for a violation of team rules. Yeah, I'm saying that. Because I know. Trust me on this. You haven't a clue about college athletics if you don't understand that.


The blue bloods sure handle things better than Shill.
No, they don't. They do the exact same thing. Brazenly. And with the graces of their administration and alums.


Mike Gundy might disagree.

Your dumbasses got caught up because they tried to keep a guy around charged with rape.

I know how the Mixon deal went down and it was dirty but handled cleaner than Shill's ****show. No one was breaking the law concealing crimes.
You'd probably be wrong about OU there bud. And Gundy and his staff ain't so clean either. I know that for a fact.


Dude, I m familiar with how it all went down. Shill's head would have exploded and he would have stroked out to be able to come up with the plan they pulled off at OU. I know that for a fact.


Gundy took the hit his first year. The SI story was Les Miles' issues. Gundy kicked off guys that Art would have loved. I know how they cleaned up Tyreke Hill's mess. I know that for a fact.
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3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.

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3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way of jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.

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BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.




Students don't handle Title IX. Wouldn't you rather have adults handling serious issues instead of dumb guys like Art and Shill? I know I would because those two are not very bright. Look at their lawsuit against Baylor. They were too dumb to know that was a bad idea. How did it turn out for them?
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One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.
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Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.


And if the girl had told a music professor instead about an oboe player, and said music professor had not been trained in T9 protocol, because the whole university had never been so trained? So he told her that it was good that she had made a police report and the police would handle it?
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xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.




Students don't handle Title IX. Wouldn't you rather have adults handling serious issues instead of dumb guys like Art and Shill? I know I would because those two are not very bright. Look at their lawsuit against Baylor. They were too dumb to know that was a bad idea. How did it turn out for them?
Zero, zip, nada. 0. You're endless narrative has become worthless. 0 times anything is 0. You're 0. Same goes for about three others. 0.
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BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.

Actually that is an irrelevant question - if they go to coaches the coaches have an obligation to report it. Once they report it coaches are done with it, simple.

Not disagreeing it would be better for any victim to report in other places, but so what. The girl didn't - zero excuse for those who didn't act properly after that.
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BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.
Why go to coaches? It's simple. Because they didn't want to get the guy in serious trouble for being a jerk, but they wanted to tell someone who would make the player's life miserable for a day or so. Only coaches are going to make him run until he pukes or lift until his arms fall off. If they wanted serious punishment, they would have done what anyone with a brain would have done, and they would have been loud about it from the start.
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Malbec said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.
Why go to coaches? It's simple. Because they didn't want to get the guy in serious trouble for being a jerk, but they wanted to tell someone who would make the player's life miserable for a day or so. Only coaches are going to make him run until he pukes or lift until his arms fall off. If they wanted serious punishment, they would have done what anyone with a brain would have done, and they would have been loud about it from the start.
Ding ding ding! Winner!
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Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.

Actually that is an irrelevant question - if they go to coaches the coaches have an obligation to report it. Once they report it coaches are done with it, simple.

Not disagreeing it would be better for any victim to report in other places, but so what. The girl didn't - zero excuse for those who didn't act properly after that.
She reported that she...didn't file charges. In the eyes of the LAW, no crime was committed. My point is that certain people should be kept out of the loop, first and foremost the player's coaches. It's actually a better idea than the ability to report to anyone. There's nothing wrong with a system that works towards fairness and better and more equitable proceedings/resolutions.
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Dman said:

GoldMind said:

Dman said:

GoldMind said:

Dman said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

MilliVanilli said:

Timbear said:

other We got off track...Shawn Oakman.. Not Guilty.
Hopefully not guilty of rape, and that girl should pay the piper for false accusation if so.

But he never should've been on campus, and was exploitable by an opportunist because of the reputation he made for himself as believably guilty of rape.

This wasn't Bryce Petty or Levi Norwood we're talking about here, but a guy kicked out of Penn State and accused by an ex-gf of rape prior and arrested by the Waco PD for incidents involving violence and drug possession.

