Figured you would eventually turn this into a semantics debate - a tried and true Sam Lowry tactic..Sam Lowry said:There was plenty of data. It just didn't say what Mothra thinks it did.4th and Inches said:we didnt get vax until a year post pandemic bloom.. sounds like months of data to meSam Lowry said:Incorrect.Mothra said:By the time the vaxx came out, we absolutely did know that. We had months of statistics that told us that very thing.Ghostrider said:Well now I know that but didn't then. I got COVID early on and it really sucked for me. I trusted my doctor who recommended me to get the shot.Mothra said:Ghostrider said:when over a million people in the US alone have died from Covid , it is easy to see why one would get a vaccine recommended bc by doctors as well.Fre3dombear said:
Amazing how many people willingly said "I'll test it"
If you're in the high risk category, yes . If you're not, it doesn't make much sense to want to be a Guinea pig.
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"Details regarding the cause of death have not yet been released". We read this statement or something similar way too often these days. It has almost become expected in the death of a young person in 2023.Harrison Bergeron said:
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Still no interview with Damar?
Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Why didn't we hear about lots of these cardiac events in 2020 and 1H21 ... you know if it was Kung Flu like the "experts" insist?
Again you post one of your flawed "mask studies" ... it's basically "experts" claiming its Kung Flu and a speculative study of only VA patients that for unknown reasons picked 2017 as a comparable year - guessing a abnormality to spike results.
It was a known issue. I mentioned it once or twice, but it didn't fit the right-wing narrative. Obviously the anti-vax media sources had no reason to play it up.Harrison Bergeron said:Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Why didn't we hear about lots of these cardiac events in 2020 and 1H21 ... you know if it was Kung Flu like the "experts" insist?
Again you post one of your flawed "mask studies" ... it's basically "experts" claiming its Kung Flu and a speculative study of only VA patients that for unknown reasons picked 2017 as a comparable year - guessing a abnormality to spike results.
If you're not familiar with the study, you should take a few minutes to look at it. The reasons for choosing 2017 will be apparent, as will the fact that it wasn't the only year chosen for comparison.
Why aren't older people dying of the vax?
They're dying from the lack of protection provided by the vax.Ghostrider said:
Why aren't older people dying of the vax?
so a known issue yet still a surge 2 years after covid bloom- its all in AU so no worrys mate!Sam Lowry said:It was a known issue. I mentioned it once or twice, but it didn't fit the right-wing narrative. Obviously the anti-vax media sources had no reason to play it up.Harrison Bergeron said:Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Why didn't we hear about lots of these cardiac events in 2020 and 1H21 ... you know if it was Kung Flu like the "experts" insist?
Again you post one of your flawed "mask studies" ... it's basically "experts" claiming its Kung Flu and a speculative study of only VA patients that for unknown reasons picked 2017 as a comparable year - guessing a abnormality to spike results.
If you're not familiar with the study, you should take a few minutes to look at it. The reasons for choosing 2017 will be apparent, as will the fact that it wasn't the only year chosen for comparison.
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Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
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The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
no, but many kids were getting sick and we still don't know the long term side effects. We know organ scarring is an issue. This could also be why younger people are dying years after getting Covid.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
No one has said or suggested kids weren't getting sick. But again, we knew when the vax was approved for kids throughout 2021 that otherwise healthy kids weren't dying of COVID, and there was little evidence of any long term side effects or complications from same.Ghostrider said:no, but many kids were getting sick and we still don't know the long term side effects. We know organ scarring is an issue. This could also be why younger people are dying years after getting Covid.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
If we are going to say we didn't have proof of things, we also don't have any proof at all that COVID or organ scarring is causing deaths in younger people. That is pure speculation.
No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Incorrect.Mothra said:But again, we knew when the vax was approved for kids throughout 2021 that otherwise healthy kids weren't dying of COVID, and there was little evidence of any long term side effects or complications from same.Ghostrider said:no, but many kids were getting sick and we still don't know the long term side effects. We know organ scarring is an issue. This could also be why younger people are dying years after getting Covid.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
If we are going to say we didn't have proof of things, we also don't have any proof at all that COVID or organ scarring is causing deaths in younger people. That is pure speculation.
As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Liar.Sam Lowry said:Incorrect.Mothra said:But again, we knew when the vax was approved for kids throughout 2021 that otherwise healthy kids weren't dying of COVID, and there was little evidence of any long term side effects or complications from same.Ghostrider said:no, but many kids were getting sick and we still don't know the long term side effects. We know organ scarring is an issue. This could also be why younger people are dying years after getting Covid.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
If we are going to say we didn't have proof of things, we also don't have any proof at all that COVID or organ scarring is causing deaths in younger people. That is pure speculation.
He sure is freaking out if he just was lying to make up stuff on a date.Jack Bauer said:
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We have known since day three that Covid-19 was less deadly than the flu for people under 18.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
Debunked.Harrison Bergeron said:We have known since day three that Covid-19 was less deadly than the flu for people under 18.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-06-03/coronavirus-daily-covid-is-more-lethal-to-kids-than-the-flu
on day 3? NoHarrison Bergeron said:We have known since day three that Covid-19 was less deadly than the flu for people under 18.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
that's another risk. You don't always know of you have a co-morbidity.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
The vast majority of the time you do - e.g. kids with asthma, diabetes, obesity.Ghostrider said:that's another risk. You don't always know of you have a co-morbidity.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
yes usually you do. Unfortunately many people are obese.Mothra said:The vast majority of the time you do - e.g. kids with asthma, diabetes, obesity.Ghostrider said:that's another risk. You don't always know of you have a co-morbidity.Mothra said:As I said previously, by the time shot was approved for teens, there was ample data that children were simply not in danger of dying from Covid unless they had some co-morbidity. Glad to hear you've finally conceded this position.Sam Lowry said:No one said that kids were dying "by and large." I said they were experiencing a higher risk of heart damage from the virus than from the vaccine.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:Again, the risks depend on the age and the variant, among other things.Mothra said:So you're saying the current iteration doesn't cause the same issues? Still stand by the fiction that we didn't know kids by and large weren't dying of COVID when the vaccine was approved for their use?Sam Lowry said:The data is pre-Omicron. At that time, sure.Mothra said:Pretty alarming. Sounds like it's time to go get the kids vaxxed, don't you think?Sam Lowry said:Most here won't like the answer.4th and Inches said:
Austrailia reporting a recent 22% surge in sudden cardiac events..
Something changed, the effects are evident but causation is not as clear
https://www.smh.com.au/national/fatal-heart-attacks-have-surged-in-australia-here-s-why-20230117-p5cd22.html
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Your first link has no data, and the second only pertains to kids already in ICUs.Mothra said:
Whoops!
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn
https://www.michiganmedicine.org/health-lab/comparing-life-threatening-flu-and-covid-19-illness-kids
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greg-patrick-former-usfl-arizona-wildcats-assistant-coach-dead-53?yptr=yahoo
Dead at 53. "His cause of death was not immediately known."
Dead at 53. "His cause of death was not immediately known."
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"His cause of death was not immediately known."RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greg-patrick-former-usfl-arizona-wildcats-assistant-coach-dead-53?yptr=yahoo
Dead at 53. "His cause of death was not immediately known."
Why did you post?
he was hoping you knew.. you and Sam know everythingOsodecentx said:"His cause of death was not immediately known."RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greg-patrick-former-usfl-arizona-wildcats-assistant-coach-dead-53?yptr=yahoo
Dead at 53. "His cause of death was not immediately known."
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