muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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The FBI is the new KGB...the muscle for the controlling Party .


Anyone who still can't accept this is ....

1. Blind

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2. Approves of what's happening .





Our country is in deep trouble .

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It certainly is.

When people openly approve of insurrection and violence against Congress, and then get upset when the FBI/DOJ goes after those who engaged in the insurrection and violence, we are indeed in trouble.

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The FBI had people planted in several of these groups stirring it up, they have people on social media stirring it up, they were working with social media to stir it up and you're unhappy that people are upset with the FBI?! They literally are creating crimes to investigate and punish people

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I haven't seen evidence of that. Just stuff like the Ray Epps conspiracy theory, which gets debunked and recycled over and over again.

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If you're debonking Ray Epps then why was he never arrested? Seems to me he did a lot more to stir up trouble than any of the others that just walked into the capitol. He was on video recruiting people to go into the capitol. Where are his charges?

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Because Trump dupes keep repeating debunked lies. He supported Trump.

A Trump Backer's Downfall as the Target of a Jan. 6 Conspiracy Theory
Ray Epps became the unwitting face of an attempt by pro-Trump forces to promote the baseless idea that the F.B.I. was behind the attack on the Capitol.

Ray Epps and his wife, Robyn Epps. Mr. Epps became the face of a conspiracy theory that rocked their lives as it spread into the mainstream.Credit...Alan Feuer/The New York Times

IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS Up a winding country road, in a trailer park a half-mile from a cattle ranch, lives a man whose life has been ruined by a Jan. 6 conspiracy theory.
Ray Epps has suffered enormously in the past 10 months as right-wing media figures and Republican politicians have baselessly described him as a covert government agent who helped to instigate the attack on the Capitol last year.
Strangers have assailed him as a coward and a traitor and have menacingly cautioned him to sleep with one eye open. He was forced to sell his business and his home in Arizona. Fearing for his safety and uncertain of his future, he and his wife moved into a mobile home in the foothills of the Rockies, with all of their belongings crammed into shipping containers in a high-desert meadow, a mile or two away.

"And for what lies?" Mr. Epps asked the other day with a look of pained exhaustion. "All of this, it's just been hell."
Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the

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The stories about Mr. Epps were quickly seized on by the Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who gave them a wider audience. They were also echoed by Republican members of Congress like Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.

Osodecentx said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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The FBI is the new KGB...the muscle for the controlling Party .


Anyone who still can't accept this is ....

1. Blind

or

2. Approves of what's happening .





Our country is in deep trouble .

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It certainly is.

When people openly approve of insurrection and violence against Congress, and then get upset when the FBI/DOJ goes after those who engaged in the insurrection and violence, we are indeed in trouble.

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The FBI had people planted in several of these groups stirring it up, they have people on social media stirring it up, they were working with social media to stir it up and you're unhappy that people are upset with the FBI?! They literally are creating crimes to investigate and punish people

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I haven't seen evidence of that. Just stuff like the Ray Epps conspiracy theory, which gets debunked and recycled over and over again.

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If you're debonking Ray Epps then why was he never arrested? Seems to me he did a lot more to stir up trouble than any of the others that just walked into the capitol. He was on video recruiting people to go into the capitol. Where are his charges?

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Because Trump dupes keep repeating debunked lies. He supported Trump.

A Trump Backer's Downfall as the Target of a Jan. 6 Conspiracy Theory
Ray Epps became the unwitting face of an attempt by pro-Trump forces to promote the baseless idea that the F.B.I. was behind the attack on the Capitol.

Ray Epps and his wife, Robyn Epps. Mr. Epps became the face of a conspiracy theory that rocked their lives as it spread into the mainstream.Credit...Alan Feuer/The New York Times

IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS Up a winding country road, in a trailer park a half-mile from a cattle ranch, lives a man whose life has been ruined by a Jan. 6 conspiracy theory.
Ray Epps has suffered enormously in the past 10 months as right-wing media figures and Republican politicians have baselessly described him as a covert government agent who helped to instigate the attack on the Capitol last year.
Strangers have assailed him as a coward and a traitor and have menacingly cautioned him to sleep with one eye open. He was forced to sell his business and his home in Arizona. Fearing for his safety and uncertain of his future, he and his wife moved into a mobile home in the foothills of the Rockies, with all of their belongings crammed into shipping containers in a high-desert meadow, a mile or two away.

