Rather than a civil debate this thread has turned into hate on Waco
Waco1947
Waco1947 said:
Rather than a civil debate this thread has turned into hate on Waco
Waco1947 said:
Rather than a civil debate this thread has turned into hate on Waco
Proud 1992 Alum said:Waco1947 said:
Rather than a civil debate this thread has turned into hate on Waco
Well you started this thread by assuming to know the coach's heart and mind regarding prayer and his reasons for praying publicly. Maybe he wants to send a message to the kids who look up to him that faith is important. Criticizing him when you don't know his motives rubbed me the wrong way.
This is it.Golem said:Waco1947 said:I am not lying. Stop accusing of lying. Again, Jesus is praying over a meal just like I do over countless potluck dinners in churches but in each setting believers are assenting to a common faith in Jesus. Jesus did condemn pray with fellow or potential disciples.Golem said:Waco1947 said:Name calling would "the Pharisaical coach." I am sure he is a faithful man but he is a poor witness to his faith because he flies in the face of Jesus' clear command. The Supreme Court says that it is ok but Jesus does not.Proud 1992 Alum said:Waco1947 said:Name calling flies in the face of the love commandment. I suggest a deeper pray life.Proud 1992 Alum said:Waco1947 said:The coach is praying for appearances.Doc Holliday said:No.Waco1947 said:So very true but public pray still goes against Jesus' clear teaching.ScruffyD said:
as long as everyone's cool with a coach asking to read/pray from the Koran at midfield too.
Matthew 6:58 has nothing to do with whether we should pray in public or not. This passage is related to the reason we are praying.
What it's saying is don't pray for appearances. If you think this coach is praying for appearances, assert that, don't make up a false interpretation of where one can and can't pray.
How would you know ass**le?
Aren't you in effect name-calling by stating that the coach is praying for appearances? I ask again, how would you know?
Stop lying. Jesus specifically said don't pray like the Pharisees. For an example of a public prayer of thanks, see Jesus' prayer of thanksgiving in front of the 5,000.
Matt 14:19 And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. 20 They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 21 The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, besides women and children.
A prayer of thanksgiving after God meets the needs of your group is not only appropriate, it's exactly mimicking Christ.
You are lying. Jesus prayed in public. He prayed publicly in exactly the same way the coach did. He thanked God. To suggest He doesn't want us to pray in public at all, ever, is a lie. He demonstrated that public prayers of thanksgiving are acceptable.
Stop lying.