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Gameday Thread: #11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) at #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6)

February 18, 2024
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#11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) travels to Provo, Utah to take on #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6) Tuesday February 20th at 8pm CST.  The game will be televised on ESPN2.  

 

KenPom Prediction:  BYU 79 Baylor 77

Torvik Prediction:  BYU 81 Baylor 76

Evan Miyakawa:  BYU 80 Baylor 76

Haslametrics:  BYU 78 Baylor 73


Coaches

BYU:  Mark Pope (51) 182-104 (105-48 at BYU); NCAA

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 460-249 overall (440-238 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  1-0 Drew


BYU Starters

Guard:  Dallin Hall (SO) 6-4 195 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 45% FG; 38% 3pt; 62% FT

Guard: Trevin Knell (JR) 6-5 185 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 41% 3pt; 75% FT

Guard: Spencer Johnson (SR) 6-5 195 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 42% FG; 30%pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Noah Watterman (SR) 6-11 220 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 46% FG; 38% 3pt; 85% FT

Forward:  Aly Khalifa (JR) 6-11 245 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 4 asst; 42% FG; 36% 3pt; 44% FT

BYU Bench

Forward:  Jaxson Robinson (SR) 6-7 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 43% FG; 36% 3pt; 89% FT

Forward:  Foussenyi Traore (JR) 6-6 240 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 62% FG; 67% 3pt; 78% FT

Guard: Richie Saunders (SO) 6-5 200 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 53% FG; 33% 3pt; 71% FT

Forward:  Atiki Ally Atiki (JR) 6-10 220 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 62% FG; 46% FT


Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 7 asst;  49% FG; 40% 3pt; 70% FT

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 48% FG; 45% 3pt; 67% FT 

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 39% FG; 33% 3pt; 86% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 45% FG; 39% 3pt; 86% FT

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blocks; 65% FG; 58% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 12 ppg; 3 reb; 46% FG; 49% 3pt; 80% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 54% FG; 25% 3pt; 79% FT

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 79% FG; 59% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 2 ppg; 46% FG; 38% 3pt; 73% FT

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Gameday Thread: #11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) at #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6)

41,495 Views | 398 Replies | Last: 8 mo ago by Oldbear83
SIC EM 94
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oldbear69 said:

amcelroy said:

Didn't get to watch the whole game, can someone tell me why we're blaming the refs when we got to take about 20 more free throws than BYU?
because some on here , just won't admit we're a pretty ordinary team, with some serious problems,,,, just keep blaming refs...

You senile old fart, nobody is saying the refs are the sole reason Baylor lost.
Hotsauce
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I didn't even see him on the bench after he went down. Unless he put his warmups back on.
Fre3dombear
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I guess Walter is 1 and done but nothing about what makes him that seems to translate to the floor consistently. Much of the time it's 4 on 5
oldbear69
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houston , at tcu ,kansas, horns, @tech...pick ur poison...
historian
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That is not true. The officials made some bad calls but we couldn't defend well enough. They had 14 3s. The refs had nothing to do with that.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
IowaBear
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He's our leading scorer but he's been about as inefficient offensively as BU has had in a good while. His shooting % is somewhere around 37%. He's leading the team in scoring but is also incredibly inefficient in doing so
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oldbear69 said:

PaperBear89 said:

oldbear69 said:

Oldbear83 said:

oldbear69 said:

Oldbear83 said:

oldbear69 said:

thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...


Hey man. Don't knock the Y. My coaching career peaked there with 10 year olds.
was oldbear 83 officiating?

Not sure. He might have been the one who tossed me when I threw my water bottle (long before the BYU coach did the same)
Fre3dombear
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BearFan33 said:

cleverbearname said:

Walter 19/80 on 3pt in conference


Our lowest percentage shooter takes the most it seems


That about marched our team % output this game
Mitch Henessey
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IowaBear said:

He's our leading scorer but he's been about as inefficient offensively as BU has had in a good while. His shooting % is somewhere around 37%. He's leading the team in scoring but is also incredibly inefficient in doing so
I agree. His shooting efficiency numbers are in the tank, lately. I understand a good shooter (which he allegedly is) trying to shoot himself out of a funk, but in a league as deep and competitive as this one, you can't afford a guy trying to "get right" at the expense of good offensive possessions. Especially on the road.
oldbear69
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SIC EM 94 said:

oldbear69 said:

amcelroy said:

Didn't get to watch the whole game, can someone tell me why we're blaming the refs when we got to take about 20 more free throws than BYU?
because some on here , just won't admit we're a pretty ordinary team, with some serious problems,,,, just keep blaming refs...

You senile old fart, nobody is saying the refs are the sole reason Baylor lost.
correct me if im wrong, im sure u will but didnt bears have 12 more fts than the ldsers..? how bout 1 3 pointer in lasr 14 mins...refs fault?
Oldbear83
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PaperBear89 said:

oldbear69 said:

PaperBear89 said:

oldbear69 said:

Oldbear83 said:

oldbear69 said:

Oldbear83 said:

oldbear69 said:

thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...


Hey man. Don't knock the Y. My coaching career peaked there with 10 year olds.
was oldbear 83 officiating?

