IowaBear said:

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blackie said:

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IowaBear said:

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I have no idea. But that's probably a debate best saved until after Thursday night. Or even better seasons end. I will say LSU got hosed last year. Anyone with a brain knew they were much better than a 3 seed and it showed. That's likely to be the case this year. They'll be seeded lower than their talent and probably knock off a few higher seeds
I think they're a much team than BU. Do I think they deserve to host over BU? I have no idea. That's way above my pay grade

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They may have gotten hosed with their seed last year, but were provided a gift from above when Utah couldn't hit squat from the free throw line. Without that, LSU would have been home for the FF.

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They'll be seeded lower than their talent

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That shouldn't be a surprise. It is Kim's out of conference (OOC) scheduling. We saw it here and we see it there. Our record several times should have given us a #1, but we didn't get it and the talking heads on the selection show pointed it out clearly. Our OOC sucked and our conference did not help because it sometimes was not strong. The conference schedule is out of your hands. Your OOC is not. I understood the years when we were building a team to schedule a softer OOC, but after Griner came we still did not do much in OOC. Yes, we would schedule one elite team most years, but the rest of OOC was a yawn or worse. People here complained about it for years. Seems like the same approach at LSU.

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Meh they beat Utah… I've never been into the whole excuse thing. They won the game. Teams catch breaks in March. Hell if Bama hadn't completely **** the bed we would have been bounced in the Rd 64. Doesn't change the fact that they should have been a 1 seed. I personally don't care what Kim did OOC wise because they always showed up in March. 11 straight S16's speaks for itself

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Meh;, too. I was responding to why we were usually seeded below our talent and it was primarily because of our OOC.

LSU got hosed last year?

Are you kidding me?

That was one of the easiest paths I've ever seen in the Women 's Tournament.


This wasn't like BU's 2019 season, where they truly earned the title and were the best team in the country for the better part of the season.

Baylor beat UCONN, Notre Dame, Oregon, South Carolina (Twice), and Iowa during the course of the season (knocking off the latter 4 teams in the tournament).

So no one can ever say they lucked out that year, as they beat everyone on their schedule that season (minus Stanford on the road).


Last year, LSU's main threats in their bracket were Indiana, Miami, Utah, Washington St, Villanova, NC State, and Michigan.

If I'm not mistaken, outside of NC State's Final Four run in 1998, only Michigan and Indiana had even made an Elite 8 Appearance.

And as Blackie mentioned, LSU was an air-balled free-throw away from most likely going home in the Sweet 16.


As for the lower half of the overall bracket - once UCONN went down, LSU had clear sailing to the championship game (Miami and VA Tech played like they were just happy to be there).

And with South Carolina, UCLA, Maryland, Notre Dame, Iowa, and Louisville all having to beat up on each other on the other side of the bracket, the absolute best-case scenario happened, as Iowa did LSU's dirty work for them and knocked off their biggest threat (in SC).


With Morris gone, this is nowhere near the same LSU team as last year.

And with the bullseye squarely on their back, they will not be sneaking up on anyone this year, and everyone will be gunning for them (see Mississippi State last night).

I wouldn't be surprised if LSU went out in the Sweet 16 this year.

They won the National Championship. Nobody cares how they did it. Same goes for every National Championship we've ever won in every sport we've ever won it in. Winner's win, Losers make excuses.

They beat 2 2 seeds and a 1 seed. But sure sure easiest path ever!
The length some of the morons on here go to downplay Mulkeys success is just plain sad.

LSU absolutely got hosed seeding wise. Only a moron would say otherwise. Make all the excuses you want. They won the dance. Sone people have a hard time accepting that. You're clearly one of them

they did win but this team is no where near as good.

It's January….and they're still one of 6 who can win it all this year. Y'all gonna look awfully silly when they make another deep run.

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BUVA said:

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#9 LSU falls to unranked MS State 77-73

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Welp; is that two L's in a row for LSU?

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Probably still reeling from a hard fought lost to SC.

i don't see it, there is too many good teams this year that are coming after them soooo hard. They are not as good as they were last year and it's not even close.

There's 6-8 teams max who have a shot at title. They'll be one of them come March whether you or anyone else likes it. If I'm wrong I'll gladly come have some crow.

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i don't see it, there is too many good teams this year that are coming after them soooo hard. They are not as good as they were last year and it's not even close.

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I don't think last year's team, as much as I love them, would have beaten Utah or Texas. Probably 1-2 more loses as well.

i'm speaking about LSU, this years LSU team is not winning a title.

Did you watch the SC LSU game? You've routinely called SC the best squad. And LSU beat them for 38 minutes and likely wins if Reese doesn't foul out.
If they aren't winning it then no one aside from SC is. Because lSU is the only team SC is sweating.
You're drastically underestimating LSUs ability in a 1 game elimination tournament

8 or 10 different teams could win it this year. You would have to say SC is the favorite, but you would have said the same thing last year and they didn't get it done.

