IowaBear said:
We're going to have to find away to get solid recruits . Relying this heavily on transfers is going to limit the teams ceiling yearly. Filling holes with transfers is great. But those are almost always stop gaps. The foundation lays with recruiting and developing HS players
I guess it is how you look at it but we seemed to be trending in the direction. The last year Mulkey was here we had 4 transfers on the team (Owens, Carrington, McDaniel and Chrislyn Carr). As I recall I think Carr's sister was slated to come the next year and then backed out when the coaching change occurred and they both ended up at Syracuse. But I can't find any info on the Internet that confirms my memory on the second Carr. The year before we had two transfers on the team (Cooper and DeGrate). The year before we just had Jackson. Prior to that it was rare. But that is getting back to a time when transferring was much more limited by rule. But it seemed we were trending more to rely on transfers than HS. I don't know if that was because we just were not recruiting HS hard or just not getting commitments.IowaBear said:
Your 1st paragraph just isn't true… we took transfers but it was typically one a year. That's not relying on transfers. Relying on transfers is pulling 3-4 yearly. That's not what was being done prior to CNCs arrival. The portal should absolutely be used by BU to fill gaps when needed or to upgrade weaknesses. But that's not where BU is trending. We're getting to the point where CNC and staff are relying to heavily on the portal. We have to be able to recruit solid HS players as foundational 4 yr players
I fail to see how many national championships Baylor has had in the PAST relates to HS recruits when the last one was 5 years ago under a different coach. It is nice to say we have done that in the past, but it is like what is said in the financial world...."Past results do not guarantee future returns." And in this case the prime reason for those championships is no longer here. That is not going to be unique with Baylor. It is true for every major historical successful program. When Mulkey retires, LSU will most likely no longer get such high recruiting classes or will have to considerably up the ante on NIL to compensate. I feel confident in saying the same will be true when Geno steps down. The highest level recruits didn't flock to Tennessee when Pat had to step aside. It is the coach and the perception recruits have of the coach that matter way more than anything done in the past under someone else.BearTiger said:
Yes agree, if Baylor is to be competitive with other top teams, we need to have good WBB NIL. We will have successful seasons and national exposure. Mulkey just secured #1 recruiting class with four 5-star recruits in the Top 25 with no NIL's upfront for any of the 4 committed recruits. They committed because they wanted to be coached by Mulkey and their natl championship culture. They do have 2 NIL staff on WBB team and NIL Dept that have companies continuously donating to WBB. Those 4 new 5-star recruits will probably get NIL's during their 1st year due to their national exposure. Baylor needs to do something aggressive about WBB NIL to attract top 30 recruits. And we have 3 natl championships, only handful of teams have that many nattys. Baylor has rich alum and fans, and TX is loaded with multi millionaires.
Guess we will disagree on this one, which is fine. And I do believe what DCheeta says is correct, but I think recruits must believe that the current coach is the one that can prove the past can occur again.BearTiger said:
I totally disagree with your logic that our 3 natl championships don't matter to HS recruits, nor matter to transfers, since they were obtained in the past with a former coach. If that's the case, then Coach N and staff should stop taking photos and videos of every recruit holding up our NC trophies. We should remove the 3 NC trophies from our display case, remove the 3 NC banners. Not saying we will definitely win a NC again, but it's a selling point, top athletes want to play for a winner, and Baylor has a proven track record.
If I was the head coach, you better believe I would sell nattys to every recruit that walks in the door. If you were applying for a job, your resume will reflect what you have done in the past, your proven track record, to help you secure the new job.
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BearTiger said:
Prawl is an international student, temporary immigrant, from Canada. She cannot receive NIL money, car, etc, from any college in the US (except for tshirts/jerseys allowed). She can only receive NIL money from Canada or other foreign countries. Congress/Senate have not passed an immigration law allowing international students, temporary immigrants, to receive NIL money. New coach at Tennessee has to be very careful.
