Non-Baylor wbb games

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BUVA
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#16 Utah stomped by #25 OR State 91-66. Utettes had 5 players in double digits, Pili had 28.

#11 USC downed at home by unranked Washington 62-59.

BUVA
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historian said:

I don't remember the margin but Baylor had a really good win at Storrs in 2020


We did, but shortly thereafter Oregon beat them 74-56. I think we beat them by 16.
BUVA
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Unranked WA State beats #2 UCLA at home 85-82.

CRAZY weekend in WBB!
BearTiger
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So what are you nicknaming UCLA, the Bruinettes? LOL.
historian
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I looked it up: 74-58. (Good memory!)
It was January 9, 2020

https://baylorbears.com/sports/womens-basketball/schedule/2019-20
BUVA
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#9 LSU falls to unranked MS State 77-73
MrGolfguy
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BUVA said:

#9 LSU falls to unranked MS State 77-73
Welp; is that two L's in a row for LSU?
Brusinbear2001
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i think the way you beat them is you pressure the PG if it is HVL or Poa just ride them and make it so tough to run offense. Angel will get hers but when they turn the ball over that is when they are really beat able. They do not have much off the bench at all and it is killing them. But now with two unranked losses and then a weak schedule how does this hurt their seeding? I guess we will see.

What also hurt them and allowed Miss State stay around early was Angel scared to play D to not pick up fouls. If you put her in a ball screen and drive at her she is letting people pass her. But lots of credit to Miss State they made HUGE shots and were ready for the moment for sure.
BUVA
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historian said:

I looked it up: 74-58. (Good memory!)
It was January 9, 2020

https://baylorbears.com/sports/womens-basketball/schedule/2019-20


We also beat them the year before in Waco....maybe the last team to beat them two years in a row?
bawitdaball
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Angel looked gassed today in the second quarter and again in the fourth. HVL is learning the true point guard position, but she just seemed to have regressed over the last year. I remember at Louisville just assuming that any shot she took would go in. The 6-7 player rotation is going to be difficult, especially given the beating Reese is taking down low in every game. I think she was 7-17 from the field. She'll get hers, you just have to make her be a volume shooter in order to do it. Also likely some leftover emotion after the SC game. Will be an interesting season, but LSU fell to 3 games behind SC in the conference and I don't think either of them play a Top 25 team the rest of the regular season.
historian
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Maybe. That game in 2020 broke some of their streaks.


I was at the game in Waco on January 3, 2019 & have fond memories. That was a great game & it was loud!! It was the first time we had ever beaten #1.
Brusinbear2001
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LSU still has to play Vandy and Tennessee. But also get Auburn again. But if none of those teams get into the top 25 they do not have another until SEC Tournament Potentially.
bawitdaball
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Brusinbear2001 said:

LSU still has to play Vandy and Tennessee. But also get Auburn again. But if none of those teams get into the top 25 they do not have another until SEC Tournament Potentially.
Yea, SEC is extremely top heavy ... as in two team heavy. And Tenessee lost to Ole Miss yesterday and beat Sandy by double digits the week before. I don't see any of the other teams in the conference reaching the Top 25, especially since all likely have a loss to SC coming down the pipeline. WIll be interesting to see an LSU/SC SEC tournament final, but again, I feel LSU is going to be gassed in much the same way Baylor was in Smith/Queen's final year. Just not enough quality subs.
ctxbear
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So the current LSU coach has a worse record with, arguably, far more talent than the current Baylor coach.

Interesting.
blackie
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bawitdaball said:

Brusinbear2001 said:

LSU still has to play Vandy and Tennessee. But also get Auburn again. But if none of those teams get into the top 25 they do not have another until SEC Tournament Potentially.
Yea, SEC is extremely top heavy ... as in two team heavy. And Tenessee lost to Ole Miss yesterday and beat Sandy by double digits the week before. I don't see any of the other teams in the conference reaching the Top 25, especially since all likely have a loss to SC coming down the pipeline. WIll be interesting to see an LSU/SC SEC tournament final, but again, I feel LSU is going to be gassed in much the same way Baylor was in Smith/Queen's final year. Just not enough quality subs.
If the standings end up the way they are today. LSU would finish 4th. They would not meet in the SEC tournament final, but semi-final.
blackie
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ctxbear said:

So the current LSU coach has a worse record with, arguably, far more talent than the current Baylor coach.

