boognish_bear said:
We will probably never really know...but I would love to hear a play by play of how all of this really went down and what ultimately tipped it in our favor.
Little BU holding off giant blueblood UK is quite the David and Goliath story.
whitetrash said:They can hang a sign over the booth like the "I'll have what she's having" table at Katz's Deli in NYC.hodedofome said:
Hopefully everyone on this thread is planning to spend big bucks at Mi Casita tonight.
And hopefully Mi Casita charges $100 to sit at Drew's table from now on.
Kiss the booth my friends. Kiss the booth.
parch said:
The point here is that God picked Baylor over Kentucky. Put the banner in the rafters now.
jikespingleton said:Since when is 3 < 1?BluesBear said:
If Drew leaves, then all the best of luck. He would go down as the best Coach in Baylor History. Sorry Kim.
boognish_bear said:Thank u @chipgaines for the cupcakes!! Our staff ❤️them!!! #JOY pic.twitter.com/WWmg9GycFE
— Scott Drew (@BUDREW) April 11, 2024
Mark Pope when Mitch offered him the job pic.twitter.com/Imt5T1ZzX0
— Dalton Terry (@Dalton_Terry) April 12, 2024
Mack Rhoades: I’m blessed and grateful to have a wonderful relationship with Scott. We have a transparent relationship. We had great conversations through all of this… some really difficult. But we both know we love each other. Really grateful for his friendship.
— Darby Brown (@darbyjobrown) April 11, 2024
We are…
Mack Rhoades: “Just grateful that Scott is going to remain a Baylor Bear”
— Darby Brown (@darbyjobrown) April 11, 2024
He said Scott Drew called him this morning around “9 something” and told him he’d be staying in Waco.
.@BaylorAthletics AD Mack Rhoades gave @BUDREW his space while both stayed transparent about the Kentucky opening was masterful. There was no “you need to tell us by…”instead allowing his coach who earned the space from 20+ yrs in Waco to get to a point with today’s decision.
— David Smoak (@DavidSmoak) April 12, 2024
https://t.co/owICeSWMk3 pic.twitter.com/4ymrOnlYz1
— Sam Bradshaw (@Baylor_S11) April 11, 2024
“We are blessed that @BUDREW is leading our @BaylorMBB program.”
— Baylor Athletics (@BaylorAthletics) April 12, 2024
Thank you Mack for joining tonight’s Baylor Coach’s Show! 🎙️#SicEm | @rudysbbq pic.twitter.com/MiryI0th74
OurOurs said:
If I'm Drew, I'm also thinking about legacy at this point. While it would be tempting to have a change of scenery and a bigger stage, the reality is his name will never have the same weight in Lexington as he has here.
I have a feeling that if he leaves, it's unlikely that we will see his statue on campus. Similar to Mulkey a great, successful, longtime coach, but not an "immortal."
If he stays, we will see his statue before he retires. He will go down as Baylor's greatest sports coach of all-time. He will be a legend here forever. There is still a lot to accomplish at Baylor, and we need his JOY more than ever as a tentpole for the athletics programs and the university as a whole.
I think if he does leave, then he will have some buyer's remorse when he looks back at the end.
Whomever wrote that response needs to get a life!boognish_bear said:
Sidenote… As many times as I have seen this play I don't remember seeing this bird's eye anglehttps://t.co/owICeSWMk3 pic.twitter.com/4ymrOnlYz1
— Sam Bradshaw (@Baylor_S11) April 11, 2024
I had no idea he still did. Is it a youtube type thing now? or just a radio or podcast?boognish_bear said:
Jim Rome still has a show?
I don't think he was calling Drew God but rather that God picked BU over Kentucky and told Drew that.historian said:parch said:
The point here is that God picked Baylor over Kentucky. Put the banner in the rafters now.
Scott Drew is not God and he would be the first one to say that.
How can he? His life his ruined, ruined I say, over a coach not taking a job......historian said:Whomever wrote that response needs to get a life!boognish_bear said:
Sidenote… As many times as I have seen this play I don't remember seeing this bird's eye anglehttps://t.co/owICeSWMk3 pic.twitter.com/4ymrOnlYz1
— Sam Bradshaw (@Baylor_S11) April 11, 2024
cowboycwr said:
Those with inside sources like Blues bear sure have gone silent.....
cowboycwr said:I don't think he was calling Drew God but rather that God picked BU over Kentucky and told Drew that.historian said:parch said:
The point here is that God picked Baylor over Kentucky. Put the banner in the rafters now.
Scott Drew is not God and he would be the first one to say that.
we should probably shut the free boards down.Mitch Henessey said:
I am hoping against all hope that CSD stays in Waco. That said, trusting the owners of this site to have the inside scoop is a great way to end up with egg on your face.
