Facts & very clear to the point Bible verses??

Psshhh - gotta use feelings man! Its the only language they'll accept. (Be sure the feelings are leftist approved - they are starting to cross the streams on that so its hard to keep up.)

(Great post)

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Hmmmm, vaping is not at all the same thing as drug trafficking.

Next week on RT: The insidious Cola plot to poison Russian Youth!

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I haven't read the news on this particular story, but someone told me that the vape pods contained illegal drugs. Is that true?

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yes, most all weed vapes contain hash oil. Maybe she will have a greater respect for the USA when she gets back here eventually.

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What in this story makes you think she disrespects the US?

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I dont think she disrespects the US other than she doesnt like the anthem being played but maybe she will realize that we have it pretty good here.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html

"I'm going to protest regardless," she said. "I'm not going to be out there for the national anthem. If the league continues to want to play it, that's fine. It will be all season long, I'll not be out there. I feel like more are going to probably do the same thing. I can only speak for myself."

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Again, what makes you think she disrespects the U.S.?

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Her words and actions? What makes you think she is gay?

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Those words aren't disrespectful, nor were her actions. What else you got?

And she's gay because God made her that way.

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God did not make her gay…Satan, perhaps.

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God gave Satan genetic overwrite authority? Huh.

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Naw…people choose to be gay. God certainly didn't make them that way.

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muddybrazos said:

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quash said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Hmmmm, vaping is not at all the same thing as drug trafficking.

Next week on RT: The insidious Cola plot to poison Russian Youth!

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I haven't read the news on this particular story, but someone told me that the vape pods contained illegal drugs. Is that true?

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yes, most all weed vapes contain hash oil. Maybe she will have a greater respect for the USA when she gets back here eventually.

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What in this story makes you think she disrespects the US?

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I dont think she disrespects the US other than she doesnt like the anthem being played but maybe she will realize that we have it pretty good here.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html

"I'm going to protest regardless," she said. "I'm not going to be out there for the national anthem. If the league continues to want to play it, that's fine. It will be all season long, I'll not be out there. I feel like more are going to probably do the same thing. I can only speak for myself."

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Again, what makes you think she disrespects the U.S.?

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Her words and actions? What makes you think she is gay?

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Those words aren't disrespectful, nor were her actions. What else you got?

And she's gay because God made her that way.

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God did not make her gay…Satan, perhaps.

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God gave Satan genetic overwrite authority? Huh.

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Go ahead and point out on the double helix where the gay combo is.

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Not that anyone on this site cares about science, but homosexuality is a natural phenomenon also observed in animal species. If you believe God created the natural world, then you must also accept that homosexuality is part of his creation. Unless, of course, you choose to believe that are penguin males having homosexual sex because the devil made them do it.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/190987/scientists-explore-evolution-animal-homosexuality/

Same-sex behaviour ranging from co-parenting to sex has been observed in over 1,000 species with likely many more as researchers begin to look for the behaviour explicitly. Homosexuality is widespread, with bisexuality even more prevalent across species.

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I care about science. Science says there's no gay gene. If you need a link to the latest study confirming that, I'll be happy to link it, but Google works well.

And once again you're referring to learned behavior. Learned behavior is a hallmark of the animal world.

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It doesn't require a specific gene to be natural. Most traits are scattered across loads of locations. But there is the fact that mothers of homosexual men are a little more fertile, meaning there's a genetically derived advantage.

And God doesn't make people gay. Because god doesn't make people.

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muddybrazos said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Hmmmm, vaping is not at all the same thing as drug trafficking.

Next week on RT: The insidious Cola plot to poison Russian Youth!

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I haven't read the news on this particular story, but someone told me that the vape pods contained illegal drugs. Is that true?

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yes, most all weed vapes contain hash oil. Maybe she will have a greater respect for the USA when she gets back here eventually.

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What in this story makes you think she disrespects the US?

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I dont think she disrespects the US other than she doesnt like the anthem being played but maybe she will realize that we have it pretty good here.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html

"I'm going to protest regardless," she said. "I'm not going to be out there for the national anthem. If the league continues to want to play it, that's fine. It will be all season long, I'll not be out there. I feel like more are going to probably do the same thing. I can only speak for myself."