Not sure. He might have been the one who tossed me when I threw my water bottle (long before the BYU coach did the same)
Nah, I wasn't much for ejections, and never worked the Y. Mighta been the guy who tossed Drew in the Iowa State game, though ...
Fre3dombear
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Impressive losing to a team that shot 39% from 3 and we shoot 15 or so more free throws.

25% from 3 and dominated on the boards will do that
boognish_bear
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We better get used to it for the future of this conference

SIC EM 94
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historian said:

That is not true. The officials made some bad calls but we couldn't defend well enough. They had 14 3s. The refs had nothing to do with that.

I think you are confused…nobody was saying the refs are the reason Baylor lost. That being said the officiating was fairly poor.
Guitarbiscuit
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True. Should have played more of that, since we got beat from 3 pt territory playing man anyhow.
historian
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Apologies. I misunderstood.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
SIC EM 94
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Correct…and again nobody is claiming the refs cost Baylor the game. I'm not so sure why that's so hard for you to understand. Poor defense, poor shooting, and the horrendous effort rebounding the ball gave Baylor little chance to pull off the road win.
SIC EM 94
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historian said:

Apologies. I misunderstood.

No problem
boognish_bear
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I did not notice he got carried off

Oldbear83
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SIC EM 94 said:

Correct…and again nobody is claiming the refs cost Baylor the game. I'm not so sure why that's so hard for you to understand. Poor defense, poor shooting, and the horrendous effort rebounding the ball gave Baylor little chance to pull off the road win.
I think travelling coast to coast after the West Virginia game cost us some energy.

Hope sleeping in the home beds helps recharge the team.
CHP Bear
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We were in it till Walter's blocked shot toward the end and BYU answering with a 3.
Oldbear83
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boognish_bear said:

I did not notice he got carried off


Oof.
Mitch Henessey
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boognish_bear said:

I did not notice he got carried off


Well, that's absolutely horrific news. Hopefully we can get him back for the Big 12 tourney.
Oldbear83
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CHP Bear said:

We were in it till Walter's blocked shot toward the end and BYU answering with a 3.
True, we got within 4 and had a chance.
boognish_bear
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DanaDane
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boognish_bear said:

I did not notice he got carried off



Oh wow. And I made the comment in the first half that he was moving in all directions showing no signs of hobbling or ankle issues. I missed it. What happened? Did he land on it awkwardly in the 2nd half?
boognish_bear
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Quinton
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IowaBear said:

That's the issue. Houston is prime for a zone. But I'm worried they'll literally out rebound us by 25 if we go primarily zone.
Than again if we go man Shead May break the layups made record


Doubt it at home. As bad as that was, road v home effort and concentration gap is big. Won't be shocked if rebounding is close. Tonight was terrible.. that doesn't change obviously
Crawfoso1973
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DanaDane said:

boognish_bear said:

I did not notice he got carried off



Oh wow. And I made the comment in the first half that he was moving in all directions showing no signs of hobbling or ankle issues. I missed it. What happened? Did he land on it awkwardly in the 2nd half?
My worst nightmare realized, that he would rush back before he was 100% and reinjure it. Now back to square one. He might never be back to 100% this season, even if he is able to return.
Johnny Bear
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Mitch Henessey said:

You guys think that zoning a team that hit 14 3 pointers is a viable gameplan?

Nobody said anything about it being a "game plan", but since our game plan was clearly getting destroyed at the defensive end, why at not at least try it try it as a way to at a minimum stop the frequent penetrations and back cuts? Similar to going to the bullpen when your starter is obviously getting lit up.
oldbear69
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Oldbear83 said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Correct…and again nobody is claiming the refs cost Baylor the game. I'm not so sure why that's so hard for you to understand. Poor defense, poor shooting, and the horrendous effort rebounding the ball gave Baylor little chance to pull off the road win.
I think travelling coast to coast after the West Virginia game cost us some energy.

Hope sleeping in the home beds helps recharge the team.
here u go again, excuses, excuses, excuses,,,sleeping in a strange bed cost us the game,,at least you got off the
referee collusion excuse...just say it , we stunk it up in every way,,,,
Mitch Henessey
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I hate to armchair quarterback this, but I wouldn't have played Langston tonight. I said as much in the game thread Saturday.

Coming off back-to-back cross country flights, in a game that isn't necessarily a "must win," the downside (him getting hurt again, which he did) outweighed the upside.
IowaBear
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Wish I had your confidence. With no Love I think we're going to struggle mightily scoring Saturday. Would likely even with him.
Houston I doubt has much issue scoring against us. Their guards will likely eat ours all game
Mitch Henessey
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Henessey said:

You guys think that zoning a team that hit 14 3 pointers is a viable gameplan?

Nobody said anything about it being a "game plan", but since our game plan was clearly getting destroyed at the defensive end, why at not at least try it try it as a way to at a minimum stop the frequent penetrations and back cuts? Similar to going to the bullpen when your starter is obviously getting lit up.
Sticking with the baseball analogy, it would have been like going to a reliever who only throws offspeed stuff when they've been lighting up anything offspeed all night.
IowaBear
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In fairness he did look healthy and ready to go. At least on Saturday. Granted that could have been misleading
 
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