Interesting.
I guess she doesn't know how to coach either. I'm sure some of our resident experts here could let her know what she is doing wrong, and if the players aren't executing what she calls up, it is her fault. Sure.
historian
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Maybe it's just the nature of the game. Even the greatest coaches sometimes lose games, sometimes inexplicably to ""inferior" teams.

baylor1984
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4 National Championships tends to give you a little leeway on your coaching decisions..
tmcats
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i watched a lot of the miss state win over lsu. the latter seems to have trouble focusing on the game. too many divas in the huddle, it seems. led by their coach and star. some of the girls seemed lost. not sure kim has her act together this season. they didn't look competitive last night.
baylorbear33
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tmcats said:

i watched a lot of the miss state win over lsu. the latter seems to have trouble focusing on the game. too many divas in the huddle, it seems. led by their coach and star. some of the girls seemed lost. not sure kim has her act together this season. they didn't look competitive last night.
Biggest issue I see with LSU this year is that they lack a competent point guard. Van Lith is trying, but she just doesn't have the ball handling skills to deal with the pressure, and her footwork is too slow on defense. She is much more effective at the shooting guard position. Poa is just a mystery this year as she seems to have lost all confidence and is just a turnover waiting to happen. They are really missing the floor general they had in Alexis Morris last year. They also had a couple of player losses due to injury and ?? that made a big difference in bench depth. The starting five are as talented (or more so) than any starting 5 in the country, but when they get in foul trouble or get tired, the drop off is significant. However, as CKM has said before, you go to battle with the soldiers you've got. They will struggle from time to time, but they also have the ability to beat any team in the country on any given night. I feel certain she will remedy her point guard situation in the off-season, Sa'Maya Smith should be back from her knee injury next season, and I believe that all current players have the option to return next year, so it will be interesting to see what they look like at that time. I also would not count them out come tournament time as they are still capable of a deep run depending on their final seed, team draws, etc.
IowaBear
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There's going to be 3 number #1 seeds praying that LSU isn't the 4 seed in their bracket come selection Sunday (they won't be out in SCs bracket)
baylor1984
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Can't see why Reece and HVL won't return because they are making more money thru NIL at LSU than they could ever make in the WNBA or overseas playing.
Brusinbear2001
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if i am being honest why do they deserve to host rather than us? we have two unranked losses they have to losses to ranked teams we have one. We have beaten more ranked teams than they have. Like i am not understanding how they should be ranked higher or even hosting at this point. They also have played a way weaker schedule in my opinion. Like besides biased media and stuff what other reason could they have a better resume than us.
baylor1984
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New rankings will come out next Monday and let's see where we are after that.
Brusinbear2001
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we need a huge win thursday !!!
Leonidas
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baylorbear33 said:

tmcats said:

i watched a lot of the miss state win over lsu. the latter seems to have trouble focusing on the game. too many divas in the huddle, it seems. led by their coach and star. some of the girls seemed lost. not sure kim has her act together this season. they didn't look competitive last night.
Biggest issue I see with LSU this year is that they lack a competent point guard. Van Lith is trying, but she just doesn't have the ball handling skills to deal with the pressure, and her footwork is too slow on defense. She is much more effective at the shooting guard position. Poa is just a mystery this year as she seems to have lost all confidence and is just a turnover waiting to happen. They are really missing the floor general they had in Alexis Morris last year. They also had a couple of player losses due to injury and ?? that made a big difference in bench depth. The starting five are as talented (or more so) than any starting 5 in the country, but when they get in foul trouble or get tired, the drop off is significant. However, as CKM has said before, you go to battle with the soldiers you've got. They will struggle from time to time, but they also have the ability to beat any team in the country on any given night. I feel certain she will remedy her point guard situation in the off-season, Sa'Maya Smith should be back from her knee injury next season, and I believe that all current players have the option to return next year, so it will be interesting to see what they look like at that time. I also would not count them out come tournament time as they are still capable of a deep run depending on their final seed, team draws, etc.
HVL does not have another year left. She is using her Covid year this year I believe.

Reese may be able to make more in NIL next year year rather than with an uncertain WNBA future. She will also have to factor in going to school (online) for another year.

Thankfully, after next year, we will no longer have the extra covid years for either wbb or mbb.