Ashley Hodge was the guy that posted that the BOR would be giving Briles a second chance in 2016. Etheridge (or maybe it was Hodge) posted that the HC hire in 2017 would be Chad Morris. All of them got scooped by ESPN that Aranda was coming back for (at least) one more year this year.
Look, I appreciate this site as a forum to discuss Baylor sports, a gathering place to interact with other Baylor fans, and all the resources they provide (Smoaky foremost amongst them). But if you're coming here for inside info, there are no true "insiders" to be found here. It's just speculation, much like what most of the UK crap that's been posted on this thread has been.
historian said:
That's too funny!
If it's in the consolation, that will probably right itself in a few days.
No need to apologize. It's your business, you can do with it as you see fit.Ashley Hodge said:we should probably shut the free boards down.Mitch Henessey said:
I am hoping against all hope that CSD stays in Waco. That said, trusting the owners of this site to have the inside scoop is a great way to end up with egg on your face.
Ashley Hodge was the guy that posted that the BOR would be giving Briles a second chance in 2016. Etheridge (or maybe it was Hodge) posted that the HC hire in 2017 would be Chad Morris. All of them got scooped by ESPN that Aranda was coming back for (at least) one more year this year.
Look, I appreciate this site as a forum to discuss Baylor sports, a gathering place to interact with other Baylor fans, and all the resources they provide (Smoaky foremost amongst them). But if you're coming here for inside info, there are no true "insiders" to be found here. It's just speculation, much like what most of the UK crap that's been posted on this thread has been.
First of all, we lose money on them every month. All of the ad money goes to Jason, which is fair because he brought the community to us. We actually subsidize that by 15% as well.
Second, we have mostly "free" users ripping us every chance they get. We mostly ignore it but I know I worked hard on this story. It's a "side hustle" for me and I was fielding calls after midnight to talk to people about what was going on.
Third, I was telling fans on premium that Aranda was getting another year when it was a very unpopular opinion so that is inaccurate.
If you owned this business and most of your "free" customers just *****ed and complained about the premium product that they aren't even paying for and you were losing money on the "free" product, what would you do? Might be time to shut it down.
Sorry for the rant, just a beating to read all the negativity on the free boards. It would be one thing if we actually made any money on it!
boognish_bear said:
Hopefully this is a short-lived thread because we quickly hear it's not happening....
I never was worried about Louisville....but UK is a different animal. I still think he stays....hope so.I asked 4 SEC head coaches to anonymously rank the following 6 Kentucky candidates:
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) April 8, 2024
“Who do you fear the most?”
Here are the results:
1. Scott Drew
2. Bruce Pearl
3. Nate Oats
4. Billy Donovan
5. Sean Miller
6. Chris Beard
All I know is I told my wife earlier this week that this Ashley dude is the only one on any message board (Baylor, UK and others) who was getting everything right in his predictions. Appreciate your hard work!Ashley Hodge said:we should probably shut the free boards down.Mitch Henessey said:
I am hoping against all hope that CSD stays in Waco. That said, trusting the owners of this site to have the inside scoop is a great way to end up with egg on your face.
Ashley Hodge was the guy that posted that the BOR would be giving Briles a second chance in 2016. Etheridge (or maybe it was Hodge) posted that the HC hire in 2017 would be Chad Morris. All of them got scooped by ESPN that Aranda was coming back for (at least) one more year this year.
Look, I appreciate this site as a forum to discuss Baylor sports, a gathering place to interact with other Baylor fans, and all the resources they provide (Smoaky foremost amongst them). But if you're coming here for inside info, there are no true "insiders" to be found here. It's just speculation, much like what most of the UK crap that's been posted on this thread has been.
First of all, we lose money on them every month. All of the ad money goes to Jason, which is fair because he brought the community to us. We actually subsidize that by 15% as well.
Second, we have mostly "free" users ripping us every chance they get. We mostly ignore it but I know I worked hard on this story. It's a "side hustle" for me and I was fielding calls after midnight to talk to people about what was going on.
Third, I was telling fans on premium that Aranda was getting another year when it was a very unpopular opinion so that is inaccurate.
If you owned this business and most of your "free" customers just *****ed and complained about the premium product that they aren't even paying for and you were losing money on the "free" product, what would you do? Might be time to shut it down.
Sorry for the rant, just a beating to read all the negativity on the free boards. It would be one thing if we actually made any money on it!
Ashley Hodge said:we should probably shut the free boards down.Mitch Henessey said:
I am hoping against all hope that CSD stays in Waco. That said, trusting the owners of this site to have the inside scoop is a great way to end up with egg on your face.
Ashley Hodge was the guy that posted that the BOR would be giving Briles a second chance in 2016. Etheridge (or maybe it was Hodge) posted that the HC hire in 2017 would be Chad Morris. All of them got scooped by ESPN that Aranda was coming back for (at least) one more year this year.
