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MBB: #25 Baylor (4-0) vs Creighton (4-0) Preview & Game Thread

November 21, 2017
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#25 Baylor (4-0) takes on Creighton (4-0) in the championship game of the CBE Tournament in Kansas City, MO on Tuesday, November 21st around 9pm CST.  The game is televised on ESPN2.  Here is a look at the match-up.  

KenPom Rankings

Creighton:  36 overall; 13 offensive efficiency; 68 defensive efficiency

Baylor:  21 overall; 17 offensive efficiency; 25 defensive efficiency

Prediction:  Baylor 78 Creighton 76

Coaches

Creighton:  Greg McDermott (52); 449-276 overall (170-92 at Creighton); 7 NCAAs

Baylor:  Scott Drew (47); 303-190 overall (283-179 at Baylor); 7 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s

Creighton Starting Line-Up

PG:  Khyri Thomas (JR) 6-3 210 lbs; 17 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 61% FG; 54% 3pt; 80% FT

SG:  Marcus Foster (SR); 6-3 205 lbs; 20 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 55% FG; 50% 3pt; 80% FT

SF:  Davion Mintz (JR); 6-3 180 lbs; 7 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 54% FG; 75% 3pt; 67% FT

PF:  Ronnie Harrell (JR); 6-7 200 lbs; 6 ppg; 8 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 25% 3pt; 60% FT

C:  Martin Krampelj (SO) 6-9 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 8 reb; 62% FG; 50% 3pt; 70% FT

Creighton Bench

F:  Manny Suarez (SR); 6-10 250 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 49% FG; 33% 3pt; 50% FT

G:  Ty-shon Alexander (FR) 6-4 195 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 asst; 49% FG; 41% 3pt; 83% FT

G:  Mitch Ballock (FR) 6-5 205 lbs; 12 ppg; 55% FG; 44% 3pt; 100% FT

Baylor Starting Line-up

PG:  Manu Lecomte (SR) 5-11 180 lbs; 22 ppg; 4 asst; 44% FG; 48% 3pt; 94% FT

SG:  King McClure (JR) 6-3 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 36% FG; 42% 3pt; 58% FT

SF:  Nuni Omot (SR) 6-9 210 lbs; 8 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 41% FG; 32% 3pt; 83% FT

PF:  Tristan Clark (FR) 6-9 240 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 62% FG; 40% FT

C:  Jo Lual-Acuil (SR) 7-0 220 lbs; 14 ppg; 10 reb; 1 blk; 48% FG; 60% FT; 67% 3pt

Baylor Bench

G:  Jake Lindsey (JR) 6-5 195 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 5 asst; 43% FG; 29% 3pt; 50% FT

F:  Terry Maston (SR) 6-8 230 lbs; 10 ppg; 9 reb; 64% FG; 50% FT

F:  Mark Vital (RFR) 6-5 230 lbs; 6 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 57% FG; 64% FT

G:  Tyson Jolly (RFR) 6-5 190 lbs; first season (out until December)

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MBB: #25 Baylor (4-0) vs Creighton (4-0) Preview & Game Thread

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In reply to rudylaw • 9:31p, 11/21/17
Nah, McClure has had a slow start to the year but he's a capable perimeter scorer. Something does seem off with him but I guarantee you he is our 2nd best complete scorer and shooter behind Lecomte. He's just gotta snap out of this funk
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9:33p, 11/21/17
Vital's skill set is... energy? He's got a rough stroke from the line.
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In reply to bhard315 • 9:34p, 11/21/17
Don't know why people keep riding King.

Outside of a few games, he's shown nothing. Pretty big bust if you ask me. I've been saying this for a long time
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9:34p, 11/21/17
Y'all react too strongly to stretches of bad basketball. These are kids out there. They make mistakes. They're not perfect. Creighton has come out pumped up, swarming on defense and playing with a ton more energy. We just gotta wake up.
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9:34p, 11/21/17
At least we seem to be evenly spreading around the ability to make a turnover. We have thst going for us.
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9:35p, 11/21/17
We're getting nothing from any of the back court so far. When is McClure going to show up?
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:35p, 11/21/17
hoping we don't have another deuce bello. Attitude seems to be a much better anyway
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9:35p, 11/21/17
Where did Al Freeman end up?
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9:36p, 11/21/17
Like last year, when Manu is matched up against a bigger defender, he's easily neutralized. If King could score, perhaps Creighton would focus on him but since he can't, Manu is in jail.
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:36p, 11/21/17
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 9:37p, 11/21/17
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hoping we don't have another deuce bello. Attitude seems to be a much better anyway
If you're referring to Vital, I was wondering the same thing.
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In reply to BaylorOkie • 9:37p, 11/21/17
BaylorOkie said:
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
Yep and then Chuck screwed us.
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In reply to BellCountyBear • 9:37p, 11/21/17
BellCountyBear said:
Where did Al Freeman end up?