"And for what lies?" Mr. Epps asked the other day with a look of pained exhaustion. "All of this, it's just been hell."
Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the

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The stories about Mr. Epps were quickly seized on by the Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who gave them a wider audience. They were also echoed by Republican members of Congress like Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.

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Poor guy just wants to be left alone. Good thing the NYtimes is doing a puff piece on him. He was seen on video in a restricted area instructing people to push through police barricades but obviously he's just a good guy who did nothing wrong.

It's obvious this whole Jan 6th was a set up by the regime so the dems can use this to go after Maga and Trump.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/

Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Does the NY times usually write articles about random Trump supporters that did nothing wrong on Jan 6th? I guess all this selectively edited video was done to frame a good ol boy who was just there to support Trump like a good American.

Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Why is he not being prosecuted with the others you describe?

The revolver pieces are very good on the subject and document many unindicted co conspirators. Epps is the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you read them.

muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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The FBI is the new KGB...the muscle for the controlling Party .


Anyone who still can't accept this is ....

1. Blind

or

2. Approves of what's happening .





Our country is in deep trouble .

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It certainly is.

When people openly approve of insurrection and violence against Congress, and then get upset when the FBI/DOJ goes after those who engaged in the insurrection and violence, we are indeed in trouble.

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The FBI had people planted in several of these groups stirring it up, they have people on social media stirring it up, they were working with social media to stir it up and you're unhappy that people are upset with the FBI?! They literally are creating crimes to investigate and punish people

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I haven't seen evidence of that. Just stuff like the Ray Epps conspiracy theory, which gets debunked and recycled over and over again.

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If you're debonking Ray Epps then why was he never arrested? Seems to me he did a lot more to stir up trouble than any of the others that just walked into the capitol. He was on video recruiting people to go into the capitol. Where are his charges?

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Sam won't accept anything unless it's first approved by the likes of Schiff and Pelosi.

BearFan33 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Why is he not being prosecuted with the others you describe?

The revolver pieces are very good on the subject and document many unindicted co conspirators. Epps is the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you read them.

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If you google "Ray Epps" you will see many articles.

He turned himself into authorities, they questioned him, and determined he did not commit a crime.

Revolver used selectively edited videos, if it matters to you.

Epps was one of your guys who heeded Trump's call. You're mad at him because he isn't in jail like some other rioters?

Osodecentx said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Why is he not being prosecuted with the others you describe?

The revolver pieces are very good on the subject and document many unindicted co conspirators. Epps is the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you read them.

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If you google "Ray Epps" you will see many articles.

He turned himself into authorities, they questioned him, and determined he did not commit a crime.

Revolver used selectively edited videos, if it matters to you.

Epps was one of your guys who heeded Trump's call. You're mad at him because he isn't in jail like some other rioters?

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Did you read the revolver work?

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Osodecentx said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Why is he not being prosecuted with the others you describe?

The revolver pieces are very good on the subject and document many unindicted co conspirators. Epps is the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you read them.

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If you google "Ray Epps" you will see many articles.

He turned himself into authorities, they questioned him, and determined he did not commit a crime.

Revolver used selectively edited videos, if it matters to you.

Epps was one of your guys who heeded Trump's call. You're mad at him because he isn't in jail like some other rioters?

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Did you read the revolver work?

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Did you read NYTimes work? Epps was legit MAGA. You needed a fall guy and picked one of your own dupes

muddybrazos said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Epps was one of your guys. He heeded Trump's call to come to DC. Then when you need a fall guy, you turn on your own and ruin his life.
Typical

Obscure right-wing media outlets, like Revolver News, used selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic to paint him as a secret federal asset in charge of a "breach team" responsible for setting off the riot at the Capitol.

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Why is he not being prosecuted with the others you describe?

The revolver pieces are very good on the subject and document many unindicted co conspirators. Epps is the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you read them.

