Dylan Mingo Crystal Ball

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https://www.on3.com/rivals/news/dylan-mingo-sets-commitment-date-baylor-north-carolina-penn-state-washington/
Quinton
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Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.

WA Jim
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Crystal Ball to Baylor while wearing North Carolina gear….hilarious
Mitch Henessey
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Quinton said:

Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.

What are you basing your comment on that this could be some of Drew's final years? He's given no indication that he's slowing down. In fact, he said that he was looking forward to coaching in the post-House Settlement era.
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Just saw this:

After it was reported Saturday that five-star guard Dylan Mingo of Long Island Lutheran would announce his college decision on Thursday, Mingo updated his timeline to ZAGSBLOG.

"Just got pushed back a bit," Mingo said.

He is not expected to announce Thursday, and it remains unclear when he will declare.
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Quinton
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Mitch Henessey said:

Quinton said:

Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.


What are you basing your comment on that this could be some of Drew's final years? He's given no indication that he's slowing down. In fact, he said that he was looking forward to coaching in the post-House Settlement era.

I hope you're right. I don't feel strongly about it but just based on some comments and side reporting over the last few years. Again, hope he's here for 10 more.. would love to see him get it turned around.
Stefano DiMera
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During the Kentucky flirtation there were some 5-7 years numbers thrown around.

30 years in one place is a LONG time. I could see that being the finish line for him.. if not sooner.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Quinton said:

Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.

What are you basing your comment on that this could be some of Drew's final years? He's given no indication that he's slowing down. In fact, he said that he was looking forward to coaching in the post-House Settlement era.


The owner of this website (Ashley Hodge) when Drew was considering Kentucky but decided to stay at Baylor reported that he only expects Drew to hang around 5 or so more years before retirement. That puts Drew approximately 3 years away from that estimate.
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IvanBear said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Quinton said:

Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.


What are you basing your comment on that this could be some of Drew's final years? He's given no indication that he's slowing down. In fact, he said that he was looking forward to coaching in the post-House Settlement era.


The owner of this website (Ashley Hodge) when Drew was considering Kentucky but decided to stay at Baylor reported that he only expects Drew to hang around 5 or so more years before retirement. That puts Drew approximately 3 years away from that estimate.

I remember the comment but I remember it more as an assumption made by Ashley than a firm admission stated by Drew. At any rate, a lot of folks look at retirement as something they may look at 3-5 years down the road but aren't thinking about it right now.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
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Mitch Henessey said:

Quinton said:

Pretty much another guaranteed 1 and done.. rated anywhere from #7 to #2 in the class. Drew is among the best of the best recruiters in the country.. nobody denies that.

AD Doug needs to go all in on next year and the following year with portal. Coincides with what could be some of Drew's final years. Need a combination of continuity and talent to have any chance of turning this around.

What are you basing your comment on that this could be some of Drew's final years? He's given no indication that he's slowing down. In fact, he said that he was looking forward to coaching in the post-House Settlement era.


Drew ain't going anywhere. Got a lifetime contract after winning the Natty. Makes $4m plus a year, has as many coaches as players he rosters, just got Linda and the Board to sign off on the new AD who worked for him years ago so he won't worry about any pressure.

Dude ain't going anywhere. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Early retirement might be sounding pretty good to him after tonight…
BUAL
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If he retires sure but my worry will always be if Indiana or Arizona opens up because of family. Az isnt opening up and nobody is back in Indiana now from his family so I think our biggest competitor is the media or something like that.
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BUAL said:

If he retires sure but my worry will always be if Indiana or Arizona opens up because of family. Az isnt opening up and nobody is back in Indiana now from his family so I think our biggest competitor is the media or something like that.

What's the big fear of one of those schools poaching him? That we'll suck. Well, we already suck and seem to have no discernible plan to fix that.

I love Scott Drew and respect and appreciate all he's done for our university's basketball program. He's a legend who will have a well-earned statue in front of Foster Pavilion one day. But nothing lasts forever. And after the last two years (really the last four, but I'll never take 23- and 24-win seasons for granted), it's starting to look more and more like his magic at Baylor has run out.

Barring an absolute multi-year collapse, I would never suggest firing him. But it wouldn't be the end of the world IMO if he decides to go finish his career elsewhere with a new challenge. Things feel really, really stale in Waco right now.
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CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.
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Stefano DiMera said:

During the Kentucky flirtation there were some 5-7 years numbers thrown around.

30 years in one place is a LONG time. I could see that being the finish line for him.. if not sooner.


I bet he wishes hed taken that Kentucky job after the evisceration of the Baylor athletics dept by the Baylor leadership.
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Fre3dombear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

During the Kentucky flirtation there were some 5-7 years numbers thrown around.

30 years in one place is a LONG time. I could see that being the finish line for him.. if not sooner.


