I would think the "guilty" plea is the prelude to a swap. There is also a U.S. Marine named Paul Whelan being held in Russia, so I'm thinking maybe a two-for-one swap, Griner and Whelan for the arms dealer, Viktor Bout.

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I would think the "guilty" plea is the prelude to a swap. There is also a U.S. Marine named Paul Whelan being held in Russia, so I'm thinking maybe a two-for-one swap, Griner and Whelan for the arms dealer, Viktor Bout.

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Trade dead line is approaching. Could use another middle relief pitcher as well.

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Dennis Eckersley for a closer.

He Hate Me said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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JXL said:

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I would think the "guilty" plea is the prelude to a swap. There is also a U.S. Marine named Paul Whelan being held in Russia, so I'm thinking maybe a two-for-one swap, Griner and Whelan for the arms dealer, Viktor Bout.

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Trade dead line is approaching. Could use another middle relief pitcher as well.

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Dennis Eckersley for a closer.

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Hall of Famer, but still gave up a meatball to a crippled Gibson.

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He Hate Me said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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I would think the "guilty" plea is the prelude to a swap. There is also a U.S. Marine named Paul Whelan being held in Russia, so I'm thinking maybe a two-for-one swap, Griner and Whelan for the arms dealer, Viktor Bout.

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Trade dead line is approaching. Could use another middle relief pitcher as well.

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Dennis Eckersley for a closer.

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Hall of Famer, but still gave up a meatball to a crippled Gibson.

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One of the greatest moments in MLB history and I was pulling for the As.

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

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Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

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Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

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Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

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Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

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Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

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Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

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This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

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With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

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To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

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Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

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I have no idea if she did any crime .

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She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

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Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

This was DOJ’s press release related to the conviction of Viktor Bout. https://t.co/XNeJxE4jI3 pic.twitter.com/0QRkvfG8y5

— Jerry Dunleavy (@JerryDunleavy) July 8, 2022

Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

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Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

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This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

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I have no idea if she did any crime .

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She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

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Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

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Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

---

Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

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I have no idea if she did any crime .

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She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

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Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

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Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

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You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

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Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

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I agree with Canada. The amount of hash was miniscule, even for Russia. The most likely explanation was that some Russian official decided to make an example of a prominent American, and with her attitude and lifestyle Ms. Griner was an obvious target.

She was foolish enough to forget that Russia is not the US, and I think Russian officials were looking to collect bargaining chips in advance of invading Ukraine.

Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

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Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

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Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

---

I have no idea if she did any crime .

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She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

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Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

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Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

---

You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

---

Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

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Really? "Follow the lesbian ball tosser, Dimitri. She will be our Trump card one day. Mwahahaha!!!"

Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

---

Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

---

I have no idea if she did any crime .

---

She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

---

Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

---

How did she just plead? Guilty?

---

Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

---

You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

---

Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

---

Really? "Follow the lesbian ball tosser, Dimitri. She will be our Trump card one day. Mwahahaha!!!"

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Tasha, I find Moose and Squirrel next.

Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

---

Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

---

I have no idea if she did any crime .

---

She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

---

Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

---

Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

---

You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

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How about both.

Perhaps star players, on teams owned by Putin friendly oligarchs, have always been given a free pass so long as their crimes were only against themselves. Then, when it came time to find a pawns, Putin's staff says to his intelligence staff "find me an American that we can charge and use for some upcoming negotiations." His oligarch buddy just knows that this is a price he has to pay for all of the special treatment he has received over the years.

I'm sure US intelligence has info on foreign nationals that , if ever needed, they could use to collect pawns.

Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

---

Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

---

I have no idea if she did any crime .

---

She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

---

Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

---

How did she just plead? Guilty?

---

Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

---

You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

---

Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

---

Really? "Follow the lesbian ball tosser, Dimitri. She will be our Trump card one day. Mwahahaha!!!"

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not a trump card but just another pawn. You're playing the wrong game.

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Golem said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Wangchung said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

---

Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

---

Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

---

Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

---

Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

---

Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

---

Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

---

This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

---

With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

---

To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

---

Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

---

I have no idea if she did any crime .

---

She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

---

Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

---

How did she just plead? Guilty?

---

Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

---

You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

---

Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

---

Really? "Follow the lesbian ball tosser, Dimitri. She will be our Trump card one day. Mwahahaha!!!"

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not a trump card but just another pawn. You're playing the wrong game.

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Any other Americans in jail over there? Or is she the only one?

We should not trade a dangerous criminal for her. This is not a situation of her being unjustly held. She violated another country's law. She is a sophisticated person who had frequented the country and not a stupid tourist. She was not arrested for performing some morally courageous act.

Yes, it sucks. Yes, I feel awful for her. Yes, I think she should take personal responsibility. Yes, we should not expect "white privilege" and respect the laws of second-world countries and not think because we're Americans we get a pass. Ironically, she is always talking about "equity" and "privilege" then she should expect "equity" treatment like any other Jane that was caught with drugs ... just because she's an intersectional, extremely minor sports figure should not entitle here to privileged treatment.

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Golem said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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I think they are resuming her "show trial" today.

Seriously the Administration needs to intervene on her behalf.

She may have done something stupid, IDK, it sure doesn't deserve 10 years in prison.

I hope she regains her freedom soon.

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Are you willing to release a convicted Russian spy in order to secure her release ?


