Also-- It should be noted, the SEC has consistently had just two teams in the top 25 most of the season. Five of the Big 12 teams have seen a decent amount of time in the Top 25. Has anyone ever stopped to think that the brilliance of CKM's move may have been her reading the tea leaves in conference hires/recruiting?

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All the gloom and doom, down and out'ers and glass is half empty (and leaking) folks need to take a chill pill and let CNC's future play out. If we are not a Top 10-15 program in year 4 of her tenure then perhaps you might have something to complain about. I believe our MBB team is teetering in the Top 25. I guess Scott Drew sucks and our recruiting will start to suck, etc... Take a valium and call us in 1.5 years!

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Stop. Scott Drew has won a NC and that gets you a little leeway. Any way you look at it it's sad to see Baylor WBB out of the top 25 since 2004 and especially with what's going on in BR.

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BU82EX said:

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All the gloom and doom, down and out'ers and glass is half empty (and leaking) folks need to take a chill pill and let CNC's future play out. If we are not a Top 10-15 program in year 4 of her tenure then perhaps you might have something to complain about. I believe our MBB team is teetering in the Top 25. I guess Scott Drew sucks and our recruiting will start to suck, etc... Take a valium and call us in 1.5 years!

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Stop. Scott Drew has won a NC and that gets you a little leeway. Any way you look at it it's sad to see Baylor WBB out of the top 25 since 2004 and especially with what's going on in BR.

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Comparing WBB and MBB showcases your lack of understanding. They are apples and oranges. End of discussion. Period. CNC will be gone in 24 months, moving back with her family on the east coast. If not, then, then the admins have knowing pissed away the sport. Fact.

BU82EX said:

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All the gloom and doom, down and out'ers and glass is half empty (and leaking) folks need to take a chill pill and let CNC's future play out. If we are not a Top 10-15 program in year 4 of her tenure then perhaps you might have something to complain about. I believe our MBB team is teetering in the Top 25. I guess Scott Drew sucks and our recruiting will start to suck, etc... Take a valium and call us in 1.5 years!

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There is a MONUMENTAL difference between Scott Drew and Nicki Collen. Drew had to do a complete rebuild of a program that was a complete disaster and had no future ahead. As up and down as this season has been for the men's team, they are still talented and are vying for a national title like the one from two seasons ago.

CNC inherited a perennial championship contender and a program that had been to at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2009 and had been ranked since 2004. They are currently unraked and are a first or second-round exit.

While I think Mulkeyist are generally too pessimistic, it is not unfair to be critical of the sharp dropoff from the top this season.

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CNC is a great coach, but implementing a system that I think is too difficult for the many of the players we have at the moment. That's something that 3-4 years of recruiting her players can fix. If it's not fixed by year 4, then bring the doom and gloom.

Additionally, I think if she has made a mistake this year it was in the gamble she took signing Edwards, not knowing if Kentucky was going to sign off to let her play. That gamble not paying off, along with Blackwell's injury, is as much to blame for our woes this season as anything else.

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Agreed.

First, Mac Rhodes needs to enroll in a "Speech Class" ......they will teach him to quit using "you know, you know" continually...second apologize for loosing a Hall of Fame BB Coach to smelly Baton Rouge..That place is a toxic paradise...As a long time season ticket holder in FB and BB I am disgusted in his "extremely poor leadership".

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Coach Collen seems like a very nice person who gets along well with her players and co-workers from all accounts. She seems to care about her players and staff; she's a straight-shooter; she doesn't appear to make waves and she has a calm demeanor and doesn't seem to be prone to uncontrolled emotional outbursts. But just what is it that indicates that she is a great coach? What is it in her coaching record that makes you believe this?

The truth is, that at this time, she is not a great coach. She may one day be a great coach, but there is little doubt that ADMR hired her based on potential and WBB cultural factors, and there is nothing wrong with that. He rolled the dice knowing that in the grand scheme of things, whether or not BU WBB ever again achieved the pinnacle of college basketball success, it just wasn't going to be the dry hole that it had been allowed to become financially, nor the divisive catalyst within the department to which it had morphed. If those goals are accomplished and the program doesn't fall competitively to the bottom of the conference, I think that ADMR will consider the CNC hire to be a success.