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Again, what makes you think she disrespects the U.S.?

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Her words and actions? What makes you think she is gay?

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Those words aren't disrespectful, nor were her actions. What else you got?

And she's gay because God made her that way.

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God did not make her gay…Satan, perhaps.

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God gave Satan genetic overwrite authority? Huh.

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Go ahead and point out on the double helix where the gay combo is.

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Not that anyone on this site cares about science, but homosexuality is a natural phenomenon also observed in animal species. If you believe God created the natural world, then you must also accept that homosexuality is part of his creation. Unless, of course, you choose to believe that are penguin males having homosexual sex because the devil made them do it.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/190987/scientists-explore-evolution-animal-homosexuality/

Same-sex behaviour ranging from co-parenting to sex has been observed in over 1,000 species with likely many more as researchers begin to look for the behaviour explicitly. Homosexuality is widespread, with bisexuality even more prevalent across species.

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I care about science. Science says there's no gay gene. If you need a link to the latest study confirming that, I'll be happy to link it, but Google works well.

And once again you're referring to learned behavior. Learned behavior is a hallmark of the animal world.

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It doesn't require a specific gene to be natural. Most traits are scattered across loads of locations. But there is the fact that mothers of homosexual men are a little more fertile, meaning there's a genetically derived advantage.

And God doesn't make people gay. Because god doesn't make people.

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I've seen that BS assessment on fertile women. Micro level sample size and a drastic stretch. It also runs counter to demographic realities that show most homosexuals come from small and/or single parent households.

The reality is they cannot reliably tie any genetic factor to homosexuality because each profile they settle on still expressed heterosexuality in both men and women the majority of the time. The variance only ties to ratios modestly above generally accepted ratios for the population in general.

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quash said:

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muddybrazos said:

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quash said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Hmmmm, vaping is not at all the same thing as drug trafficking.

Next week on RT: The insidious Cola plot to poison Russian Youth!

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I haven't read the news on this particular story, but someone told me that the vape pods contained illegal drugs. Is that true?

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yes, most all weed vapes contain hash oil. Maybe she will have a greater respect for the USA when she gets back here eventually.

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What in this story makes you think she disrespects the US?

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I dont think she disrespects the US other than she doesnt like the anthem being played but maybe she will realize that we have it pretty good here.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html

"I'm going to protest regardless," she said. "I'm not going to be out there for the national anthem. If the league continues to want to play it, that's fine. It will be all season long, I'll not be out there. I feel like more are going to probably do the same thing. I can only speak for myself."

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Again, what makes you think she disrespects the U.S.?

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Her words and actions? What makes you think she is gay?

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Those words aren't disrespectful, nor were her actions. What else you got?

And she's gay because God made her that way.

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God did not make her gay…Satan, perhaps.

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God gave Satan genetic overwrite authority? Huh.

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Go ahead and point out on the double helix where the gay combo is.

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Homosexuality is found in many animals. I don't think there is a gay gene though. Nor a straight one.

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God says its unnatural in Romans 1. I'll go with what he says over you.

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The Greek for homosexuality in the NT also refers to homosexual assault.

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It is a harmful, offensive, or provocative touching. That makes it assault every single time.

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God says its unnatural in Romans 1. I'll go with what he says over you.

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The Greek for homosexuality in the NT also refers to homosexual assault.

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It is a harmful, offensive, or provocative touching. That makes it assault every single time.

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I don't agree. My personal opinion is that God isn't dumb, he doesn't hand out rules for the fun of it. That's what the OT Pharisees were doing, and the NT Southern Baptists.

Much like the Catholic literal interpretation of sow your seed, have as many babies as you can, the OT laws against homosexuality were more of less vital to ensuring the survival of humanity at first, the survival of the chosen people afterwards, and the survival of a fledgling Christian church last.

Take any rule from the OT that modern Christianity doesn't follow, and it's the same argument. God is not static. We get to eat bacon now because we know about washing our hands after we slaughter the pig, before we go pork the wife or husband.

