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Gameday Thread: Baylor Looks To Get Back In Win Column against Kansas State

January 21, 2025
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Baylor (11-6, 3-3) welcomes Kansas State (7-10, 1-5) to Foster Pavilion on Wednesday, Jan. 22, at 8 p.m. CST. The game will be televised on ESPNU.

Predictions

KenPom: Baylor 79, KSU 66

Torvik: Baylor 80, KSU 66

Evan Miyakawa: Baylor 79, KSU 66

Haslemetrics: Baylor 77, KSU 66

Coaches

KSU: Jerome Tang (58) 52-35; NCAAs; Sweet16; Elite 8

Baylor: Scott Drew (54); 477-261 overall (457-250 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 3-0 Tang

KSU Starters

  • Guard: Dug McDaniel (Jr.) 5-11 175 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 asst; 39% FG; 21% 3pt; 64% FT
  • Guard: Brendan Hausen (Jr.) 6-4 205 lbs; 12 ppg; 2 reb; 41% FG; 40% 3pt; 78% FT
  • Guard: Max Jones (Sr.) 6-4 220 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 39% FG; 36% 3pt; 75% FT
  • Forward: David N’Guessan (Sr.) 6-9 220 lbs; 13 ppg; 7 reb; 65% FG; 31% 3pt; 60% FT
  • Forward: Coleman Hawkins (Sr.) 6-10 235 lbs; 11 ppg; 7 reb; 4 asst; 41% FG; 31% 3pt; 58% FT

KSU Bench

  • Guard: David Castillo (Fr.) 6-1 180 lbs; 3 ppg; 22% FG; 24% 3pt; 85% FT
  • Forward: Ugonna Onyenso (Jr.) 7-0 250 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 75% FG; 67% FT
  • Forward: CJ Jones (Jr.) 6-5 195 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 asst; 42% FG; 39% 3pt; 70% FT

Baylor Starters

  • *Guard: Jeremy Roach (Sr.) 6-2 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 asst; 41% FG; 35% 3pt; 70% FT
  • Guard: Rob Wright (Fr.) 6-1 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 5 asst; 47% FG; 39% 3pt; 77% FT
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (Fr.) 6-5 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 2 st; 41% FG; 32% 3pt 71% FT
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (Sr.) 6-7 245 lbs; 16 ppg; 10 reb; 60% FG; 29% 3pt; 71% FT
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (Jr.) 6-10 255 lbs; 8 ppg; 7 reb; 77% FG; 63% FT

Baylor Bench

  • *Guard: Langston Love (Jr.) 6-5 215 lbs; 7 ppg; 3 reb; 36% FG; 29% 3pt; 75% FT 
  • Forward: Jalen Celestine (Sr.) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 39% FG; 39% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (Sr.) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 47% 3pt; 63% FT
  • Forward: Jason Asemota (FR) 6-8 200 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 32% FG; 21% 3pt; 33% FT

*questionable with injury*

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Gameday Thread: Baylor Looks To Get Back In Win Column against Kansas State

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IowaBear
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In reply to Quinton • 9:03p, 1/22/25
Respect your bb IQ but do honestly believe this BU team isn't bad itself? KSU absolutely sucks and we're in a dogfight.
There's no data to support Baylor is any good whatsoever this year. I've went from hoping for a top 6 seed to hoping we make the tournament to hoping we end with a winning record in 2 weeks. I hope I'm dead wrong but this team looks like crap
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9:08p, 1/22/25
It's fairly simple in the 2nd half. Either Omier takes over this game or else we're headed on a tumble down the conference standings.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 9:11p, 1/22/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
It's fairly simple in the 2nd half. Either Omier takes over this game or else we're headed on a tumble down the conference standings.
Well, dreadful start to the half so far.