NC State
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In reply to EGOTbear • 9:38p, 11/21/17
Fair assessment. I've seen what he can do up close and believe that maybe the light bulb hasn't completely come on yet. He's still got 2 seasons, but it might never completely come on. Some guys, even high rated recruits don't completely adjust to the D1 speed of the game. I just choose to try to be optimistic and root for him just like I do every individual that comes through this program.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 9:38p, 11/21/17
EGOTbear said:
hoping we don't have another deuce bello. Attitude seems to be a much better anyway
Was gonna say he's more of a Walton/Dennis hybrid.
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In reply to bhard315 • 9:39p, 11/21/17
bhard315 said:
Y'all react too strongly to stretches of bad basketball. These are kids out there. They make mistakes. They're not perfect. Creighton has come out pumped up, swarming on defense and playing with a ton more energy. We just gotta wake up.

Well you hope we come to play. But being passive on defense can be an issue.

Game threads are tough on players. Baylorfans was tough on Lomers, Ellis, and AJ in all threads. Freeman had an initial honeymoon period then was killed during slumps.
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:39p, 11/21/17
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Vital's skill set is... energy? He's got a rough stroke from the line.
We nicknamed him the Tasmanian Devil. He has a tremendous amount of energy, stirs up a ton of dirt, is moving at all times, but you look at the stat box and there's nothing there.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 9:39p, 11/21/17
Vital already seems to have developed better ball handling skills than Deuce ever did. Dribble still needs work but his passing has already exceeded expectations for his redshirt freshman year
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9:39p, 11/21/17
Getting ugly...
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9:40p, 11/21/17
Jo just looks terrific though. Amazing improvement.
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In reply to BaylorOkie • 9:41p, 11/21/17
BaylorOkie said:
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
His shooting slump was deep last year, but fans were too tough on BF.
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9:41p, 11/21/17
King shows that though. He's willing to drive which is a great asset.
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9:42p, 11/21/17
Manu having a crappy night!!!
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9:42p, 11/21/17
Drew and his staff have certainly developed other bigs, but Jo (even with his faults) has looked eons better this year so far. Much more aggressive with the ball.
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In reply to NoBSU • 9:42p, 11/21/17
NoBSU said:
BaylorOkie said:
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
His shooting slump was deep last year, but fans were too tough on BF.
He was DNP'd several times for attitude though. That's when the worm turned IIRC. Then, he played well in March for a few games.
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In reply to NoBSU • 9:43p, 11/21/17
NoBSU said:
BaylorOkie said:
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
His shooting slump was deep last year, but fans were too tough on BF.
Agree.
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9:43p, 11/21/17
Kind of worrisome that Clark isn't involved... like, at all.
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9:43p, 11/21/17
Just no energy. We look like we're exhausted and just want to get the game over with.
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9:43p, 11/21/17
Manu horrible tonight. Love him, but man...Drew's short PGs....
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9:44p, 11/21/17
Manu's 65-footer the first open look he's had all night. Creighton passes the eye test.
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:45p, 11/21/17
rudylaw said:
NoBSU said:
BaylorOkie said:
rudylaw said:
King just doesn't look the look, does he?
Rewind several months when people weren't concerned about losing Freeman. Crazy.
His shooting slump was deep last year, but fans were too tough on BF.
He was DNP'd several times for attitude though. That's when the worm turned IIRC. Then, he played well in March for a few games.

^^^this^^^
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9:45p, 11/21/17
Is it just me or does Clark look extremely lethargic and flat footed on defense? I mean he's young but it seems he hasn't learned that sense of urgency on defense yet. He'll improve though. I like his potential.
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:46p, 11/21/17
rudylaw said:
Kind of worrisome that Clark isn't involved... like, at all.
Same as last night. It's clear that Drew is more comfortable with Maston against good competition right now.
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9:47p, 11/21/17
I headed up the Nuni train in the offseason. I was convinced this was gonna be a breakout year and we could count on him for 12-14 a night. It's still early in the year though so maybe his productivity will pick up by conference play.
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9:47p, 11/21/17
We can't win if Maston can't give us something in at least one half. Hopefully, the first half ticked a,couple of guys off.
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