The fact this is where Cabers come to crow as if it vindicates you somehow is just bizarre because this specimen never ever should've worn a Baylor uniform, was kept out of jail by fixers and at minimal was stupid enough to put himself in the position to be accused by a girl that saw an opportunity.

He's dumb, and so is Caberdom to think his acquittal for rape vindicates Art Briles in any way.


Art Briles made mistakes and may very well should have been fired. I hope Matt Rhule can get us back to a high level. The people that run our school have brought shame and dishonor to all of us. To this day, not a single one of them has made an effort to defend our school. They have embarrassed all of us. We should expect better from our leadership.

Yes, I am a CABer.


CABers embarrass all of us.


Anyone.. who claims to speak for everyone..to validate his personal opinion. Has lost the debate on substance.


How's downtown?


LOVE IT!! Send me a text some time. Come grab drinks with us! How about the new place/country?

Still hitting the gym?


It's fine! I guess...

I actually quit the gym, hardest decision of my life so far.


Yeah, miss the old neighbors and gym friends. I dropped my membership at the old place, there's a nice rooftop gym included here with a great view of the pool. No need for another. Looking forward to warmer months and the pool scene. ;-)

Seriously, text when you have a free night. Make the drive in. Fun nights!
Sure will
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
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I'm finding Dman and GoldMind' s conversation more interesting.
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X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
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* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.
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I'm not sure there is a person on this site or any other site that can accurately speak for what the victims' motivations(or emotions) are and were at the time.

But keep going, this is great entertainment.
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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

I'm not sure there is a person on this site or any other site that can accurately speak for what the victims' motivations(or emotions) are and were at the time.

But keep going, this is great entertainment.
Silencing the witness is the key when you don't want to discipline your players.

If it's bad enough that players think they should be disciplined, you have a discipline problem.
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CNC said:

I'm finding Dman and GoldMind' s conversation more interesting.
Part of the Kingwood Mafia
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
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CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.

From the appearance of one of Art's kids on this board, I think someone was hitting the fen phen during pregnancy.

Only the bubble boys struggle with what happen to dumb Art. I wouldn't criticize anyone if I supported Art and watched him in action.

Where did he get Shill? I know for a fact he couldn't match up with other handlers. I wouldn't want him to handle a dog or cat.
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Reverend said:

xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.




Students don't handle Title IX. Wouldn't you rather have adults handling serious issues instead of dumb guys like Art and Shill? I know I would because those two are not very bright. Look at their lawsuit against Baylor. They were too dumb to know that was a bad idea. How did it turn out for them?
Zero, zip, nada. 0. You're endless narrative has become worthless. 0 times anything is 0. You're 0. Same goes for about three others. 0.
Your wallet is fatter thanks to Art. Geez, I have something to sell Art. Perhaps you could introduce him to my representative.
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xiledinok said:

Reverend said:

xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.




Students don't handle Title IX. Wouldn't you rather have adults handling serious issues instead of dumb guys like Art and Shill? I know I would because those two are not very bright. Look at their lawsuit against Baylor. They were too dumb to know that was a bad idea. How did it turn out for them?
Zero, zip, nada. 0. You're endless narrative has become worthless. 0 times anything is 0. You're 0. Same goes for about three others. 0.
Your wallet is fatter thanks to Art. Geez, I have something to sell Art. Perhaps you could introduce him to my representative.
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xiledinok said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.

From the appearance of one of Art's kids on this board, I think someone was hitting the fen phen during pregnancy.

Only the bubble boys struggle with what happen to dumb Art. I wouldn't criticize anyone if I supported Art and watched him in action.

Where did he get Shill? I know for a fact he couldn't match up with other handlers. I wouldn't want him to handle a dog or cat.
Yeah, I think everyone has figured you out.
xiledinok
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CNC said:

xiledinok said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.

