The Wackadoodle Wave

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Sam Lowry
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The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
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That's a little extreme. Both sides are being taken over by extremism, and the root cause is the same. Americans are sick of American politics. We are not diverging on main issues any more than in the past, we are just being divided.

And rather than unite in the middle we listen to the crazies on the fringe, hoping maybe at least they can change something. Its just human nature. I agree things will get worse before they get better, but it's not just Trump and his takeover thats wack.
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But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe CRT and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, AOC, Rashida Tliab, Cory Bush and Pramila Jayapal have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.
Edited, and probably more even more accurate. Yet not a problem at all to the editors of the Atlantic.
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Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
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Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
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The Wackadoodle Wave vs. the Alzheimer's Elites (that have declared war on the lower and middle classes).

Decisions.......decisions!!! Just who should I vote for? This one is a toughy! I might just have to flip a coin. LOL!!!!
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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That's a lot of words that can be summed up by one: COPE.
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Which side tries to **** little kids and takes them to ****** shows? I want to stay on the opposite side of them.
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Wangchung said:

Which side tries to **** little kids and takes them to ****** shows? I want to stay on the opposite side of them.


Sam doesn't care about that. He's cool with child sexual abuse as long as you wear a mask, get quadruple boosted and don't make mean tweets.
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Porteroso said:

That's a little extreme. Both sides are being taken over by extremism, and the root cause is the same. Americans are sick of American politics. We are not diverging on main issues any more than in the past, we are just being divided.

And rather than unite in the middle we listen to the crazies on the fringe, hoping maybe at least they can change something. Its just human nature. I agree things will get worse before they get better, but it's not just Trump and his takeover thats wack.
The left calls every batch of republicans extremists and then pretends they wish the latest batch was like the old.

Reagan was going to give us nuclear armageddon, W was reviled every bit as much as Trump on the coasts and now he's gushed about on Kimmel and mea culpaed by Bill Maher, Romney was an existential threat that Obama told us in debate "the 80s called and they want their foreign policy back" when he cited Russia as a geopolitical foe and now he's a hero for voting to impeach Trump, the name Cheney was synonymous with Satan the first decade of the century, McCain became a man of honor after being reviled in 08, and DeSantis is already being called "worse than Trump" by partisan hacks.

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Harrison Bergeron
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Articles like this is why we have such a stupid populace. I miss actual journalism.
Sam Lowry
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Articles like this is why we have such a stupid populace.
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LIB,MR BEARS
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Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Articles like this is why we have such a stupid populace.
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Pirate much?
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Articles like this is why we have such a stupid populace.
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Pirate much?
His political heroes are certainly walking the plank.
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Stopped reading at 'false claims about the 2020 election.'

The fraud was rampant. Will only vote for candidates that hear our concerns on securing elections. It is the ONLY issue until it is solved.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Articles like this is why we have such a stupid populace.
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Pirate much?


You know how much Sam loves masks.
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"Whack-a-doodle Wave" = how our-of-touch Democrat elites define a massive rejection by a silent, broad-spectrum majority of ordinary Americans
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Porteroso said:

That's a little extreme. Both sides are being taken over by extremism, and the root cause is the same. Americans are sick of American politics. We are not diverging on main issues any more than in the past, we are just being divided.

And rather than unite in the middle we listen to the crazies on the fringe, hoping maybe at least they can change something. Its just human nature. I agree things will get worse before they get better, but it's not just Trump and his takeover thats wack.


What are some Examples of Republican "extremism"?

Republicans as aren't the answer but democrat socialists are definitely the emblem.
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The neoliberal establishment that is "normal" and prints trillions of dollars, gets us into forever wars and fleeces the middle class is extremely radical and yet we don't realize it.
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Fre3dombear said:

Porteroso said:

That's a little extreme. Both sides are being taken over by extremism, and the root cause is the same. Americans are sick of American politics. We are not diverging on main issues any more than in the past, we are just being divided.

And rather than unite in the middle we listen to the crazies on the fringe, hoping maybe at least they can change something. Its just human nature. I agree things will get worse before they get better, but it's not just Trump and his takeover thats wack.


What are some Examples of Republican "extremism"?

Republicans as aren't the answer but democrat socialists are definitely the emblem.


Racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, Islamophobia, extremism, fascism all defined by the moron class as "disagrees with me."