Yes, unfortunately the gamble of taking Dre did not work out this year. However Nicki said Dre will play for Baylor next year. Her toughness and experience will definitely help the team then, especially since we will lose Caitlyn.

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A loss really brings out the posters who constantly bash Coach Nicki and compare us to LSU and discuss what could have been if Kim was still here.

If this team starts winning games, I bet you will not see one post from BaylorKid , Olympia3 and others. They only seem to show up when there is a loss…

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Last time I looked all fans just want wins and could care less about personality. We told you so and you are now swallowing on these posts supporting WINNERS like KIM

Regardless of how you felt about the past coach you must admit it's somewhat depressing to go to the ESPN WBB page and look at the little square on the right hand side that is entitled Top headlines, and right at the very top is "Baylor women not ranked for the first time since 2004". Geezus Lord that's 19 years in a row. Something was right. I was there for all of it and enjoyed the heck out of it. Now I'm just kinda back where I used to be 23 years ago. Just wandering around the basketball wilderness watching them all whenever I can and thank god for You Tube, TV, and ESPN+ I can watch virtually every game of UConn. LSU, & Iowa State. It's pretty good entertainment folks if you just like good pure WBB like I do.

Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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.., the "me first" control freak Kentucky coach refuses to sign Dre's waiver, ... .

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Shouldn't the gaining coach have known how the losing coach would respond? Don't count on a waiver, unless it is agreed upon in advance or maybe the gaining coach didn't count on a waiver.

All accounts are that she didn't count on it, and that she and Dre were both prepared for her to not be allowed to play, but they crossed their fingers.

Doesn't change the fact that the Kentucky coach's refusal to do what is not required, but widely considered to be a routine courtesy, reflects poor character on her part.

Bear3 said:

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.

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All accounts are that she didn't count on it, and that she and Dre were both prepared for her to not be allowed to play, but they crossed their fingers.

Doesn't change the fact that the Kentucky coach's refusal to do what is not required, but widely considered to be a routine courtesy, reflects poor character on her part.

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Well Said.
This is the only transfer request since the portal started that has not been granted - Men or Women !
This is the same coach that ran her mouth about the ALLEGED racist slur at BYU but has said nothing about the VERIFIED racist slur at Kentucky - She is a vindictive and petty person who may not win a conference game in the SEC this year. Karma is a "B" sometimes !!

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Bear3 said:

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.

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Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.

This board is populated by a bunch of incredibly stupid morons.

Mulkey left a huge mess. Collen is methodically cleaning up that mess.

3 inherited players remain after 1 year. 3! The inherited roster was a disaster.

Who are those 3?

A quality 5'6 point guard forced to play shooting guard because we have so few scorers.
A 5'7 point guard who is average.
A 6'0 player at center who plays hard but lacks P5 athleticism…….and is 6 foot tall.

What did Collen accomplish in 1 year to rebuild the roster?

got a high quality 6'1 player who is a great athlete.
got a high quality 6'2 player who is a solid threat from the 3
got a developmental 6'4 player
Signed another 6'5 player who appears to be quality and is playing high level HS basketball
Got two high quality transfers, one of who has been forced to sit due to Kentucky's gamesmanship and the other sidelined by injury.
Two other players…..might be misses.

Collen has a second chance at portal. Two more hits and the roster will be in far better shape.

What did Mulkey do? She inherited a full roster.
She was provided $250,000 in NIL $ to buy players. She bought Reese for $100,000 and a local #1 recruit for $100,000. Any idiot complaining about recruiting needs to write that $250,000 check or STFU.

This team can't play the style of D that Collen prefers because the starting lineup is 5'4, 5'6, 5'7, 6'1, 6'0.
We lack shooters. We lack size. We lack length. We lack athleticism.

Every single one of those problem areas is being addressed but it takes time.

Mulkey left a roster mess. Mulkey left broken relationships with multiple Summer Programs.

Keeping this team competitive while fixing the roster has been a solid achievement.
But you morons are too stupid to know it.
Too clueless to understand the mess.
Too busy worshipping your False Goddess.

Go back to your slug holes and leave the program building to the sane adults.

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Nothing I have said has taken away or criticized Nicki. I'm extremely critical of an incompetent Administration that lets winners leave or worse, fires them without cause.