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If you google "Ray Epps" you will see many articles.

He turned himself into authorities, they questioned him, and determined he did not commit a crime.

Revolver used selectively edited videos, if it matters to you.

Epps was one of your guys who heeded Trump's call. You're mad at him because he isn't in jail like some other rioters?

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Did you read the revolver work?

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Did you read NYTimes work? Epps was legit MAGA. You needed a fall guy and picked one of your own dupes

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Legit Magas got arrested and charged for anything they could get them on. The NY times damn sure doesnt go to bat for "Legit Magas". THe NY Times does however run cover for the regime and put out puff pieces when asked to do so.

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Exactly. Using almost anything in a full on leftist propaganda rag like The NY Times as some kind of objective journalistic proof for the validity anything the dementia Joe regime or the dims and their RINO allies in general are doing is like referencing PRAVDA to justify the actions of the commies during the days of the old Soviet Union. Heck, if anything it might be worse than that.

muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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The FBI is the new KGB...the muscle for the controlling Party .


Anyone who still can't accept this is ....

1. Blind

or

2. Approves of what's happening .





Our country is in deep trouble .

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It certainly is.

When people openly approve of insurrection and violence against Congress, and then get upset when the FBI/DOJ goes after those who engaged in the insurrection and violence, we are indeed in trouble.

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The FBI had people planted in several of these groups stirring it up, they have people on social media stirring it up, they were working with social media to stir it up and you're unhappy that people are upset with the FBI?! They literally are creating crimes to investigate and punish people

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I haven't seen evidence of that. Just stuff like the Ray Epps conspiracy theory, which gets debunked and recycled over and over again.

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If you're debonking Ray Epps then why was he never arrested?

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Probably because he didn't commit a crime.

If one takes time to read all the revolver material on the subject, Epps is the tip of the iceberg. Their work is better than anything the times has done in years. But since it's not full of Trump hate it will never be considered for any awards or the such.

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If one takes time to read all the revolver material on the subject, Epps is the tip of the iceberg. Their work is better than anything the times has done in years. But since it's not full of Trump hate it will never be considered for any awards or the such.

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Agreed, Darren Beattie is a great writer and is doing good work in exposing the regime.

muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Canada2017 said:

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The FBI is the new KGB...the muscle for the controlling Party .


Anyone who still can't accept this is ....

1. Blind

or

2. Approves of what's happening .





Our country is in deep trouble .

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It certainly is.

When people openly approve of insurrection and violence against Congress, and then get upset when the FBI/DOJ goes after those who engaged in the insurrection and violence, we are indeed in trouble.

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The FBI had people planted in several of these groups stirring it up, they have people on social media stirring it up, they were working with social media to stir it up and you're unhappy that people are upset with the FBI?! They literally are creating crimes to investigate and punish people

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I haven't seen evidence of that. Just stuff like the Ray Epps conspiracy theory, which gets debunked and recycled over and over again.

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If you're debonking Ray Epps then why was he never arrested?

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Probably because he didn't commit a crime.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ray-epps-uncharged-in-capitol-riot-but-feds-arrested-woman-engaged-in-similar-conduct

Deboonk!

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Genco was charged with knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, engaging in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions.

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If one takes time to read all the revolver material on the subject, Epps is the tip of the iceberg. Their work is better than anything the times has done in years. But since it's not full of Trump hate it will never be considered for any awards or the such.

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The Revolver post is laughable. Absolutely nothing but speculation.

From NYTimes:
But scores, if not hundreds, of people who appear to have committed minor crimes that day were investigated by the F.B.I. but have not been charged or taken into custody.