Here's an exercise anyone with a brain can undergo (so not the journos) : look at the party platforms in 2000 and 2022 ... which one is the most different t? That's the one moving to the extremes and starting divisive culture wars.
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I saw a car accident some years ago which made me shake my head. Some guy drove past one accident, turned his head to gawk at the accident as he passed, and therefore drove into the back of the car in front of him when it slowed, driving that car into the car in front of it.

Potential for the same thing exists here. You can look back at 1994, 2010, even 2016, apply silly names if you like, but missing what's going on now, the issues which matter and the problems we seriously need to address, will likely end up in a bad way.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
The Squad doesn't constitute a wave, nor do Greene and Boebert on their own. The point is that Greene and Boebert are likely to be joined by a raft of others, some already known and some less so, who could give their faction real influence in the legislature. Could the same thing happen on the Democratic side? Sure, but that would be a different argument requiring its own evidence.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
The Squad doesn't constitute a wave, nor do Greene and Boebert on their own. The point is that Greene and Boebert are likely to be joined by a raft of others, some already known and some less so, who could give their faction real influence in the legislature. Could the same thing happen on the Democratic side? Sure, but that would be a different argument requiring its own evidence.


Nice try, but you basically got Private Pyle'd on this thread.

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Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
McCarthy is already showing it's going to be crazytown in the House if Republicans take control, and that seems likely.

It could turn out well for Democrats as America will be so sickened at what they see, they will tilt heavy to Dems in '24.

McCarthy has already indicated that he's willing to be irresponsible and play chicken with the debt ceiling to extort Democrats.

And if McCarthy doesn't bend the knee to Trump and other radicals, they will replace him with someone even less responsible.

At any rate, we will at least have government dysfunction and gridlock.

On top of that, Trump will probably run, thiinking the fix will be in for him. And one of the few people less popular than Joe Biden right now is Trump.
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C. Jordan said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
McCarthy is already showing it's going to be crazytown in the House if Republicans take control, and that seems likely.

It could turn out well for Democrats as America will be so sickened at what they see, they will tilt heavy to Dems in '24.

McCarthy has already indicated that he's willing to be irresponsible and play chicken with the debt ceiling to extort Democrats.

And if McCarthy doesn't bend the knee to Trump and other radicals, they will replace him with someone even less responsible.

At any rate, we will at least have government dysfunction and gridlock.

On top of that, Trump will probably run, thiinking the fix will be in for him. And one of the few people less popular than Joe Biden right now is Trump.
Blah, blah, blah, given your hot takes McCarthy is going to be a raging success.

You were crowing about how great the mid terms were looking for Dems after you got giddy about infanticide allegedly driving people to the polls.

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whitetrash said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
The Squad doesn't constitute a wave, nor do Greene and Boebert on their own. The point is that Greene and Boebert are likely to be joined by a raft of others, some already known and some less so, who could give their faction real influence in the legislature. Could the same thing happen on the Democratic side? Sure, but that would be a different argument requiring its own evidence.


Nice try, but you basically got Private Pyle'd on this thread.
I got whatabouted, as usual, except this time you can't even point to something Democrats are actually doing. You just made something up and said it was "probably" more accurate...LOL.
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Ursus Americanus
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War is good now has been since 2009.
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Sam Lowry said:

whitetrash said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
The Squad doesn't constitute a wave, nor do Greene and Boebert on their own. The point is that Greene and Boebert are likely to be joined by a raft of others, some already known and some less so, who could give their faction real influence in the legislature. Could the same thing happen on the Democratic side? Sure, but that would be a different argument requiring its own evidence.


Nice try, but you basically got Private Pyle'd on this thread.
I got whatabouted, as usual, except this time you can't even point to something Democrats are actually doing. You just made something up and said it was "probably" more accurate...LOL.
Your ignorance of English grammar notwithstanding, I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you.

Let me repeat a simple exercise I suggested to ground you emotional Karens in actual data / facts / information: compare the Democrat and Republican party platforms in 2000 and 2022 and quantify which one has changed the most. That will tell you which party is the most extreme.

Additionally, research which party has implemented the most extreme policies while they were in power.