I miss Art, Kaz, Kim, Rhule, McGuire, Tang and Bohanon . They all contributed with tremendous success to athletics. Kim was the only one standing tall with tears in her eyes defending the University when the WSJ fabrication created by the BOD was destroying the program.

She was smart enough to encourage her son to play elsewhere where they really had a passion for baseball and not join some lame assed coach.

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MrGolfguy said:

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Bear3 said:

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.

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Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.

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The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.

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She was smart enough to encourage her son to play elsewhere where they really had a passion for baseball and not join some lame assed coach.

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Steve Smith refused to recruit Mulkey's son after she publicly [in the hallway of the athletic department] demanded that funds allocated to the baseball program for a new pitching machine [a program bonus for making the College World Series] be redirected to her program.

Advocating for your program is acceptable and normal. Advocating against the budget of another coach's program never happens and is totally unacceptable.

Steve Smith had issues but telling Mulkey and her brat to pound sand was not one of those issues. Baylor should have kicked her ass into line at that point. Instead they fed the monster until it was too big and too horrible to control.

Facts matter.

Steve Smith was incompetent. Mulkey wasn't. If what you say about the budget is correct I'd be disappointed but I can accept bluster when it's deserved and I hate failure.

I wish he would have signed Kramer. And, yes Kramer is his name.. He has no reason to know your name, but you should know his.

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This board is populated by a bunch of incredibly stupid morons.

Mulkey left a huge mess. Collen is methodically cleaning up that mess.




3 inherited players remain after 1 year. 3! The inherited roster was a disaster.

Who are those 3?

A quality 5'6 point guard forced to play shooting guard because we have so few scorers.
A 5'7 point guard who is average.
A 6'0 player at center who plays hard but lacks P5 athleticism…….and is 6 foot tall.

What did Collen accomplish in 1 year to rebuild the roster?

got a high quality 6'1 player who is a great athlete.
got a high quality 6'2 player who is a solid threat from the 3
got a developmental 6'4 player
Signed another 6'5 player who appears to be quality and is playing high level HS basketball
Got two high quality transfers, one of who has been forced to sit due to Kentucky's gamesmanship and the other sidelined by injury.
Two other players…..might be misses.

Collen has a second chance at portal. Two more hits and the roster will be in far better shape.

What did Mulkey do? She inherited a full roster.
She was provided $250,000 in NIL $ to buy players. She bought Reese for $100,000 and a local #1 recruit for $100,000. Any idiot complaining about recruiting needs to write that $250,000 check or STFU.

This team can't play the style of D that Collen prefers because the starting lineup is 5'4, 5'6, 5'7, 6'1, 6'0.
We lack shooters. We lack size. We lack length. We lack athleticism.

Every single one of those problem areas is being addressed but it takes time.

Mulkey left a roster mess. Mulkey left broken relationships with multiple Summer Programs.

Keeping this team competitive while fixing the roster has been a solid achievement.
But you morons are too stupid to know it.
Too clueless to understand the mess.
Too busy worshipping your False Goddess.

Go back to your slug holes and leave the program building to the sane adults.

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Winners win. Losers make excuses. Keep making excuses it's what you do best.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blueeyedbear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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Bear3 said:

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.

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Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.

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The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.

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Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.

But, yet, she's managed to get what she needs at LSU, which she always managed to do at Baylor. For 20 years she brought in what she needs to and continues to do so. Carrington, Cooper, Jackson, her last three years. And they didn't come for NIL money, there wasn't any. Angel Reese this year. These players just don't pop up by accident. Why in the world would you think that would have stopped. She had two good players at LSU when she arrived, and she left Baylor the runner up national player of the year and Queen Egbo. who made the all rookie team. She would have brought in other top players too. She gets what she needs...and as she always has, she would have gotten it the last two years at Baylor

This isn't conjecture, it is based on her track record for 20 years.

blueeyedbear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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blueeyedbear said:

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MrGolfguy said:

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Bear3 said:

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Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.

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Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.

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Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.

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The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.

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Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.

