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Gameday Thread: No. 8 Baylor (0-1) versus No. 16 Arkansas (1-0)

November 8, 2024
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No. 8 Baylor (0-1) looks to rebound from the loss to No. 6 Gonzaga with a match-up against No. 16 Arkansas (1-0) in Dallas at the American Airlines Center on Nov. 9 at 6:30 p.m. CST.  The game will be televised on ESPNU.

KenPom Prediction: Baylor 77, Arkansas 76

Torvik Prediction: Baylor 76, Arkansas 75

Evan Miyakawa: Baylor 76, Arkansas 76 (toss-up)

Haslametrics: Baylor 77, Arkansas 72


Coaches

Arkansas: John Calipari (65) 814-260 (1-0 at Arkansas); 23 NCAAs; 14 Sweet 16s; 12 Elite 8s; 5 FFs; 1 National Championship

Baylor: Scott Drew (53); 465-254 overall (435-243 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 2-1 Drew


Arkansas Starters

  • Guard: Boogie Fland (FR) 6-2 175 lbs; 17 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 39% FG; 13% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Guard: Johnell Davis (SR) 6-4 210 lbs; 15 ppg; 6 reb; 58% FG; 25% 3pt; Florida Atlantic TR
  • Guard: DJ Wagner (SO) 6-4 195 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 100% FT; UK TR
  • Forward: Adou Thiero (JR) 6-8 220 lbs; 8 ppg; 4 reb; 3 st; 67% FG; UK TR
  • Forward: Zvonimir Ivisic (SO) 7-2 245 lbs; 12 ppg; 3 reb; 3 blks; 83% FG; 50% 3pt; 50% FT; UK TR

Arkansas Bench

  • Forward:  Trevon Brazille (JR) 6-10 230 lbs; 6 ppg; 8 reb; 2 st; 60% FG
  • Guard: Billy Richmond (FR) 6-5 205 lbs; 4 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 67% FG
  • Guard: Karter Knox (FR) 6-6 220 lbs; 5 ppg; 2 reb; 50% FG
  • Forward: Jonas Aidoo (SR) 6-11 240 lbs; 2 ppg; 3 reb; 50% FG; Tennessee TR

Baylor Starters

  • Guard: Jeremy Roach (SR) 6-2 180 lbs; 9 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 22% FG; 25% 3pt; 100% FT; Duke TR
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (SR) 6-4 190 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 38% FG
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (FR) 6-5 190 lbs; 4 ppg; 7 reb; 2 blks; 18% FG
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (SR) 6-7 245 lbs; 15 ppg; 9 reb; 42% FG; 71% FT; Miami TR
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (JR) 6-10 255 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 3 st; 100% FG; 57% FT

Baylor Bench

  • Guard: Langston Love (JR) 6-5 215 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 47% FG; 48% 3p; 78% FT (2023-24 stats)
  • Forward: Jalen Celestine (SR) 6-7 215 lbs; 6 ppg; 40% FG; 40% 3pt; Cal TR
  • Guard: Rob Wright (FR) 6-1 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 6 asst; 43% FG
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Gameday Thread: No. 8 Baylor (0-1) versus No. 16 Arkansas (1-0)

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BUCANDOIT82
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IowaBear
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Excellent 1st half! Finish strong Bears
BUCANDOIT82
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I hit the wrong button….Love the Zone…This team is special!
bear2be2
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Good sign that we took their blow to the stomach (their run) and bounced back and ended the half with our own run. That's the mark of a team that can become really good.
Agreed. Really nice first half all around.

We've got to finish this one off, though.
Quinton
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Much better. Offense is still out of sync but so many shot makers on this team can cover that up for now.. if/with Love we'll have a ton of offensive fire power. Don't love resorting to zone but its the thing Drew can teach. If we don't have the staff for man then going zone on a team that doesn't shoot great is fine for now. Josh rim protection has been a lot better. Disrupting and forcing guys to adjust their shot.

Roach and Nunn getting really comfortable. Hope VJ can get in sync. Is playing better but still in the background. Doesn't seem to feel comfortable with the offense. Outside of the press.. Wright reminds me of Chris Paul (no not nearly as good but play style), special skills and can get into the paint at will. Need a win.
Johnny Bear
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Letting arky back into it.
davesburgerbarn
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I know the season is early, but we don't seem to have good shooters.
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bear2be2
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davesburgerbarn said:

I know the season is early, but we don't seem to have good shooters.
I don't think this will be a problem long-term. We've got several guys with good track records from 3.

