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Gameday Thread: Baylor Looks To Get Back In Win Column against Kansas State

January 21, 2025
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Baylor (11-6, 3-3) welcomes Kansas State (7-10, 1-5) to Foster Pavilion on Wednesday, Jan. 22, at 8 p.m. CST. The game will be televised on ESPNU.

Predictions

KenPom: Baylor 79, KSU 66

Torvik: Baylor 80, KSU 66

Evan Miyakawa: Baylor 79, KSU 66

Haslemetrics: Baylor 77, KSU 66

Coaches

KSU: Jerome Tang (58) 52-35; NCAAs; Sweet16; Elite 8

Baylor: Scott Drew (54); 477-261 overall (457-250 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 3-0 Tang

KSU Starters

  • Guard: Dug McDaniel (Jr.) 5-11 175 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 asst; 39% FG; 21% 3pt; 64% FT
  • Guard: Brendan Hausen (Jr.) 6-4 205 lbs; 12 ppg; 2 reb; 41% FG; 40% 3pt; 78% FT
  • Guard: Max Jones (Sr.) 6-4 220 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 39% FG; 36% 3pt; 75% FT
  • Forward: David N’Guessan (Sr.) 6-9 220 lbs; 13 ppg; 7 reb; 65% FG; 31% 3pt; 60% FT
  • Forward: Coleman Hawkins (Sr.) 6-10 235 lbs; 11 ppg; 7 reb; 4 asst; 41% FG; 31% 3pt; 58% FT

KSU Bench

  • Guard: David Castillo (Fr.) 6-1 180 lbs; 3 ppg; 22% FG; 24% 3pt; 85% FT
  • Forward: Ugonna Onyenso (Jr.) 7-0 250 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 75% FG; 67% FT
  • Forward: CJ Jones (Jr.) 6-5 195 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 asst; 42% FG; 39% 3pt; 70% FT

Baylor Starters

  • *Guard: Jeremy Roach (Sr.) 6-2 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 asst; 41% FG; 35% 3pt; 70% FT
  • Guard: Rob Wright (Fr.) 6-1 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 5 asst; 47% FG; 39% 3pt; 77% FT
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (Fr.) 6-5 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 2 st; 41% FG; 32% 3pt 71% FT
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (Sr.) 6-7 245 lbs; 16 ppg; 10 reb; 60% FG; 29% 3pt; 71% FT
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (Jr.) 6-10 255 lbs; 8 ppg; 7 reb; 77% FG; 63% FT

Baylor Bench

  • *Guard: Langston Love (Jr.) 6-5 215 lbs; 7 ppg; 3 reb; 36% FG; 29% 3pt; 75% FT 
  • Forward: Jalen Celestine (Sr.) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 39% FG; 39% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (Sr.) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 41% FG; 47% 3pt; 63% FT
  • Forward: Jason Asemota (FR) 6-8 200 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 32% FG; 21% 3pt; 33% FT

*questionable with injury*

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Gameday Thread: Baylor Looks To Get Back In Win Column against Kansas State

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CarmelBear
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10:16p, 1/22/25
VJ is a lot of fun to watch. So glad he's a Bear.
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10:18p, 1/22/25
Drew has his first win over Tang!


Way to put the team on your back and carry it in the 2nd half, VJ!
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In reply to bear2be2 • 10:18p, 1/22/25
Gonna need good game from Norchad and Josh Saturday in Utah. Very very winnable game. Get that 1 and the TCU game is a wash. Missed opportunity for sure but still a wash
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10:18p, 1/22/25
Gutsy win. It wasn't pretty, but I'll take it.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 10:19p, 1/22/25
An ugly win beats a pretty loss any day of the week
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:19p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
An ugly win beats a pretty loss any day of the week
No doubt. And if this helps Edgecombe and Celestine become the players we need them to be down the stretch, it will be a really good win.
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10:22p, 1/22/25
Edgecombe looking like the player he was billed to be in the second half. Helped that we were playing the second weakest team in the conference at home, but it was still impressive.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:23p, 1/22/25
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league
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In reply to BU82EX • 10:23p, 1/22/25
BU82EX said:
IowaBear said:
Really curious to hear the sunshine pumpers explain this… you know who you are. Defend this garbage


No one is jumping off the Drew wagon. He's still learning NIL and portal. I still say we win by 10 tonight!


You almost nailed it...
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10:24p, 1/22/25
For the record the entire team stayed on the court for playing of that Good Ol' Baylor Line.
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:26p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league
Utah or Colorado. Those teams are both worse than K-State IMO.

The fact that Utah has three Big 12 wins is an indictment on the league this season. That's a terrible basketball team.
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:26p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league

Utah.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:27p, 1/22/25
Utahs 3-4 in league play
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10:27p, 1/22/25
Good comeback by the Bears. A loss tonight would have been a killer. I hope VJ plays with that same intensity moving forward. And WTH is wrong with Love? His ankle sprain has lasted 2 years.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 10:28p, 1/22/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
For the record the entire team stayed on the court for playing of that Good Ol' Baylor Line.