Here is a link that discusses the LSU roster situation. On the same site, you can also look up any other team as well:

https://wbbblog.com/lsu-womens-basketball-recruiting/


Brusinbear2001
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also in the update bracket we are predicted to be a 5 seed and they are a 4 and it makes no sense at all to me.
IowaBear
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I have no idea. But that's probably a debate best saved until after Thursday night. Or even better seasons end. I will say LSU got hosed last year. Anyone with a brain knew they were much better than a 3 seed and it showed. That's likely to be the case this year. They'll be seeded lower than their talent and probably knock off a few higher seeds
I think they're a much team than BU. Do I think they deserve to host over BU? I have no idea. That's way above my pay grade
Brusinbear2001
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i disagree that they are much better, but that's opinion based for sure. i feel they are very good at their plan but i have yet to see plan B from LSU all season. Once you stop Hailey and Poa and pressure them they turn the ball over. If you can rebound against them too it takes a lot of their offense away. That's why happened last night atleast.
IowaBear
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I guess my better wording would be I don't think BU is capable of exploiting LSUs weaknesses like others can. I guess will see if March.
Brusinbear2001
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I don't know, i feel we have better guard play and that's what made them lose last night. They have the bigs but at the guard spots we can battle with the for sure. The times we really have lost is when people Zone. KM will not zone. Angel will get hers but what else would they have one us? Morrow would be guarded by Blackwell. Sarah on Williams, Jada is taking Hailey's Lunch off her plate all the way down the floor. Like she got exposed by a great defensive freshman last night. We have bodies coming off the bench they have a freshman big that even Lety could match up with she does not do much at all. Poa can take a few Charges but Yaya can work her too. The only advantage I see is Angel honestly.
IowaBear
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We have nobody capable of guarding Williams. And who's guarding Flau'jae. I think you're severely overestimating BUs ability to defend and severely underestimating KSUs ability to score at all 5 spots.
And I strongly disagree that their only advantage is Reese. That's just not accurate at all
Not worth arguing about as it'll play out in March
Brusinbear2001
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it's not arguing it's just discussion. I promise. I think Buggs could guard her for sure. Bella could as well. Taking about Williams. And Williams is a liability on the defensive end for LSU. Johnson is a great player for sure. But they force Hailey to hold the ball and run the offense so much that it does not help Johnson and her game at all. I'm also am a very competitive person and i really believe in this team. Like I don't think we are easy to guard when teams go man at all that is because of the versatility of our post. We just struggle when teams go man on offense. So not only do we have to guard teams but they have to guard us as well. And if you don't think Sarah Andrews would get up for that game just go to a totally different level.
blackie
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IowaBear said:

I have no idea. But that's probably a debate best saved until after Thursday night. Or even better seasons end. I will say LSU got hosed last year. Anyone with a brain knew they were much better than a 3 seed and it showed. That's likely to be the case this year. They'll be seeded lower than their talent and probably knock off a few higher seeds
I think they're a much team than BU. Do I think they deserve to host over BU? I have no idea. That's way above my pay grade
They may have gotten hosed with their seed last year, but were provided a gift from above when Utah couldn't hit squat from the free throw line. Without that, LSU would have been home for the FF.

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They'll be seeded lower than their talent
That shouldn't be a surprise. It is Kim's out of conference (OOC) scheduling. We saw it here and we see it there. Our record several times should have given us a #1, but we didn't get it and the talking heads on the selection show pointed it out clearly. Our OOC sucked and our conference did not help because it sometimes was not strong. The conference schedule is out of your hands. Your OOC is not. I understood the years when we were building a team to schedule a softer OOC, but after Griner came we still did not do much in OOC. Yes, we would schedule one elite team most years, but the rest of OOC was a yawn or worse. People here complained about it for years. Seems like the same approach at LSU.
IowaBear
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blackie said:

IowaBear said:

I have no idea. But that's probably a debate best saved until after Thursday night. Or even better seasons end. I will say LSU got hosed last year. Anyone with a brain knew they were much better than a 3 seed and it showed. That's likely to be the case this year. They'll be seeded lower than their talent and probably knock off a few higher seeds
I think they're a much team than BU. Do I think they deserve to host over BU? I have no idea. That's way above my pay grade
They may have gotten hosed with their seed last year, but were provided a gift from above when Utah couldn't hit squat from the free throw line. Without that, LSU would have been home for the FF.

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They'll be seeded lower than their talent
That shouldn't be a surprise. It is Kim's out of conference (OOC) scheduling. We saw it here and we see it there. Our record several times should have given us a #1, but we didn't get it and the talking heads on the selection show pointed it out clearly. Our OOC sucked and our conference did not help because it sometimes was not strong. The conference schedule is out of your hands. Your OOC is not. I understood the years when we were building a team to schedule a softer OOC, but after Griner came we still did not do much in OOC. Yes, we would schedule one elite team most years, but the rest of OOC was a yawn or worse. People here complained about it for years. Seems like the same approach at LSU.

Meh they beat Utah… I've never been into the whole excuse thing. They won the game. Teams catch breaks in March. Hell if Bama hadn't completely **** the bed we would have been bounced in the Rd 64. Doesn't change the fact that they should have been a 1 seed. I personally don't care what Kim did OOC wise because they always showed up in March. 11 straight S16's speaks for itself
 
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