Mr. Epps said that he had acted stupidly at times when he and one of his sons took a last-minute trip to Washington for Mr. Trump's speech about election fraud. But he said that he had managed to avoid arrest because he reached out to the F.B.I. within minutes of discovering that agents wanted to speak with him.
On Jan. 8, 2021, just two days after the Capitol was attacked, Mr. Epps learned from a family member that the F.B.I. had issued a be-on-the-lookout alert in his name. He said he immediately called the bureau's National Threat Operations Center, and his phone records show that he spoke to agents there for nearly an hour.
The F.B.I. has repeatedly declined to comment on Mr. Epps, but his account of calling the operations center and of sitting down for a formal discussion with federal agents in March 2021 is backed by transcripts of those interviews reviewed by The New York Times.
The interview transcripts show that Mr. Epps told agents that he had spent much of his time at the Capitol seeking to calm down other rioters, an assertion supported by multiple video clips.
Mr. Epps, who questioned the results of the election, was also interviewed twice by the House select committee on Jan. 6. After his dealings with the panel were completed, officials released a statement saying he had told them that he never worked as an asset for, or an employee of, any federal law enforcement agency.

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Sam Lowry said:

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If one takes time to read all the revolver material on the subject, Epps is the tip of the iceberg. Their work is better than anything the times has done in years. But since it's not full of Trump hate it will never be considered for any awards or the such.

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The Revolver post is laughable. Absolutely nothing but speculation.

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You threaten democracy when you laugh at legitimate investigative journalism.

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Thankfully Sam isn't laughing at legitimate investigative journalism.

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The FBI seized his phone at a fast food restaurant. A federal judge issued a warrant.

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and..

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The seizure was lawful based on probable cause. FBI are not comparable to gestapo and such assertions diminish the credibility of the posters claiming such.

The Russian collusion claims were unfounded and damaged the Trump presidency. Some in the FBI were derelict in their duty and dishonest. The MSM cooperated in this effort.

Because Trump was treated unfairly doesn't excuse his excesses after the election.

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If they'd gone after Antifa like this, they'd have a lot more credibility.

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I relish the thought. Unfortunately our left-wing opponents aren't stupid enough to parade through the Capitol in broad daylight, without masks or uniforms, and linger for hours while taking selfies and posting them on social media.

Strongly doubt you will see either a Republican president in 2024 or 60 Republican senators .

For if one believes the Dems stole the 2020 election 'generating' 81 million votes for old man Biden …..why wouldn't they merely repeat the process with the coming mid terms and 2024 ?

They are bold enough to. For sure.

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Canada2017 said:

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Strongly doubt you will see either a Republican president in 2024 or 60 Republican senators .

For if one believes the Dems stole the 2020 election 'generating' 81 million votes for old man Biden …..why wouldn't they merely repeat the process with the coming mid terms and 2024 ?

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You can only steal close elections.

2024 will not be close.

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Agreed

Dems will 'win' by at least 6 million votes .

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Canada2017 said:

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Strongly doubt you will see either a Republican president in 2024 or 60 Republican senators .

For if one believes the Dems stole the 2020 election 'generating' 81 million votes for old man Biden …..why wouldn't they merely repeat the process with the coming mid terms and 2024 ?

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You can only steal close elections.

2024 will not be close.

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Agreed

Dems will 'win' by at least 6 million votes

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Popular vote, sure. they can and do crank out ballots in big blue cities in big blue states. But red state legislatures have already clipped the wings of their own big blue city machines, and I think you will see more improvements in the next sessions at the state level.

And don't sleep on the PA Gov race. Trafalgar has it at 47-45. That's 8pts undecided. They are likely to break decidedly for Mastriano..... Both PA houses are already GOP controlled. Ifm Dems lose the Gov mansion, PA voting laws will get fixed.

Federalism tends to work. It's messy, slow, uneven, always incomplete, but Dems have rice on their elbows and the trend is going to work against them for the next few years.

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Canada2017 said:

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Strongly doubt you will see either a Republican president in 2024 or 60 Republican senators .

For if one believes the Dems stole the 2020 election 'generating' 81 million votes for old man Biden …..why wouldn't they merely repeat the process with the coming mid terms and 2024 ?

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You can only steal close elections.

2024 will not be close.

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Agreed

Dems will 'win' by at least 6 million votes .

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why do you keep bringing up popular vote numbers? We are still a constitutional republic with an electroral college.

Have gou joined the cry babies who dont understand how our govt works?

The politicians and media know the truth but use it to work up the sheeple