What's the saying...winning is a great deodorant
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:29p, 1/22/25
IowaBear said:
Utahs 3-4 in league play
And they've gotten blown out literally every time they've played a team with a winning Big 12 record.

K-State has looked more competent against the same opponents. Neither team is good, though, obviously.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 10:31p, 1/22/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
For the record the entire team stayed on the court for playing of that Good Ol' Baylor Line.
Mrs. Teague shamed their asses.
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10:37p, 1/22/25
W
I don't feel tardy
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In reply to bear2be2 • 10:38p, 1/22/25
bear2be2 said:
IowaBear said:
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league
Utah or Colorado. Those teams are both worse than K-State IMO.

The fact that Utah has three Big 12 wins is an indictment on the league this season. That's a terrible basketball team.

The bottom half of the league is unusually bad this season - by B12 standards.
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10:39p, 1/22/25
Keys moving forward:

Keep the zone defense

VJ keep driving

Omier keep the offense around the rim unless we're up and he's wide open

I'd like to see Nunn take more shots and find his mojo again

If Celestine is open keep feeding him the ball
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10:42p, 1/22/25
VJ and Celestine went 13-21. Rest of the team was 8-35.
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In reply to boykin_spaniel • 10:43p, 1/22/25
boykin_spaniel said:
Keys moving forward:

I'd like to see Nunn take more shots and find his mojo again


Yep...Nunn is having the best 3 point shooting season of his career. Got to get him more looks.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:55p, 1/22/25
Johnny Bear said:
IowaBear said:
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league

Utah.


Utah?

Colorado is 0-7 and unbearable to watch. Utah is a game behind us.
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11:02p, 1/22/25
Carry game by Vj and to a lesser extent Celestine (not defense). Those two and the fact that K state is terrible is the only way they win that game. Glad Vj seems to be playing mad. Much better when attacking.
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In reply to IowaBear • 11:04p, 1/22/25
They've been pretty bad, I can't deny that.
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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 11:14p, 1/22/25
I like his fire. Which is concerning to me that the staff alluded to attitude earlier in the year. Wires crossed maybe but I hope we're not actively discouraging guys from getting intense.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 11:17p, 1/22/25
bear2be2 said:
Stop leaving Hausen open. Did we learn nothing from the TCU loss?

Maybe try guarding the other team's best 3-point shooter.


Crazy bc K state has barely a speck of playmaking ability and they still managed to constantly leave a designated spot up shooter open.
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 11:18p, 1/22/25
Stefano DiMera said:
Johnny Bear said:
IowaBear said:
Who's the weakest? This KSU squad is the worse team in the league

Utah.


Utah?

Colorado is 0-7 and unbearable to watch. Utah is a game behind us.
Utah has lost to Baylor, Tech, Iowa State and Houston by an average of 27.5 points. They're awful. Their three Big 12 wins say more about this year's Big 12 than they do Utah.
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11:24p, 1/22/25
I only watched 2nd half. Maybe my favorite thing about the win is that we ditched that stupid JV high school weave play…
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In reply to bear2be2 • 11:38p, 1/22/25
I don't think they're awful..they're very offensively challenged.

They've played quite a bit of the top half of conference. They drilled OkSt which Colorado lost to. They beat TCU who we lost to.

When you're 0-7 like Colorado you're awful.. that's enough sample size to make that judgement.
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 11:47p, 1/22/25
Stefano DiMera said:
I don't think they're awful..they're very offensively challenged.

They've played quite a bit of the top half of conference. They drilled OkSt which Colorado lost to. They beat TCU who we lost to.

When you're 0-7 like Colorado you're awful.. that's enough sample size to make that judgement.
I think Colorado is the worst, with Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Utah all competing for the mantle of second-worst. But Utah is a really bad basketball team. They're 1-5 in QUAD 1 games and 1-1 in QUAD 2 games.

They played an absolutely awful nonconference schedule and still lost three games before Big 12 play. And they've gotten dog-walked by every decent team they've played in conference. That we lost to TCU, who everyone acknowledged before and after our loss is a bad team, doesn't change that.
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8:01a, 1/23/25
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10:12a, 1/23/25
Love the resilience in the comeback, but looking at the box score shows the abysmal failure our roster building has been. We had 7 players take the floor ... 5 of them playing an average of 34 minutes. We have spent way too much on sexy and not enough on hungry, fundamentally sound players who can give 5-7 quality minutes at all positions. As it's built right now is not sustainable against quality competition and road officiating.
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In reply to PaperBear89 • 10:16a, 1/23/25
In fairness they played on Love being healthy. As well as Roach. If we ever get healthy will have decent guard depth at least. But judging by Ashley's podcast I seriously doubt we see LL this year. He said something like they hope to have him by mid February
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