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How has the top 8 players that get any significant playing time at LSU been brought in by KM in the last 2 years either thru grad transfer or HS recruiting which has that team at #3 in the nation? How did that happen and if you want to bet against KM losing at any level then please show evidence of it because it has never happened since she laced up a pair of Converse shoes 50 plus years ago. Her track record of winning speaks for itself. I have no problem with KM leaving but to think BU would suddenly fall to the bottom of the Big 12 is true fantasy land territory. She's wins it's what she does and has always done. She might be the biggest B in the world but she wins that's for damn sure.

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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This board is populated by a bunch of incredibly stupid morons.

Mulkey left a huge mess. Collen is methodically cleaning up that mess.




3 inherited players remain after 1 year. 3! The inherited roster was a disaster.

Who are those 3?

A quality 5'6 point guard forced to play shooting guard because we have so few scorers.
A 5'7 point guard who is average.
A 6'0 player at center who plays hard but lacks P5 athleticism…….and is 6 foot tall.

What did Collen accomplish in 1 year to rebuild the roster?

got a high quality 6'1 player who is a great athlete.
got a high quality 6'2 player who is a solid threat from the 3
got a developmental 6'4 player
Signed another 6'5 player who appears to be quality and is playing high level HS basketball
Got two high quality transfers, one of who has been forced to sit due to Kentucky's gamesmanship and the other sidelined by injury.
Two other players…..might be misses.

Collen has a second chance at portal. Two more hits and the roster will be in far better shape.

What did Mulkey do? She inherited a full roster.
She was provided $250,000 in NIL $ to buy players. She bought Reese for $100,000 and a local #1 recruit for $100,000. Any idiot complaining about recruiting needs to write that $250,000 check or STFU.

This team can't play the style of D that Collen prefers because the starting lineup is 5'4, 5'6, 5'7, 6'1, 6'0.
We lack shooters. We lack size. We lack length. We lack athleticism.

Every single one of those problem areas is being addressed but it takes time.

Mulkey left a roster mess. Mulkey left broken relationships with multiple Summer Programs.

Keeping this team competitive while fixing the roster has been a solid achievement.
But you morons are too stupid to know it.
Too clueless to understand the mess.
Too busy worshipping your False Goddess.

Go back to your slug holes and leave the program building to the sane adults.

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So true........but at the same time we are so blessed that AP is willing to share his divine wisdom with us.......however I don't believe I've ever read after a poster that was so intoxicated with exuberance of his own verbosity.

While I was a Steve Smith fan, he made his own bed by referring to wbb as chickball for several years before Kim's son was receiving college offers an creating a controversy

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But, yet, she's managed to get what she needs at LSU, which she always managed to do at Baylor. For 20 years she brought in what she needs to and continues to do so. Carrington, Cooper, Jackson, her last three years. And they didn't come for NIL money, there wasn't any. Angel Reese this year. These players just don't pop up by accident. Why in the world would you think that would have stopped. She had two good players at LSU when she arrived, and she left Baylor the runner up national player of the year and Queen Egbo. who made the all rookie team. She would have brought in other top players too. She gets what she needs...and as she always has, she would have gotten it the last two years at Baylor

This isn't conjecture, it is based on her track record for 20 years.

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Angel Reese is paid $100,000 with potential bonuses of $75,000. That $ is why she is at LSU.

Williams is being paid $100,000.

Mulkey wouldn't have Smith or Egbo at Baylor this year. Fact.

Baylor was going to drop off under every single scenario.

2020 recruiting: 1 player, left before Mulkey
2021 recruiting: 2 players, 1 great 1 dud
2022 recruiting: 1 player injured before arriving, wanted out before Mulkey left

That is the relevant track record. WBB has 15 scholarships. 3 recruiting classes should = no less than 11 players. Baylor has 1 player to show for Mulkey's last three years.

She left a mess and she owns the dropoff 100%. Not Collen, Mulkey owns it! JohnWooden couldn't win big with what Collen inherited.

geewago said:

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baylor1984 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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This board is populated by a bunch of incredibly stupid morons.

Mulkey left a huge mess. Collen is methodically cleaning up that mess.




3 inherited players remain after 1 year. 3! The inherited roster was a disaster.

Who are those 3?

A quality 5'6 point guard forced to play shooting guard because we have so few scorers.
A 5'7 point guard who is average.
A 6'0 player at center who plays hard but lacks P5 athleticism…….and is 6 foot tall.