From the appearance of one of Art's kids on this board, I think someone was hitting the fen phen during pregnancy.

Only the bubble boys struggle with what happen to dumb Art. I wouldn't criticize anyone if I supported Art and watched him in action.

Where did he get Shill? I know for a fact he couldn't match up with other handlers. I wouldn't want him to handle a dog or cat.
Yeah, I think everyone has figured you out.

I do. Your boys got busted and then committed career suicide. Briles is not remorseful and America still hates him. You nail salon guys will have to find a new derp to live vicariously through.
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Reverend said:

xiledinok said:

Reverend said:

xiledinok said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:


3 - I agree bad dudes (allegedly) but I was speaking in terms of T9. Failure to provide accommodations under Title IX is why Baylor has made several settlements to assault victims. When the girl told the AD and football people those obligations then existed for Baylor under Title IX. No such liability would exist for any number of poor behavior.
If there are outstanding charges, most coaches are going to suspend the athlete for VoTR and tell their AD. That information getting outside of the athletic department would 50/50. Even if it does, blue blood boosters and presidents don't care that much. If charges weren't filed, I'd say the athlete gets suspended 20 percent of the time (again, VoTR) and it's kept in house. Most programs have a way jettisoning the bad apples with little to no information ever leaking.

I agree that the responses were often inadequate. I don't agree that a university should shoulder that burden without assistance from the actual judicial system. Not every case is equal. Often times, we have kangaroo courts led by STUDENTS handling these matters.




Students don't handle Title IX. Wouldn't you rather have adults handling serious issues instead of dumb guys like Art and Shill? I know I would because those two are not very bright. Look at their lawsuit against Baylor. They were too dumb to know that was a bad idea. How did it turn out for them?
Zero, zip, nada. 0. You're endless narrative has become worthless. 0 times anything is 0. You're 0. Same goes for about three others. 0.
Your wallet is fatter thanks to Art. Geez, I have something to sell Art. Perhaps you could introduce him to my representative.
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How long was that flipper on the market? You aren't very good at flipping.
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CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, incoherently ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.

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Dman said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.


Is this a self-assessment?
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Awe. Look. The village idiot follows another one of my posts. Is it about me??. Sad. Even though I've had him On ignore for years and he knows I don't read them. Speaking of jokes..

(I wonder if he'll get desperate again and start sending me PMs again...knowing I don't read those either. Can't make this stuff up! )

Want to bet he posts again?!
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Dman said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, incoherently ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.


A caractature is how the American public views Art Briles as a person. They could care less and just laugh at the fact internet trolling dominates Art's few supporters and their worthless agenda.

You guys have no credibility left. One can read this thread and realize Art's group is about Art. Oakman's freedom means nothing to Art. He didn't and will not help his former played tied to him.
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Dman said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, incoherently ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.


And yet you don't have him or Milli on ignore.
And yet you respond to their lies
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BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.

Actually that is an irrelevant question - if they go to coaches the coaches have an obligation to report it. Once they report it coaches are done with it, simple.

Not disagreeing it would be better for any victim to report in other places, but so what. The girl didn't - zero excuse for those who didn't act properly after that.
She reported that she...didn't file charges. In the eyes of the LAW, no crime was committed. My point is that certain people should be kept out of the loop, first and foremost the player's coaches. It's actually a better idea than the ability to report to anyone. There's nothing wrong with a system that works towards fairness and better and more equitable proceedings/resolutions.

If you want to appear to not take violence against women seriously, this is how you do it. Not saying you are, but at every turn you are dismissive is a bad way.

Your knowledge of victims of violence seems very naive.
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Osodecentx said:

Dman said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, incoherently ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.


And yet you don't have him or Milli on ignore.
And yet you respond to their lies


He knows that Art didn't do his job and clearly has no place to coach. He doesn't realize America loves to call out Art.