I bet he wishes hed taken that Kentucky job after the evisceration of the Baylor athletics dept by the Baylor leadership.
He's had near complete autonomy of his program. This program is in the shape it's in currently because of the decisions he's made, not anyone else.
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Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.
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This is the key. I doubt there's a single poster on here who doesn't love CSD. How could you not? That said, BU is trending the way they are because of Scott's decisions. Drew has earned a good while to turn this around. But he's not untouchable and never should be. Drew deserves infinite credit for what he's done at BU. He's also deserving of some criticism for the programs fall the last 3 years.
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Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Kudos. He took on a challenge - and got a natty in Men's BB. But that doesn't give someone a free pass for their entire life - - - not at +$5M a year in salary and over abundance of resources to be mediocre....

Results oriented business....
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bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success had earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.

and I don't see Dougie as a guy who will make that tough decision - - - because it's coming soon when he is going to have that conversation.
Ewalker80
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bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

bear2be2
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Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.
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bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.
It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.
bear2be2
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Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.
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bear2be2 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.
I know you're not. I don't have any answers right now, either. Hopefully something magically clicks, starting tonight.
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Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.


Sadly, tonight's TCU occurrence was anything but unlikely.
BUBradley
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So is Mingo a sure thing still now that he delayed his announcement?
Quinton
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Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

How many years are you comfortable with the defense being terrible? Year 4 of that.

Next year is going to be a defining year. Many of the teams in this league have been good the last few years off of guys they've had for 3 years now. Several don't have the obvious quality behind them so next year is a real opportunity.

He has to go all in now with Doug.. get a real GM.. and scout the entire country starting yesterday. Get proven, experienced junior transfers and pull a Sampson and retain one of Tounde / Carr.. then you might have something.

Time is ticking
TWD 1974
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bear2be2 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
Mitch Henessey
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Quinton said:

Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

How many years are you comfortable with the defense being terrible? Year 4 of that.

Next year is going to be a defining year. Many of the teams in this league have been good the last few years off of guys they've had for 3 years now. Several don't have the obvious quality behind them so next year is a real opportunity.

He has to go all in now with Doug.. get a real GM.. and scout the entire country starting yesterday. Get proven, experienced junior transfers and pull a Sampson and retain one of Tounde / Carr.. then you might have something.

Time is ticking
Next year. If it's not better then, I'm going to have serious issues. Drew gets a pass this year, but it's against my better judgement to do so.
Big12Fan2024
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Agree with that. Drew needs to take a long hard look at his roster strategy of the past few years and an even longer look at his assistant coaching and support staffs and ask himself if he truly has the correct people in the places he needs to be elite, not just good. And given the exasperated facial expressions I've noticed on him in the last few interviews, I am confident he is finally going to do that.
Ewalker80
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Drew's entire strength is building a strong culture, but that has been trumped by money. He has got to find a way to keep guys around longer so he can develop them Maybe we only do 3 year contracts for players unless they are the one and done guy for the year. I'm not aware of any reason we can't do it, other than the market, but it would be way worth it to pay a little more for lesser players that can stay around develop care about Baylor and be an actual basketball program again. Go find the next Flagler Teague Freddie etc and get a few developmental guys from high school and overseas. One year contracts do not work for us.
GruntTuff
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I wonder if Tang gets fired he would come back?
bear2be2
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TWD 1974 said:

bear2be2 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Ewalker80 said:

CSD has achieved the greatest accomplishment in Baylor sports history

CSD built a program into a national power from a lower point than perhaps anyone in history has done.

CSD's program embodies what Baylor tries to be.

CSD can stay for life. Period.


Drew's success has earned him a long leash. It hasn't earned him an infinite one. No coach is bigger than the program they lead.

College athletics have never been more transactional than they are today. If (God forbid) this season becomes the norm going forward, it will be time to move on.

Successful coaches are compensated exceptionally well. The right to destroy the programs they built shouldn't be part of that compensation package.


Not to argue semantics, but absent occurrences so unlikely they aren't worth taking time discussing, CSD has a lifetime ticket. Of course we can conceive of very low chance events like scandal or illness or punching the AD or something, but I'm talking about the range of events that are in 95 percent likelihood zone for this actual person we have observed for 25 years. For example having a handful of disappointing seasons isn't going to do it. I believe Baylor will treat him like the legend he is.

Missing the tournament two or three years in a row isn't so unlikely as not to be worth discussing.

This program is an absolute mess right now.

It's not pretty right now, but how many times have we written off Drew, only for him to reinvent himself and his playing style?

This is effectively Year 2 for me, since the rules of engagement have changed so much. If it's this bad next year, I'll start getting concerned.

I'm not writing Drew off. I'm saying he has two more years to fix this *****

Because this team is little better (competitively not culturally) than Dave Bliss' teams. And if we're back to that level, it's time for a new voice.

I agree with the 2-year window: I can't see Drew staying beyond that if it's not turning around. As to comparisons with the Bliss era, though, the Dave Bliss era never produced a 20-win season, or a post season win of any kind, or anything close to .500 in the Big 12. His best conference win total was 6. While we look upon last year's team as a downturn, the 10 conference wins, and 20-15, record, if compared to results prior to Drew, would be the best year since the Iba big year 40 years ago.

Bliss made the NIT in 2000-01. We won 19 games that year -- six in the Big 12.

I don't think we'll hit either of those marks this season, unfortunately, even with two extra conference games.
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