Look, I appreciate this site as a forum to discuss Baylor sports, a gathering place to interact with other Baylor fans, and all the resources they provide (Smoaky foremost amongst them). But if you're coming here for inside info, there are no true "insiders" to be found here. It's just speculation, much like what most of the UK crap that's been posted on this thread has been.
First of all, we lose money on them every month. All of the ad money goes to Jason, which is fair because he brought the community to us. We actually subsidize that by 15% as well.
Second, we have mostly "free" users ripping us every chance they get. We mostly ignore it but I know I worked hard on this story. It's a "side hustle" for me and I was fielding calls after midnight to talk to people about what was going on.
Third, I was telling fans on premium that Aranda was getting another year when it was a very unpopular opinion so that is inaccurate.
If you owned this business and most of your "free" customers just *****ed and complained about the premium product that they aren't even paying for and you were losing money on the "free" product, what would you do? Might be time to shut it down.
Sorry for the rant, just a beating to read all the negativity on the free boards. It would be one thing if we actually made any money on it!
Mitch Henessey said:No need to apologize. It's your business, you can do with it as you see fit.Ashley Hodge said:we should probably shut the free boards down.Mitch Henessey said:
I am hoping against all hope that CSD stays in Waco. That said, trusting the owners of this site to have the inside scoop is a great way to end up with egg on your face.
Ashley Hodge was the guy that posted that the BOR would be giving Briles a second chance in 2016. Etheridge (or maybe it was Hodge) posted that the HC hire in 2017 would be Chad Morris. All of them got scooped by ESPN that Aranda was coming back for (at least) one more year this year.
Look, I appreciate this site as a forum to discuss Baylor sports, a gathering place to interact with other Baylor fans, and all the resources they provide (Smoaky foremost amongst them). But if you're coming here for inside info, there are no true "insiders" to be found here. It's just speculation, much like what most of the UK crap that's been posted on this thread has been.
First of all, we lose money on them every month. All of the ad money goes to Jason, which is fair because he brought the community to us. We actually subsidize that by 15% as well.
Second, we have mostly "free" users ripping us every chance they get. We mostly ignore it but I know I worked hard on this story. It's a "side hustle" for me and I was fielding calls after midnight to talk to people about what was going on.
Third, I was telling fans on premium that Aranda was getting another year when it was a very unpopular opinion so that is inaccurate.
If you owned this business and most of your "free" customers just *****ed and complained about the premium product that they aren't even paying for and you were losing money on the "free" product, what would you do? Might be time to shut it down.
Sorry for the rant, just a beating to read all the negativity on the free boards. It would be one thing if we actually made any money on it!
A couple of thoughts, since this has obviously drawn your attention:
1) The free board is likely a loss leader. Many businesses function in this manner. Offer a product or service, and get people using it. Then, offer a superior service and charge for that. You wouldn't be the only business losing money on your free product, but it's probably good marketing for the pay side. Ask BearScoop how only operating a pay board went for them.
2) The users here are actually pretty tame, compared to many other sites. Since the UI here is modeled after TexAgs, if you head over there, take a look at how the free users talk about Liucci. Baylor fans, in general, are very cordial compared to most other fanbases. No one personally attacked you or the other owners, called you any names, or used profanity, as far as I could tell. That's admittedly a very low bar of human decency to clear, but you'd be surprised how often it isn't cleared by other fan sites.
3) No one is denying how hard you worked on the story. I'm extremely glad that you were correct on this one, and it's raised your credibility in my eyes. That probably doesn't mean anything to you, nor should it, but for what it's worth, well done.
4) Again, it's your business, and you're free to do with it as you please. But, buying the largest free Baylor board to try and convert those users into paying users, then shutting the free board down does feel a tad bit predatory. And you not making any money off the free board, unless that was a conscious business decision you and the other owners made at the time you purchased BaylorFans.com, isn't really our problem. It seems like something that should have been negotiated into the purchasing agreement for BFans.
5) I have no issue with you, Brian, Colt, or any other employee of this site. I enjoy the platform that you provide, and would miss it if it was gone. I personally wouldn't pay for premium access if this site went away, however. I did at one point in my life (BFans premium, BearScoop, BearsTruth premium member), but I am not at the point in my life where the additional expense or time spent on the premium side makes sense for me. As I said in a subsequent post, it seems like the premium side is excellent at recruiting news. I simply don't care about recruiting enough to make it worth my while. Maybe you nailing the Drew news makes me change my mind.
If you decide to shut down the free board, that's your prerogative. I personally would think it a poor business decision, because you're burning the #1 marketing pipeline you have to actually make money for your side hustle/passion project.
If you're looking for an apology, I'm sorry that I missed your reporting to the premium side about Aranda's return last fall. I did see Brian complaining that Thamel got the scoop over a dedicated Baylor site that is close to the program, so I assumed everyone at SicEm also got scooped on the story, and it reinforced the narrative about the previous stories you guys had gotten incorrect. That's my bad.