I want to blame this team's lack of motor/urgency, but I think the truth is more depressing. This team just sucks.
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9:12p, 1/22/25
Send a message. Empty the bench.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:12p, 1/22/25
Unfortunately I'm afraid you are correct.
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In reply to PaperBear89 • 9:12p, 1/22/25
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Send a message. Empty the bench.
At this point, I'm OK with that.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:14p, 1/22/25
Pull from the stands. Gotta be some intramural guys in student section that could make a difference.
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9:16p, 1/22/25
Would love for Drew to just 1 damm time lay into these guys… see how they respond. Because being a cheerleader sure as **** isn't working with this group
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9:17p, 1/22/25
Shooting under 25% FG.
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9:17p, 1/22/25
It doesn't get much lower than getting your ass kicked at home by a terrible K-State team.
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9:18p, 1/22/25
Tang absolutely owns drew and I'm still trying to figure out what that means.
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9:19p, 1/22/25
I'm at the game and no wonder how terrible this team is the energy here shows.
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9:19p, 1/22/25
Really curious to hear the sunshine pumpers explain this… you know who you are. Defend this garbage
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In reply to IvanBear • 9:19p, 1/22/25
Tang does more with less.
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9:20p, 1/22/25
I remember the Arizona thread with some saying don't worry about that performance, we were entering the easy part of our schedule with a couple of easy wins coming up at home and then 2 more on the road (Utah and BYU).
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In reply to IvanBear • 9:20p, 1/22/25
IvanBear said:
Tang absolutely owns drew and I'm still trying to figure out what that means.

It means JT was the secret sauce. The bad cop. The fire guy. He was Drew's Joey Mcguire.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 9:21p, 1/22/25
This is the easy part.. that's the scary part. This team isn't sniffing the NCAAs. And that's absolutely pathetic in this day and age.
Think and hope it'll lead to a complete reset which may also hurt next year. Which I'm ok with
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9:22p, 1/22/25
Embarrassing if we make the NITs this year...
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9:22p, 1/22/25
Go baseball!
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In reply to ImABearToo • 9:24p, 1/22/25
Baseball is going to suck too… softball is your best hope if a decent team this summer
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In reply to IvanBear • 9:24p, 1/22/25
IvanBear said:
Tang absolutely owns drew and I'm still trying to figure out what that means.

Yep - he's 0'fer against Tang and barring a miracle that's going to continue. We can't even beat Tang at home when Tang has a terrible team. Pathetic.
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:25p, 1/22/25
Go Track & Field?
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:26p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
Really curious to hear the sunshine pumpers explain this… you know who you are. Defend this garbage


I got harpooned for suggesting that Drew was best at recruiting and often relied on his offensive and defensive coordinators (ex: MacCasland and Tang) to lead the charge with X's O's. No one is jumping off the Drew wagon. He's still learning NIL and portal. I still say we win by 10 tonight!
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In reply to BU82EX • 9:27p, 1/22/25
Oh I'm not jumping of the Drew wagon. I just find it funny that the usual suspects don't show during loses or games like this. But they sure as **** show up to lecture when we beat powerhouses like Utah or Cincy.
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9:28p, 1/22/25
I'm not sure we've had two good offensive possessions in a row this entire game.

Our inability to create offense is embarrassing.
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9:30p, 1/22/25
8/25 from 3. Why is a team this bad at the 3 ball continually allowed to chuck brick after brick after brick
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9:30p, 1/22/25
Apparently that great game Josh O had against AZ State was an outlier. Since then he's back to looking like Flo 2.0 again.
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9:31p, 1/22/25
This team is really hard to watch.
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:31p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
8/25 from 3. Why is a team this bad at the 3 ball continually allowed to chuck brick after brick after brick
Probably because we're 5 of 22 from inside the arc tonight. We can't score from anywhere on the court.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:31p, 1/22/25
As I keep saying on repeat -- offense looks like a pickup team comprised of 5 randos at the Y and has for most of the year. No creation. No real structure. Just toss it a couple of times and then jack it up.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 9:33p, 1/22/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
As I keep saying on repeat -- offense looks like a pickup team comprised of 5 randos at the Y and has for most of the year. No creation. No real structure. Just toss it a couple of times and then jack it up.
That's the downside to Scott Drew's offense. If you don't have guards that can penetrate, it looks like absolute ***** Because we don't run sets. There is no real structure.

Fortunately, we usually have really good guards. That's just not the case this year.
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9:33p, 1/22/25
I told myself after the TCU loss we'd come out fired up against KSU and save a 7 or 8 seed… we are seedless… we have no seeds
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9:35p, 1/22/25
Aggressive VJ is a great VJ.
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9:36p, 1/22/25
VJ edgecombe is at his best attacking the rim. Wish he would do that more
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:36p, 1/22/25
Because we're apparently worse at layups
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