That's what its going to take.


This is Putin's version of kidnapping and blackmail.

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Well,
1. She's young and stupid
2. She went to Baylor and that means something to me (Natty)
3. She used horrible judgement
4. I hope the consequences won't be forever

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Biden will soon trade a convicted, top level Russian spy for your former BU basketball player.

Really think Biden would make a similar arrangement for your release ? For mine ?

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Nowhere did I recommend that trade.

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Didn't say you did .


So would Biden 'rescue' either you or I ?

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Probably not. Griner probably wouldn't bother advocating my case, either. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to advocate for her release. Their likeliness to do the right thing holds little bearing on my decision to do the right thing.

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This is pretty much my position. Just can't have Americans being held like this for what I consider a minor offense. Cannibis Oil in a Vape cartridge or something like it.

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With respect I disagree .

Can't release known spies or terrorists every single time one of our citizens is 'legally' kidnapped . Otherwise it would be pointless to put convicted spies and terrorists in prison.

All anyone would have to do is arrest any of the hundreds of thousands of US citizens overseas.......and bang......their spies are freed.

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To be clear. I am not advocating Russia's desired trade.

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Even if the USA gave over the arms dealer, we would do well to let Russia keep BG. The US doesn't need anymore woke celebrities. She did the crime. Let her do the time.

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I have no idea if she did any crime .

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She hasn't denied breaking their laws. She committed the crime. Either way, the US is better off without antiAmerican lesbian activists using their manufactured notoriety to corrupt kids.

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Disagree

Innocent until proven guilty .


Otherwise we are no better than Putin .

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How did she just plead? Guilty?

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Under the circumstances I probably would too.

When she gets back to the US....as she certainly will be prior to the November mid terms ......maybe we will get the whole story .

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You think Putin set up a female basketball player for war leverage….or….

An entitled lesbian anti American athlete thought she could get away with breaking drug laws?

Which is more likely?

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Suspect the Russians knew all about her habits long ago........a card to be played whenever Putin figured he could generate the biggest possible benefit .

Both comments are correct.

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Really? "Follow the lesbian ball tosser, Dimitri. She will be our Trump card one day. Mwahahaha!!!"

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Tasha, I find Moose and Squirrel next.

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I wonder if she's still kneeling in protest of the < 10 unarmed black people killed annually by police and oppressed because #slavery.

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I actually heard a liberal address this the other day on their podcast when they were talking about this and mass shootings the other day. They mentioned that the mind cannot grasp the amount of people 335 million represents and with the number of people breaking the law and the way they often respond to police, belligerant, aggressive, uncooperative, violently, etc. they were surprised that more people aren't killed.

Many people bring up other countries when mentioning the lack of police killings on average, they mentioned our numbers have a lot to do with the way so many react to being stopped by police.

Can't remember who it was, it wasn't Bill Mauer, but had the same pragmatic, but deeply liberal bent.

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I think a lot of it goes back to the drug trade. I was watching Narcos last night, and it was prescient as historical fiction. The narrator talked about in the last 70s going from chasing a couple of 20-something white dudes in flip flops with a kilo of grass to facing heavily armed gangs of Columbians and other street gangs. Cops went from facing "average" criminals that may have a pistol but generally non-violent to heavily armed criminals that grew up in the environment of the violent drug trade and see cops as just another gang rival.

I don't fully give cops a pass. I think they too often neglect community policing, building relationships and trust, and defer to SWAT team / militarized / cowboy show of force.

In a world of disinformation by corporate media, nothing is as perverse as police shootings particular of "unarmed" black men, and the ignorance of many bears this out. Outside of the Russia hoax, the Michael Brown and similar cases may be the biggest disinformation campaigns launched by the corporate media and their special interest allies.

Did Joe get her out yet?

If this was Trump, CNN would be having daily panel discussions and a little graphic in the corner with a Brittney picture. Of course none of that would be needed since Trump would have her out by now.

I feel sorry for BG who got arrested when an incompetent and apathetic administration is running the show.

BearFan33 said:

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Did Joe get her out yet?

If this was Trump, CNN would be having daily panel discussions and a little graphic in the corner with a Brittney picture. Of course none of that would be needed since Trump would have her out by now.

I feel sorry for BG who got arrested when an incompetent and apathetic administration is running the show.

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Agreed. There's would be daily outrage, homophobic and racist and sexist accusations and a countdown kairon.

LeBron James says if he were Brittney Griner, he'd question returning to the United States. https://t.co/f8y7bKtoZk

— TMZ (@TMZ) July 12, 2022

Oh please let this happen.

Cobretti said:

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LeBron James says if he were Brittney Griner, he'd question returning to the United States. https://t.co/f8y7bKtoZk

— TMZ (@TMZ) July 12, 2022

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Ok, LeBron, I am happy for ya, and I am gonna let you finish.

But, Colin Kaepernick had one of the greatest make-an-a'ss-of-himself meltdowns of all time! Of all time!

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/34246519/wnba-star-brittney-griner-back-russian-court-trial-resumes

Trial continues. Free Brittney!

Brittney Griner's attorneys tell Russian judge she was prescribed medical marijuana.https://t.co/ncuuUgy1VQ

— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) July 16, 2022