Just look at the thread and post about Shill giving the Title IX investigators the wrong phone number for a player. Shill is an adult who has a teaching certificate but has the common sense of a highway worker or a young undereducated kid at Job Corp. He actually had a job teaching youngsters.
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Osodecentx said:

Dman said:

CNC said:

X, reminds me of Joe Pesci's character in JFK. Might even look like him.
* All over the map on comments
* Constantly paranoid
* Rants on not sure what
* Using "I know for a fact" now, its fun.

I'm not sure on X's age, but I'm pretty sure he was conceived the day before the pull-out-early method was invented.



He's a caractature. The embodiment of a cliche. It's literally not believable that a real person wastes this much time on a football forum, incoherently ranting (sober and drunk...but very little difference between the two) about one person. A person who doesn't even know he exists. But yet...there he is. Oblivious to the fact that he is the joke that he is.


And yet you don't have him or Milli on ignore.
And yet you respond to their lies


OWNED is a great reminder of what a life wasted looks like. No reason to put him on ignore. Village Idiot I can't read unless someone quotes. Anyone who calls Baylor fathers RAPE ENABLERS because they disagree on our leadership, is not worth reading. Ive responsed to others when they quote him....but not him. I even ignore his PMs. Talk about desperate. He's followed my posts for years..even on the old forum..hoping I'll read and engage.
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Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.

Actually that is an irrelevant question - if they go to coaches the coaches have an obligation to report it. Once they report it coaches are done with it, simple.

Not disagreeing it would be better for any victim to report in other places, but so what. The girl didn't - zero excuse for those who didn't act properly after that.
She reported that she...didn't file charges. In the eyes of the LAW, no crime was committed. My point is that certain people should be kept out of the loop, first and foremost the player's coaches. It's actually a better idea than the ability to report to anyone. There's nothing wrong with a system that works towards fairness and better and more equitable proceedings/resolutions.

If you want to appear to not take violence against women seriously, this is how you do it. Not saying you are, but at every turn you are dismissive is a bad way.

You knowledge of victims of violence seems very naive.
Again, that's a ridiculous assertion. I think it's strange that someone post not filing charges would go to the coaches to try and elicit a punishment, which btw I believe he ended up getting.

I don't just assume anyone is a victim or a criminal unless I've got all the available information. Rushing to judgment is a blight on modern society, but it makes for fun fodder for the uneducated masses.
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BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

Keyser Soze said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

One of the essential questions in all this:

Who goes to the football coaches to report crimes? And, why? What's wrong with putting in place a policy that directs a student to report these issues to judicial affairs or the police?

Don't. Go. To. The. Football. Coaches. For. Help.

I'd like to say that university police departments are a reasonable choice for help. But they aren't either.

Actually that is an irrelevant question - if they go to coaches the coaches have an obligation to report it. Once they report it coaches are done with it, simple.

Not disagreeing it would be better for any victim to report in other places, but so what. The girl didn't - zero excuse for those who didn't act properly after that.
She reported that she...didn't file charges. In the eyes of the LAW, no crime was committed. My point is that certain people should be kept out of the loop, first and foremost the player's coaches. It's actually a better idea than the ability to report to anyone. There's nothing wrong with a system that works towards fairness and better and more equitable proceedings/resolutions.

If you want to appear to not take violence against women seriously, this is how you do it. Not saying you are, but at every turn you are dismissive is a bad way.

You knowledge of victims of violence seems very naive.
Again, that's a ridiculous assertion. I think it's strange that someone post not filing charges would go to the coaches to try and elicit a punishment, which btw I believe he ended up getting.

I don't just assume anyone is a victim or a criminal unless I've got all the available information. Rushing to judgment is a blight on modern society, but it makes for fun fodder for the uneducated masses.

Post not filing charges? how do you know that ? - really does not matter

Shouldn't assume ..... correct ..... hard to get all the facts when the fixers make it go away and never see the light of day. You are just cool with that because no criminal charges were filed. That is ridiculous.

 
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