Bulldog said:
Any thoughts on this?
One has to wonder if maybe Kim knew of this possibility beforehand. I tend to agree 100% with your post.Eball said:
I am not trying to start anything or be called a Kim stalker...but assuming the Big 12 implodes and with the SEC gaining increased power, stature and money in the day and age of NIL well Kim certainly wound up in a better spot than if she had stayed at BU...whether she wins or not or we win or not...going forward LSU would have a tremendous advantage in terms of what they could offer athletes and coaches for that matter....
I know, I know UCONN but that was a different era than now...we are moving in a direction where there will be a top tier of have's that will clearly now have an advantage over the have not's...
100%Eball said:
I am not trying to start anything or be called a Kim stalker...but assuming the Big 12 implodes and with the SEC gaining increased power, stature and money in the day and age of NIL well Kim certainly wound up in a better spot than if she had stayed at BU...whether she wins or not or we win or not...going forward LSU would have a tremendous advantage in terms of what they could offer athletes and coaches for that matter....
I know, I know UCONN but that was a different era than now...we are moving in a direction where there will be a top tier of have's that will clearly now have an advantage over the have not's...
Bulldog said:One has to wonder if maybe Kim knew of this possibility beforehand. I tend to agree 100% with your post.Eball said:
I am not trying to start anything or be called a Kim stalker...but assuming the Big 12 implodes and with the SEC gaining increased power, stature and money in the day and age of NIL well Kim certainly wound up in a better spot than if she had stayed at BU...whether she wins or not or we win or not...going forward LSU would have a tremendous advantage in terms of what they could offer athletes and coaches for that matter....
I know, I know UCONN but that was a different era than now...we are moving in a direction where there will be a top tier of have's that will clearly now have an advantage over the have not's...
Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) July 23, 2021
If SEC leadership purposefully withheld info from a Member institution [while informing other members], it would create the Mother of All Liability. Not reality.Jacques Strap said:Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) July 23, 2021
I don't know Aggy really loves chanting SEC SEC SEC when Bama wins a championship. They may pout a little but will ultimately be happy their fight song lyrics make sense again and settle back into Howdying the folks at the bank when they deposit their $EC $hare.Adriacus Peratuun said:If SEC leadership purposefully withheld info from a Member institution [while informing other members], it would create the Mother of All Liability. Not reality.Jacques Strap said:Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) July 23, 2021
I don't know AP...this all has the makings of a tremendous conspiracy theory...Kim just up and bolts to LSU and the SEC...the AD is the former Aggie AD...LSU would likely be one of the schools told about the maneuvering that started 6 months ago they are saying now...then suddenly on eve of her HOF induction and birth of second grandchild...a radio sports talk show starts the rumor mill well in advance to it actually happening that Kim is coming to LSU! Nobody really believes it is happening or that Kim would leave but she does for roughly same money but heads off into a much more competitive league...now our side says she got her feelings hurt over something well maybe she did or maybe she just orchestrated it all to make a clean exist based on some tipped inside info? Who knows....Adriacus Peratuun said:If SEC leadership purposefully withheld info from a Member institution [while informing other members], it would create the Mother of All Liability. Not reality.Jacques Strap said:Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.
— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) July 23, 2021
I am praying you are right....BUatbirth said:
Here we go. I could give a rats a$$ about Kim Mulkey. If she knew, then it just fits the narrative that Kim is all about Kim. As for WBB,,,recruits are going to go to the schools that consistently WIN and go deep into the tournament. Kim made Baylor that program. I believe Nicki will keep us there. WIN and recruits come,,,regardless of conference affiliation. One could argue that NIL will follow the same logic. Win and you get attention.
He can say whatever he wants, but I highly doubt they are able to nix this. This appears to be a done deal...SirBearALot said:
Talked to an Aggie fan today, he pissed. Tex made fun of Aggie for leaving B12 and now they are going there too. Said it will make Aggie the little brother to UT again, even though they are the larger school.. Says UT should go to liberal left coast. aka PAC12. they don't fit in SEC . Southern States are more conservative than UT elite leftist liberals in Austin.. Said this was all done behind the backs of most SEC teams, they can nix it with a 25% vote against it.
You gotta love that.DanaDane said:
Congrats, Texas. You get 10 more years of Kim constantly kicking your ass until she retires.
Different conference, same ass kicking.
DustyM said:You gotta love that.DanaDane said:
Congrats, Texas. You get 10 more years of Kim constantly kicking your ass until she retires.
Different conference, same ass kicking.
After this latest round of bull$#!+ from those two, who's gonna want them around if they stay? Who's gonna want to be constantly looking over their shoulder, year after year, to see what kind of knives they're gonna used to backstab the conference next. As far as I'm concerned (and numerous others), here's what UT/OU can do:fredbear said:
My prediction. Texas and UT go nowhere. Ou has no shot at being a perineal playoff team in Sec. This is all posturing to demand a larger share of big 12 revenue. Poker plain and simple.
slimecap said:
BIG 12 OFFICIALS MEET
to discuss possible departures of Oklahoma and Texas to SEC
The Big 12 athletic directors and their university presidents and chancellors held a videoconference on Thursday evening to discuss the possible moves. Both OU and Texas were invited to the meeting but declined to participate in the call, sources said.
In a statement provided to ESPN, the Big 12 said, "There is a recognition that institutions may act in their own self-interest, however there is an expectation that members adhere to Conference bylaws and the enforcement of Grant of Rights agreements."
The Big 12 bylaws require any withdrawing member to give the league at least 18 months' notice. There also is a hefty exit fee -- departing schools must pay the league a "commitment buyout fee," which is an amount equal to the sum of distributions that otherwise would be paid to the school during the final two years of its membership. Exiting schools, according to the bylaws, "shall be deemed to have agreed to forfeit all distributions of any type that otherwise would have been made to the withdrawing member during the interim period" between the notice date and the actual departure date.