And while there were very good reasons to make many children before, the survival of God's people no longer depends on it. If you still think homosexuality is a sin, I think you need to avoid condoms, birth control, have church on Saturday, follow all the rituals associated with Sabbath, not celebrate Christmas or Easter, and on and on. The New Testament much less specifically targets consensual homosexuality as sin. And given Paul's preaching against the sins of the Romans, given how common male sex slaves were, or the elites raping whoever they wanted, the case can be made that the NT never actually targets homosexuality.

In any case, I know some seriously gay people. I mean they are really gay. I don't think the devil made them that way, I just think even 500 years ago they'd be the same way, just as gay, but of course burned at the stake by married a horns kids.

Better than a team with satan

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God says its unnatural in Romans 1. I'll go with what he says over you.

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The Greek for homosexuality in the NT also refers to homosexual assault. It is used when referring to the Romans keeping make sex slaves, to avoid impregnation women, for example.

Of all people of course it's you that thinks you can paraphrase 1 verse then claim victory. You must be on a team with Mortha.

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There are no 'victories' on an internet message board.

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God says its unnatural in Romans 1. I'll go with what he says over you.

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The Greek for homosexuality in the NT also refers to homosexual assault.

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It is a harmful, offensive, or provocative touching. That makes it assault every single time.

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I don't agree. My personal opinion is that God isn't dumb, he doesn't hand out rules for the fun of it. That's what the OT Pharisees were doing, and the NT Southern Baptists.

Much like the Catholic literal interpretation of sow your seed, have as many babies as you can, the OT laws against homosexuality were more of less vital to ensuring the survival of humanity at first, the survival of the chosen people afterwards, and the survival of a fledgling Christian church last.

Take any rule from the OT that modern Christianity doesn't follow, and it's the same argument. God is not static. We get to eat bacon now because we know about washing our hands after we slaughter the pig, before we go pork the wife or husband.

And while there were very good reasons to make many children before, the survival of God's people no longer depends on it. If you still think homosexuality is a sin, I think you need to avoid condoms, birth control, have church on Saturday, follow all the rituals associated with Sabbath, not celebrate Christmas or Easter, and on and on. The New Testament much less specifically targets consensual homosexuality as sin. And given Paul's preaching against the sins of the Romans, given how common male sex slaves were, or the elites raping whoever they wanted, the case can be made that the NT never actually targets homosexuality.

In any case, I know some seriously gay people. I mean they are really gay. I don't think the devil made them that way, I just think even 500 years ago they'd be the same way, just as gay, but of course burned at the stake by married a horns kids.

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Matt. 19 ... how do you explain away?

As far as Brittney Griner, the Phoenix Mercury center and 2019 WNBA MVP runner-up, is concerned, there's no valid reason for playing the national anthem before sports events and she plans to take a stand by continuing to remain in the locker room while it is played.

"I honestly feel we should not play the national anthem during our season," Griner said (via the Arizona Republic). "I think we should take that much of a stand."

Griner is in a tough position and her country is trying to get her out of Russia. It is disheartening to see the Russian Government continue to delay hearings and decisions adding months on to her incarceration.

I think it is a catch-22 to raise attention to get her out. Surely we need to keep this issue in the forefront, but the Russian Government might react to political pressure by keeping her longer, just to demonstrate they are the ones in control of the situation..

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Griner is in a tough position and her country is trying to get her out of Russia. It is disheartening to see the Russian Government continue to delay hearings and decisions adding months on to her incarceration.

I think it is a catch-22 to raise attention to get her out. Surely we need to keep this issue in the forefront, but the Russian Government might react to political pressure by keeping her longer, just to demonstrate they are the ones in control of the situation..

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Yes back to the original subject matter, it is pretty obvious the Russian government is doing her wrong.

They probably are wanting to trade a serious criminal for her, which is all kinds of wrong.

I also don't see it as our administration has pushed this issue enough, they are probably not wanting to
step on toes.

The US needs to get her out of there for this relatively minor offense.

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I agree

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A logical person would. Liberals dont operate on logic - they operate on emotion. Nothing will change.

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I forgot to include the /s in my post.

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Lol. Not even

The Greek for homosexuality in the NT also refers to homosexual assault.