I'm more worried that we only have one distributor on our roster for the second, maybe third straight season. You don't get as many open looks when you don't have guys who can create for their teammates.

This is the second game in a row where our assists to made buckets ratio is really bad. That's got to be fixed if we're going to be a good team this year.
Big12Fan2024
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I don't know that we've ever had a big who moves as well off the ball on O as Norchad. For years I've watched guys stand around and not do anything when a ball handler is trapped. Norchad is the first to help in those situations. Just keep your eyes on him.

And not to mention he has the best hands of any big we've had.
bear2be2
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Edgecombe is a weird player because he's kind of a bull in a China closet, but he's so athletic that he makes a lot of energy plays.

Little he does is pretty, but I think he'll make a pretty big impact with his length and bounce.
bear2be2
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When good Nunn shows up, we're tough to beat. He's Jekyl and Hyde, but when he's good, he's really good.
bear2be2
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I love Norchad Omier. He's my favorite kind of big. That elite college interior player that may or may not have a pro career ahead of him.

I love skilled post players.
Big12Fan2024
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bear2be2 said:

I love Norchad Omier. He's my favorite kind of big. That elite college interior player that may or may not have a pro career ahead of him.

I love skilled post players.
To me he's the perfect guy I like to see NIL reward. May not ever make it in the NBA but just a great college basketball product to watch.
Big12Fan2024
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Just a gentle reminder. If Aidoo of Arkansas had agreed to accept our offer on his visit then we never would have gotten Norchad.
ao_sicem
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We struck gold with Norchad! Plus Aidoo looks average at best
Big12Fan2024
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For us to be as good as we can be and to win games like this when we have foul trouble Celestine has gotta step up and deliver on his 3 point shooting.
IowaBear
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Said all summer everyone would love Norchad. Dudes a man amongst boys
bear2be2
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Edgecombe needs to slow the hell down. He's so out of control sometimes.
Big12Fan2024
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The good thing about getting a Duke player is that you know they are good at getting charging calls against opponents.
bear2be2
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We've done a really nice job of answering every Arkansas run.

That's been nice to see.
gobears20
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Staff
Great point lolol
Quinton
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bear2be2 said:

Edgecombe is a weird player because he's kind of a bull in a China closet, but he's so athletic that he makes a lot of energy plays.

Little he does is pretty, but I think he'll make a pretty big impact with his length and bounce.


I hope he's going to be the opposite of our last few freshman. They started great and faded early. He'll build up from a slower start.
Big12Fan2024
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bear2be2 said:

Edgecombe needs to slow the hell down. He's so out of control sometimes.
Unfortunately I think he is what he is as it relates to control and we're just gonna have to get used to it. Not sure you become poised in one year although I'm sure it will improve some. The NBA rap sheet notes his issues with high, out of control dribbling and not so great outside shooting, but the overall out of the gym athleticism is what everyone notices first and forgets the former. And that athleticism is simply off the charts. He'll create some good opportunities for teammates during the year because he's gonna draw a lot of attention when he has the ball.
bear2be2
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Omier is too damn strong. That dude is a dude.
Big12Fan2024
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I'm in basketball love with Omier after just two games.
bear2be2
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Edgecombe doesn't need to be shooting seven 3s in a game.

We need to right size his usage/shot selection.
davesburgerbarn
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Edgecombe is way too wild for my liking.
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Quinton
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Vj could become an elite offensive rebounder. Best jumper in the country
Big12Fan2024
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Quinton said:

Vj could become an elite offensive rebounder. Best jumper in the country
Have we ever had anyone who had that much of a vertical leap?
davesburgerbarn
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His game reminds me of a more athletic Duece Bello. Dude couldn't hit the side of a barn. I hope that I end up being wrong.
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vanillabryce
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davesburgerbarn said:

His game reminds me of a more athletic Duece Bello. Dude couldn't hit the side of a barn. I hope that I end up being wrong.


Bello couldn't dribble either
Big12Fan2024
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Awesome bounce back from the Bears!

Now we've got the tire back on the bus!
ImABearToo
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Nice win Bears!!!
vanillabryce
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Huge win and bounce back!
ImABearToo
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Amoeba Zone works.
 
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