If you're capable of executing those two exercises, come back and we'll give you more information in addition to explaining the concept of collective nouns. Otherwise, go back to your killing babies rallies and let the sentient people talk.
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Doc Holliday said:


The Big Guy did not get 10% from Ukraine for nothing.
Sam Lowry
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

whitetrash said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Wackadoodle Wave
If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may bring something even more extreme.
By David A. Graham



[Marjorie Taylor] Greene may have plenty of other company come January 2023. Driven by Trump and particularly by the prevalence of false claims about fraud in the 2020 election, the Republican Party is nominating more extreme candidates than ever for positions up and down the ballot. Because the electoral environment favors GOP candidates, a crop of people...is likely to be swept into office this year, with unpredictable and unsettling results. If 1994 brought the Republican Revolution and 2010 delivered the Tea Party to D.C., the 2022 election may go down as the Wackadoodle Wave.

Some of the wildest candidates...probably won't be known on the national stage until later. Most attention so far has focused on contested primary races in competitive districts, but solidly Republican constituencies may produce much more extreme candidates who never have much opposition.

When these candidates reach office, whether in Washington, state capitals, or local government, it won't necessarily represent an endorsement of their views by voters. A handful of dynamics are converging to produce results that can be out of line with the American public. The two major parties have sorted themselves into ideologically homogeneous groups, rather than the mixtures they once were. Polarization, especially negative polarization, means people are motivated as much by loathing of the other party as by any affirmative values. And the collapse of local news means candidates for lower-level offices don't receive close scrutiny.

But whether voters knew what they were getting into won't matter much by then. They'll be represented by officials who believe the Big Lie and other dubious ideas, and have the power to act on their beliefs. At the moment, Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Madison Cawthorn have the power mostly to marshal attention. With a larger group of confederates, they could exert serious sway over the House caucus. At other levels of government, some members of this wave could, for example, have responsibility for overseeing elections.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the GOP presidential primary by running against the party establishment. Now his endorsement has become the most powerful force in many races, because despite his unpopularity overall at the national level, GOP-primary voters revere him. The former president has used that influence to endorse a slew of extreme candidates who are MAGA true believers and to punish candidates who deviate from his line.

Of the extreme candidates running in 2022, some of them will surely end up defeating themselves by turning off moderate voters in general elections. But the sheer number of candidates running today who would never have made it through a primary in the past, combined with the wave of Republican victories up and down the ballot, means that a huge number of them will be elected to office.

As they do, they'll be closer to dominating the Republican Party. This year will see a host of departures by moderates as well as leaders who would have been viewed as staunch conservatives in 1994 or even 2010, but who MAGA types now regard as squishes or RINOs for their failure to offer complete fealty to Trump.

These Republicans stood for ideas such as low taxes, less regulation, and gun rights, and they often opposed even moderate reforms. Some were regarded in their day as bomb-throwers. But the GOP doesn't belong to them anymore. Come November, the wackadoodles shall inherit the Republican Party.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/republican-congressional-candidates-2022-midterm-elections/629733/
Kind of difficult to point to Greene, Boerbert and Cawthorn (who lost the primary, FYI) - three fringe figures in the party - and claim some type of Republican takeover by extremists. Those three were marginalized within the party. But I of course understand The Atlantic's motivations. Midterms are coming so they need to get out the Democrat vote. A little scare tactic might be useful.

Could one point to The Squad and say the same thing about Democrats? Of course, The Atlantic conveniently omits that from its oped.
The Squad doesn't constitute a wave, nor do Greene and Boebert on their own. The point is that Greene and Boebert are likely to be joined by a raft of others, some already known and some less so, who could give their faction real influence in the legislature. Could the same thing happen on the Democratic side? Sure, but that would be a different argument requiring its own evidence.


Nice try, but you basically got Private Pyle'd on this thread.
I got whatabouted, as usual, except this time you can't even point to something Democrats are actually doing. You just made something up and said it was "probably" more accurate...LOL.
If you're capable of executing those two exercises, come back and we'll give you more information in addition to explaining the concept of collective nouns.
LOL
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Married A Horn said:

Stopped reading at 'false claims about the 2020 election.'

The fraud was rampant. Will only vote for candidates that hear our concerns on securing elections. It is the ONLY issue until it is solved.

There was no fraud that changed the outcome. Real Americans voted. You are destroying America with your lies.
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Porteroso said:

Married A Horn said:

Stopped reading at 'false claims about the 2020 election.'

The fraud was rampant. Will only vote for candidates that hear our concerns on securing elections. It is the ONLY issue until it is solved.

There was no fraud that changed the outcome. Real Americans voted. You are destroying America with your lies.


That's what they call useless eater
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