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I don't agree.

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No one except yourself cares about your opinion. Almost 2000 years of Christian teaching, plus another 2000 years of Hebraic teaching, plus the objective word of scripture disagrees with you and teaches that Homosexual conduct is wrong. Authority of the Sages or Porterosos feelings?

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Griner is in a tough position and her country is trying to get her out of Russia. It is disheartening to see the Russian Government continue to delay hearings and decisions adding months on to her incarceration.

I think it is a catch-22 to raise attention to get her out. Surely we need to keep this issue in the forefront, but the Russian Government might react to political pressure by keeping her longer, just to demonstrate they are the ones in control of the situation..

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Yes back to the original subject matter, it is pretty obvious the Russian government is doing her wrong.

They probably are wanting to trade a serious criminal for her, which is all kinds of wrong.

I also don't see it as our administration has pushed this issue enough, they are probably not wanting to
step on toes.

The US needs to get her out of there for this relatively minor offense.

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Monday's hearing complicated things. Russian state media reported the government would free Griner in exchange for convicted arms trafficker Viktor Bout, also known as the "Merchant of Death." Bout was arrested in Thailand in 2008, extradited to the U.S. and sentenced to 25 years for conspiracy to kill U.S. citizens, delivery of anti-aircraft missiles and providing aid to a terrorist organization.

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Looks like Russia floated this trade out there, right now they are saying she will be detained for another 6 months.

Russia is being a jerk about this situation, trying to leverage it obviously for their advantage.

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Guy Noir said:

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Griner is in a tough position and her country is trying to get her out of Russia. It is disheartening to see the Russian Government continue to delay hearings and decisions adding months on to her incarceration.

I think it is a catch-22 to raise attention to get her out. Surely we need to keep this issue in the forefront, but the Russian Government might react to political pressure by keeping her longer, just to demonstrate they are the ones in control of the situation..

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Yes back to the original subject matter, it is pretty obvious the Russian government is doing her wrong.

They probably are wanting to trade a serious criminal for her, which is all kinds of wrong.

I also don't see it as our administration has pushed this issue enough, they are probably not wanting to
step on toes.

The US needs to get her out of there for this relatively minor offense.

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Monday's hearing complicated things. Russian state media reported the government would free Griner in exchange for convicted arms trafficker Viktor Bout, also known as the "Merchant of Death." Bout was arrested in Thailand in 2008, extradited to the U.S. and sentenced to 25 years for conspiracy to kill U.S. citizens, delivery of anti-aircraft missiles and providing aid to a terrorist organization.

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Looks like Russia floated this trade out there, right now they are saying she will be detained for another 6 months.

Russia is being a jerk about this situation, trying to leverage it obviously for their advantage.

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The movie Lord of War was loosely based on Viktor Bout.

One of my favorite movies of all time.

"They call me the Lord of War"
"Warlord"
"I prefer it my way"

There are at least 5-6 just perfect lines in that movie.

Brittney Griner says she voted for Joe Biden and is begging for him to get her home. https://t.co/UdWjPv9BOL

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 4, 2022

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Brittney Griner says she voted for Joe Biden and is begging for him to get her home. https://t.co/UdWjPv9BOL

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 4, 2022

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Biden will ' save ' her...I have no doubt of that .


Putin holds all the cards as the pressure on Biden to 'perform' is growing daily .


Whomever Putin is demanding as part of an exchange.....he's going to get.


Soon .

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Cobretti said:

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Brittney Griner says she voted for Joe Biden and is begging for him to get her home. https://t.co/UdWjPv9BOL

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 4, 2022

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She got all "patriotic" today real fast. Funny how quickly that happens when you need your country to save your ass.

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On the 4th of July, our family normally honors the service of those men who fought for our freedom, including my father who is a Vietnam War Veteran," another part of the letter reads. "It hurts thinking about how I usually celebrate this day because freedom means something completely different to me this year."

Is this what you are talking about?

She has always had total freedom even as a beloved openly gay woman at a christian University. It's not a bad thing that she is finally owning it. Hey, most people grow as a person as they age, this episode is forcing some quick growing up.