WV looked good tonight but man UCF is horrendous

besides the North Carolina game that was the sloppiest they played and they still came out on top in Baton Rouge. And to win a basketball game you have to win a 40 especially if you wanna win a title. They have won only one home game all season. You can't base what they did last year on this team not the same at all. If they had a point guard i could see it but they don't. That Tennessee game will be tough for them. That Vandy game could be tough as well. I haven't watched Vandy too much but they seem to be doing great things.

yeah i don't know what is going on with UCF, she really has to get one big dominio to fall in recruiting and she could be doing great things.

They looked sloppy because LSU made them look sloppy. Will have to agree to disagree. But LSU is still of the favorites to win it all.

We will see. March will be one for the ages. And i think the whole country will be on notice about Women's Basketball!!

LSU has much talent, and a strong coach; but they have not yet found a rhythm. They very well might in March, but the losses are stacking up in January. They looked good vs. SC, but it felt like SC was going to grind out the win eventually. The reality is that parity has now made it possible for somewhere between 6-12 teams to have a reasonable shot at the Natty. When the threes are falling, any good team can beat a great team. When the shooters grow cold, top notch teams are vulnerable. At this stage, we have to say Dawn is most likely to win it all. She beat a talented LSU team with a 4 time natty coach on their own home court. And I think she would beat them by more on a neutral court. But, I do agree, SC would give anything to avoid a rematch with LSU. But I hope we get to see it.

Going on records alone it appears South Carolina will win it all. They are the only team in the country, WBB or MBB, that is still undefeated and I don't know if anyone on their regular season schedule, except UConn, will seriously challenge them. Much will depend on their seeding for March Madness but their are few teams in the country that they will be afraid of. Unfortunately, Baylor is probably not one of them.

IowaBear,

Wow.

So let me get this straight. If any member on this board does not bow down and say that our former coach walks on water, then they are a moron? Really?

I have to give it you. You are definitely Kim Mulkey's biggest supporter on this board. Maybe even the internet as a whole.

Might as well change your Name to LSUBear and go post on Tigerdroppings.

And you do this on nearly EVERY SINGLE THREAD where someone remotely criticizes our former coach.

I mean, right on queue. It's almost comical.


To the point I was making, and I think most reasonable folks on here can see it - is that none of the Team's LSU faced last year were ready for primetime. In other words, most of those teams were only 1 and 2 seeds in name.

Put it this way - If you had told me that any of our previous team's during the Mulkey-era would get to the title game if we had to face Utah, Miami, and VA Tech, every single person on here would have GLADLY taken that path.

I'll admit that you can only play the team's in front of you. And to LSU's credit, they took advantage of the situation and beat every team they had to face.

But to act like they didn't have a few lucky bounces go their way, and essentially equate them to any of the previous champions of the last 15 years, is a slap in the face to those former champions - who in nearly every case, were a potential favorite to win it all in the year's that they did.

Oh go cry sone more! I was purely referencing you discrediting the title team because they "got tons of breaks" and yes only a moron would discredit what they did. That goes for you and anyone else who wants to discredit that title run. We may as well cancel March madness and just give the trophy to SC right?
And I do t do this every thread. I call out dumb ass posts and yours fits that to the que. but carry on crying and discrediting that title because your mad Mulkey won it.
And I hate LSU athletics as a whole so nice try.
I recommend you and the other Mulkey haters get together for some therapy.
They got a lucky break against Utah… boo boo the utter horror! They won the tournament and were the best team when it matter last year. Why you argue otherwise I have no idea.

but last years title and last years team can do nothing for this years team when it comes to producing on the court. They do not have the depth or the guard defense they had last year. In most of there big games where people actually guarded them tough they have lost. VT is a zone defense and Angel is more athletic than the big from VT and so the put back numbers were crazy and VT had one of the worst shooting nights this season. Maybe KM broke the code on them and I wouldn't be surprised at all, great coach. But in the the other 2 ranked games she did not pull out a win. The first one she even had all the depth that everyone was super excited for. yes hailey was new to pg but she isn't anymore and she is still bad at it. no changes have been made and idk what they can do but she has to either figure it out or they can and will be got in the tournament early.

I'm not arguing anything about this years team. But to exclude them as a title contender is ridiculous.
I'm talking about last years title. Discrediting it as "lucky bounces" favorable matchups or whatever other excuse people want to use is dumb.
Again, I'll eat crow gladly. But I think you'll be backtracking about LSU in the tournament. They'll be playing late into the year

that's the tournament though sometimes, you get the favorable matchup sometimes you get the short end of the stick.