Last year, the Big 12 distributed about $38 million to each of its members, third most among Power 5 conferences, so Texas and Oklahoma would owe about $76 million each.
One source said the Big 12 also discussed the possibility of finding more revenue for Texas and OU if their motivation to exit is driven by money.
OU and Texas also signed a Big 12 grant-of-rights agreement, in which they granted their first- and second-tier media rights for football and men's basketball to the conference through June 30, 2025. That means the Big 12 would still own the schools' media rights for those sports -- even if they are no longer members -- until the agreement expires.
- Excerpts from espn, 22 July 2021 @ 9:01 p.m. CT
I know I am about to sound revengeful and probably stupid, but I am ready to tell them to go rather than give them anything else especially Texas. What sport have they been relevant in the past 5 to 6 years? Every time I see the Longhorn network, I get furious.
But I am also a realist and I know Baylor can't compete with the money. I just hate what may happen to our recruiting promise.
LadyChickBear said:slimecap said:
BIG 12 OFFICIALS MEET
to discuss possible departures of Oklahoma and Texas to SEC
The Big 12 athletic directors and their university presidents and chancellors held a videoconference on Thursday evening to discuss the possible moves. Both OU and Texas were invited to the meeting but declined to participate in the call, sources said.
In a statement provided to ESPN, the Big 12 said, "There is a recognition that institutions may act in their own self-interest, however there is an expectation that members adhere to Conference bylaws and the enforcement of Grant of Rights agreements."
The Big 12 bylaws require any withdrawing member to give the league at least 18 months' notice. There also is a hefty exit fee -- departing schools must pay the league a "commitment buyout fee," which is an amount equal to the sum of distributions that otherwise would be paid to the school during the final two years of its membership. Exiting schools, according to the bylaws, "shall be deemed to have agreed to forfeit all distributions of any type that otherwise would have been made to the withdrawing member during the interim period" between the notice date and the actual departure date.
Last year, the Big 12 distributed about $38 million to each of its members, third most among Power 5 conferences, so Texas and Oklahoma would owe about $76 million each.
One source said the Big 12 also discussed the possibility of finding more revenue for Texas and OU if their motivation to exit is driven by money.
OU and Texas also signed a Big 12 grant-of-rights agreement, in which they granted their first- and second-tier media rights for football and men's basketball to the conference through June 30, 2025. That means the Big 12 would still own the schools' media rights for those sports -- even if they are no longer members -- until the agreement expires.
- Excerpts from espn, 22 July 2021 @ 9:01 p.m. CT
I know I am about to sound revengeful and probably stupid, but I am ready to tell them to go rather than give them anything else especially Texas. What sport have they been relevant in the past 5 to 6 years? Every time I see the Longhorn network, I get furious.
But I am also a realist and I know Baylor can't compete with the money. I just hate what may happen to our recruiting promise.
DoubtfulDanaDane said:
Congrats, Texas. You get 10 more years of Kim constantly kicking your ass until she retires.
Different conference, same ass kicking.
Are you saying, ut won the Big 12 in men's basketball? Pretty sure they did not!bawitdaball said:LadyChickBear said:slimecap said:
BIG 12 OFFICIALS MEET
to discuss possible departures of Oklahoma and Texas to SEC
The Big 12 athletic directors and their university presidents and chancellors held a videoconference on Thursday evening to discuss the possible moves. Both OU and Texas were invited to the meeting but declined to participate in the call, sources said.
In a statement provided to ESPN, the Big 12 said, "There is a recognition that institutions may act in their own self-interest, however there is an expectation that members adhere to Conference bylaws and the enforcement of Grant of Rights agreements."
The Big 12 bylaws require any withdrawing member to give the league at least 18 months' notice. There also is a hefty exit fee -- departing schools must pay the league a "commitment buyout fee," which is an amount equal to the sum of distributions that otherwise would be paid to the school during the final two years of its membership. Exiting schools, according to the bylaws, "shall be deemed to have agreed to forfeit all distributions of any type that otherwise would have been made to the withdrawing member during the interim period" between the notice date and the actual departure date.
Last year, the Big 12 distributed about $38 million to each of its members, third most among Power 5 conferences, so Texas and Oklahoma would owe about $76 million each.
One source said the Big 12 also discussed the possibility of finding more revenue for Texas and OU if their motivation to exit is driven by money.
OU and Texas also signed a Big 12 grant-of-rights agreement, in which they granted their first- and second-tier media rights for football and men's basketball to the conference through June 30, 2025. That means the Big 12 would still own the schools' media rights for those sports -- even if they are no longer members -- until the agreement expires.
- Excerpts from espn, 22 July 2021 @ 9:01 p.m. CT
I know I am about to sound revengeful and probably stupid, but I am ready to tell them to go rather than give them anything else especially Texas. What sport have they been relevant in the past 5 to 6 years? Every time I see the Longhorn network, I get furious.
But I am also a realist and I know Baylor can't compete with the money. I just hate what may happen to our recruiting promise.
To be fair, Texas won the directors cup this last year. So claiming they aren't relevant is a bit of an emotional response. They played in the NC game for volleyball, we're in the final four in baseball. Softball made a super regional. They won the National Championship in men's swimming/diving, rowing and women's tennis. There women's basketball was an elite 8 finisher - same as us. Men's tennis was in the final four. They struggled in football but still won their bowl game, and men's basketball won the Big 12 and then laid a goose egg during March Madness. We don't like what they are doing, and it's mainly because we weren't prepared. But they are not irrelevant.