What did Collen accomplish in 1 year to rebuild the roster?

got a high quality 6'1 player who is a great athlete.
got a high quality 6'2 player who is a solid threat from the 3
got a developmental 6'4 player
Signed another 6'5 player who appears to be quality and is playing high level HS basketball
Got two high quality transfers, one of who has been forced to sit due to Kentucky's gamesmanship and the other sidelined by injury.
Two other players…..might be misses.

Collen has a second chance at portal. Two more hits and the roster will be in far better shape.

What did Mulkey do? She inherited a full roster.
She was provided $250,000 in NIL $ to buy players. She bought Reese for $100,000 and a local #1 recruit for $100,000. Any idiot complaining about recruiting needs to write that $250,000 check or STFU.

This team can't play the style of D that Collen prefers because the starting lineup is 5'4, 5'6, 5'7, 6'1, 6'0.
We lack shooters. We lack size. We lack length. We lack athleticism.

Every single one of those problem areas is being addressed but it takes time.

Mulkey left a roster mess. Mulkey left broken relationships with multiple Summer Programs.

Keeping this team competitive while fixing the roster has been a solid achievement.
But you morons are too stupid to know it.
Too clueless to understand the mess.
Too busy worshipping your False Goddess.

Go back to your slug holes and leave the program building to the sane adults.

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Winners win. Losers make excuses. Keep making excuses it's what you do best.

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So true........but at the same time we are so blessed that AP is willing to share his divine wisdom with us..........at the same time I don't believe I've ever read a poster that was so intoxicated with exuberance of his own verbosity.

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I'll say this over and over I have no problem with KM leaving Baylor and have no problem with Mack letting her walk. None of that changes what she accomplished here and what a great coach she is. She's a winner and has been one at every level she has participated at either as a player, Asst. Coach or HC. She took over a crap roster at LSU that hadn't sniffed a tourney bid in over 5 years and took it to the tourney and has remade that roster and turned it into the #3 team in the nation. None of that is a fluke. I love CNC who is a really sweet and kind person who seems to be 100 percent bought in to the Baylor culture but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.

geewago said:

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baylor1984 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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This board is populated by a bunch of incredibly stupid morons.

Mulkey left a huge mess. Collen is methodically cleaning up that mess.




3 inherited players remain after 1 year. 3! The inherited roster was a disaster.

Who are those 3?

A quality 5'6 point guard forced to play shooting guard because we have so few scorers.
A 5'7 point guard who is average.
A 6'0 player at center who plays hard but lacks P5 athleticism…….and is 6 foot tall.

What did Collen accomplish in 1 year to rebuild the roster?

got a high quality 6'1 player who is a great athlete.
got a high quality 6'2 player who is a solid threat from the 3
got a developmental 6'4 player
Signed another 6'5 player who appears to be quality and is playing high level HS basketball
Got two high quality transfers, one of who has been forced to sit due to Kentucky's gamesmanship and the other sidelined by injury.
Two other players…..might be misses.

Collen has a second chance at portal. Two more hits and the roster will be in far better shape.

What did Mulkey do? She inherited a full roster.
She was provided $250,000 in NIL $ to buy players. She bought Reese for $100,000 and a local #1 recruit for $100,000. Any idiot complaining about recruiting needs to write that $250,000 check or STFU.

This team can't play the style of D that Collen prefers because the starting lineup is 5'4, 5'6, 5'7, 6'1, 6'0.
We lack shooters. We lack size. We lack length. We lack athleticism.

Every single one of those problem areas is being addressed but it takes time.

Mulkey left a roster mess. Mulkey left broken relationships with multiple Summer Programs.

Keeping this team competitive while fixing the roster has been a solid achievement.
But you morons are too stupid to know it.
Too clueless to understand the mess.
Too busy worshipping your False Goddess.

Go back to your slug holes and leave the program building to the sane adults.

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Winners win. Losers make excuses. Keep making excuses it's what you do best.

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So true........but at the same time we are so blessed that AP is willing to share his divine wisdom with us.......however I don't believe I've ever read after a poster that was so intoxicated with exuberance of his own verbosity.