You play the team in front of you. Those teams are there for a reason. They aren't slouch's

yeah, it was out of their control who they played and you are correct with that for sure. And they won a title and that is a fact. Whether the teams they faced were good or not is debatable but what you can't debate is that they won the title. It happened and it's over with at this point.

So Utah, Miami, V Tech and Iowa weren't good teams? Come on now lol. It's really not debatable those were good teams.
Did they benefit from Iowa knocking off SC? Yes, does that take away from the fact that they than demolished Iowa? Nope at least not imo

i'm not saying they weren't good teams. I'm just saying i can see it both ways but ultimately LSU ended with the championship, nobody can take that from them and it is what it is at this point. I really am not worried about last year but this year is a different story in my opinion. And if I am being honest from their resume nothing is telling me they deserve to host this season.

I haven't read the entire back and forth, but the best team in the country doesn't always win the championship. Which is why everyone loves the Madness that comes with the tournament. Mulkey has at LSU, much like she did a Baylor, not challenged her team in the OOC minus one or two games. The committee doesn't look kindly on that situation.

Last year, prior to the SEC tournament, LSU played two ranked teams. One was against #24 Arkansas, which they won. The other was against #1 South Carolina which they got shot out of the gym by 24. They had one of the weakest strength of schedules of anyone who made the tournament, A 3 seed was kind as I projected they'd get a 4.

That said, they were a free throw away from losing to Utah in the Sweet 16. And honestly, South Carolina was far and away the best team in the country last year but had a tragic "off" game against a power shooting Iowa. Things happen, which is why brackets are so unpredictable and why everyone loves it.

Kudos to them. I don't think LSU is the best team in the country. I also don't think Baylor is. But I do think that either of them can beat anyone on a given night (Baylor, so long as the other team doesn't have insurmountable height). March will be fun. It was somewhat fun last year. But we still have 6 weeks to get there. And a whole lot of basketball (and injuries) to deal with.

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I haven't read the entire back and forth, but the best team in the country doesn't always win the championship. Which is why everyone loves the Madness that comes with the tournament. Mulkey has at LSU, much like she did a Baylor, not challenged her team in the OOC minus one or two games. The committee doesn't look kindly on that situation.

Last year, prior to the SEC tournament, LSU played two ranked teams. One was against #24 Arkansas, which they won. The other was against #1 South Carolina which they got shot out of the gym by 24. They had one of the weakest strength of schedules of anyone who made the tournament, A 3 seed was kind as I projected they'd get a 4.

That said, they were a free throw away from losing to Utah in the Sweet 16. And honestly, South Carolina was far and away the best team in the country last year but had a tragic "off" game against a power shooting Iowa. Things happen, which is why brackets are so unpredictable and why everyone loves it.

Kudos to them. I don't think LSU is the best team in the country. I also don't think Baylor is. But I do think that either of them can beat anyone on a given night (Baylor, so long as the other team doesn't have insurmountable height). March will be fun. It was somewhat fun last year. But we still have 6 weeks to get there. And a whole lot of basketball (and injuries) to deal with.

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If you take a look at what SEC teams did in the tournament last year, you will see that LSU played some good teams before the tournament.

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I haven't read the entire back and forth, but the best team in the country doesn't always win the championship. Which is why everyone loves the Madness that comes with the tournament. Mulkey has at LSU, much like she did a Baylor, not challenged her team in the OOC minus one or two games. The committee doesn't look kindly on that situation.

Last year, prior to the SEC tournament, LSU played two ranked teams. One was against #24 Arkansas, which they won. The other was against #1 South Carolina which they got shot out of the gym by 24. They had one of the weakest strength of schedules of anyone who made the tournament, A 3 seed was kind as I projected they'd get a 4.

That said, they were a free throw away from losing to Utah in the Sweet 16. And honestly, South Carolina was far and away the best team in the country last year but had a tragic "off" game against a power shooting Iowa. Things happen, which is why brackets are so unpredictable and why everyone loves it.

Kudos to them. I don't think LSU is the best team in the country. I also don't think Baylor is. But I do think that either of them can beat anyone on a given night (Baylor, so long as the other team doesn't have insurmountable height). March will be fun. It was somewhat fun last year. But we still have 6 weeks to get there. And a whole lot of basketball (and injuries) to deal with.

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If you take a look at what SEC teams did in the tournament last year, you will see that LSU played some good teams before the tournament.

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Good, yes. But ranked? There were only two. SEC over indexed compared to what was expected in regards to the NCAA tournament. But the committee looks at RPI, SOS, etc. It's what makes everything an eye test. But few complained about their #3 seed. I don't even think Mulkey complained. Which, given her history, is rare.

OU takes down KSU tonight, 66-63.

OU seems to have really turned it around after a rollercoaster start in nonconference. There is still a long way to go though.