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Those spineless folks without facts……people with facts seem divine.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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lookin4awin said:

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But, yet, she's managed to get what she needs at LSU, which she always managed to do at Baylor. For 20 years she brought in what she needs to and continues to do so. Carrington, Cooper, Jackson, her last three years. And they didn't come for NIL money, there wasn't any. Angel Reese this year. These players just don't pop up by accident. Why in the world would you think that would have stopped. She had two good players at LSU when she arrived, and she left Baylor the runner up national player of the year and Queen Egbo. who made the all rookie team. She would have brought in other top players too. She gets what she needs...and as she always has, she would have gotten it the last two years at Baylor

This isn't conjecture, it is based on her track record for 20 years.

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Angel Reese is paid $100,000 with potential bonuses of $75,000. That $ is why she is at LSU.

Williams is being paid $100,000.

Mulkey wouldn't have Smith or Egbo at Baylor this year. Fact.

Baylor was going to drop off under every single scenario.

2020 recruiting: 1 player, left before Mulkey
2021 recruiting: 2 players, 1 great 1 dud
2022 recruiting: 1 player injured before arriving, wanted out before Mulkey left

That is the relevant track record. WBB has 15 scholarships. 3 recruiting classes should = no less than 11 players. Baylor has 1 player to show for Mulkey's last three years.

She left a mess and she owns the dropoff 100%. Not Collen, Mulkey owns it! JohnWooden couldn't win big with what Collen inherited.

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Excuse, Excuse, Excuse. It's all you ever do. How is a team who hadn't been to a tourney in 5 years have the #3 team in the nation with all the players ( top 8) all brought in by the coach either thru the portal/grad transfer/HS recruit in the last 2 years? You have no clue who she would have brought in to Baylor and her track record says she would have and it would be a winner. You make excuses, she continues to win.

You have no idea why Angel Reese came to LSU. You are throwing crap out there. If Angel got a bunch of money and got to play for Mulkey too, more power to her. How do you explain Carrington, Cooper, and Chloe Jackson. Answer that. YOU CAN'T. They got paid nothing. I doubt any of them came to Waco to meet Chip. They came to play for Mulkey. And, she would have brought in more talent just like them. You just spew conjecture as fact.

baylor1984 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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lookin4awin said:

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But, yet, she's managed to get what she needs at LSU, which she always managed to do at Baylor. For 20 years she brought in what she needs to and continues to do so. Carrington, Cooper, Jackson, her last three years. And they didn't come for NIL money, there wasn't any. Angel Reese this year. These players just don't pop up by accident. Why in the world would you think that would have stopped. She had two good players at LSU when she arrived, and she left Baylor the runner up national player of the year and Queen Egbo. who made the all rookie team. She would have brought in other top players too. She gets what she needs...and as she always has, she would have gotten it the last two years at Baylor

This isn't conjecture, it is based on her track record for 20 years.

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Angel Reese is paid $100,000 with potential bonuses of $75,000. That $ is why she is at LSU.

Williams is being paid $100,000.

Mulkey wouldn't have Smith or Egbo at Baylor this year. Fact.

Baylor was going to drop off under every single scenario.

2020 recruiting: 1 player, left before Mulkey
2021 recruiting: 2 players, 1 great 1 dud
2022 recruiting: 1 player injured before arriving, wanted out before Mulkey left

That is the relevant track record. WBB has 15 scholarships. 3 recruiting classes should = no less than 11 players. Baylor has 1 player to show for Mulkey's last three years.

She left a mess and she owns the dropoff 100%. Not Collen, Mulkey owns it! JohnWooden couldn't win big with what Collen inherited.

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Excuse, Excuse, Excuse. It's all you ever do. How is a team who hadn't been to a tourney in 5 years have the #3 team in the nation with all the players ( top 8) all brought in by the coach either thru the portal/grad transfer/HS recruit in the last 2 years? You have no clue who she would have brought in to Baylor and her track record says she would have and it would be a winner. You make excuses, she continues to win.

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Excuse…..lol.

Between Baylor and LSU which team has more victories over ranked teams this season?

Hint: not Mulkey's team

Where's the answer on Carrington, Jackson and Cooper Einstein. Who did they come to play for?

Hint you don't have one and can't throw crap out on this one.