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In reply to Mothra • 6:01p, 8/14/24
Mothra said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
4th and Inches said:


CNN would fact check everything Trump says as false

I bet if Trump said it was raining, they would fact check it as false and call it drizzle or mist instead.

So he doesnt know the difference between impressions and watching live.. most dont know the difference
Yes everyone knows CNN has a slant but he makes it so easy for them. I personally am happy with any network that exposes his lies and ridiculous campaign to lose the election. When Trump makes a claim and CNN broadcasts the real truth why is that so hard to accept. The man constantly lies.


The problem is, CNN doesn't broadcast the real truth. Typically it's a partial truth, or someone's opinion regarding Trump's opinion. If we could trust CNN, to be an honest broker of the truth, that would be one thing. But they've peddled such bull**** over the years that it's hard to trust anybody. All of the other major news networks in this country are the same.

It's why I resorted to getting my news from British sources. I found the BBC to be one of the most reliable sources of news and information.


I read the BBC website daily.

They are definitely left leaning , though not as much as CNN or MSNBC.

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In reply to KaiBear • 6:06p, 8/14/24
KaiBear said:
Mothra said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
4th and Inches said:


CNN would fact check everything Trump says as false

I bet if Trump said it was raining, they would fact check it as false and call it drizzle or mist instead.

So he doesnt know the difference between impressions and watching live.. most dont know the difference
Yes everyone knows CNN has a slant but he makes it so easy for them. I personally am happy with any network that exposes his lies and ridiculous campaign to lose the election. When Trump makes a claim and CNN broadcasts the real truth why is that so hard to accept. The man constantly lies.


The problem is, CNN doesn't broadcast the real truth. Typically it's a partial truth, or someone's opinion regarding Trump's opinion. If we could trust CNN, to be an honest broker of the truth, that would be one thing. But they've peddled such bull**** over the years that it's hard to trust anybody. All of the other major news networks in this country are the same.

It's why I resorted to getting my news from British sources. I found the BBC to be one of the most reliable sources of news and information.


I read the BBC website daily.

They are definitely left leaning , though not as much as CNN or MSNBC.
At least MSNBC knows it is a cartoon. I think CNN still thinks it does news.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 7:58p, 8/14/24
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Oldbear83 said:
I will happy to explain the numbers to anyone interested, but for now it's important to understand that since 1944 only one incumbent party candidate has won re-election with more than 1.8% minor-party share (Clinton in 1996).

The minor-vote share has been tracking between 5 and 9 percent ever since Harris claimed the nomination, and right now it's at 5.5%. That's bad news for Harris, but most people don't understand the numbers at work here.

explain this one.. make it make sense


One factor: RFKJR. His support is waning. When that happens, it's mostly anti-Biden Dems going home. So it does explain a 3-5 pt increase in Harris support versus where Biden was. But no way does it turn the electorate into 40% Democrat.

Polls are being cooked to dispirit GOP. From the commentary here, it's clearly working.
i think it is being done to rattle Trump and it IS working

Nah. He's got his own numbers. He knows where the race really is.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:00p, 8/14/24
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Look at these internals on that Fox poll

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8:04p, 8/14/24
Supposedly he did this with Trump also a few weeks ago

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Exactly

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The games being played…..
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:55p, 8/14/24
boognish_bear said:
Supposedly he did this with Trump also a few weeks ago

I wonder if RFK Jr. would be a good choice by Trump for Attorney General.
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In reply to Whiskey Pete • 9:19p, 8/14/24
The last AG named Robert Kennedy served under his brother. On a side note, they both had affairs with Marilyn Monroe.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:28p, 8/14/24
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boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
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In reply to sombear • 10:00p, 8/14/24
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whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.


Why do you think those numbers would be different?

(English vs non-English speaking)
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In reply to sombear • 10:02p, 8/14/24
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whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
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In reply to whiterock • 2:40a, 8/15/24
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No fret, as the election gets closer, coup d'etat Kamala will most likely be polling higher than any other democrat in history. She'll be the first candidate to get 1 billion votes.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 8:25a, 8/15/24
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.
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8:44a, 8/15/24
MAGA's are losing this election again. Trump eeked out in 2016 and it has been downhill ever since. Haley or Christie would wipe out Kamala.
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 9:29a, 8/15/24
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MAGA's are losing this election again. Trump eeked out in 2016 and it has been downhill ever since. Haley or Christie would wipe out Kamala.
Maybe...maybe not


At the end of the day there was a voter primary and both failed to get enough votes to win

Trump did

Amazing how many people refuse to get on board with the Party choice.....
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In reply to sombear • 10:08a, 8/15/24
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.
Non-speaking English Hispanics are much more in favor of open border. It is not surprising.
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In reply to sombear • 10:19a, 8/15/24
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.
Who types Ha? or actually refuses to see the data?

55% of Spanish LOTE at Home are USA born and English fluent.
Source? USA Census.


More…..

79.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are Non-Limited English [functional English]
Only 20.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are English Partial

The correlation between (1) citizenship and voting rights and (2) fluency/functionality is massive.
Which takes us back to the "non English speaking registered voter numbers are tiny".

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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 10:28a, 8/15/24
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.
Who types Ha? or actually refuses to see the data?

55% of Spanish LOTE at Home are USA born and English fluent.
Source? USA Census.


More…..

79.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are Non-Limited English [functional English]
Only 20.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are English Partial

The correlation between (1) citizenship and voting rights and (2) fluency/functionality is massive.
Which takes us back to the "non English speaking registered voter numbers are tiny".

So you disagree with the vast majority of pollsters and political consultants. That's fine, and I respect your opinion. How about a friendly wager on the ultimate Hispanic vote?

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In reply to Doc Holliday • 10:33a, 8/15/24
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Adopt-a-Bear 2024

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CLASS Junior
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#50 KAIAN ROBERTS-DAY ( DL )
CLASS Sophomore
HT/WT 6' 3", 273 lbs
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In reply to sombear • 10:37a, 8/15/24
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.

How many illegal aliens from places like Honduras & Venezuela are part of that calculation?
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 10:38a, 8/15/24
Redbrickbear said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
MAGA's are losing this election again. Trump eeked out in 2016 and it has been downhill ever since. Haley or Christie would wipe out Kamala.
Maybe...maybe not


At the end of the day there was a voter primary and both failed to get enough votes to win

Trump did

Amazing how many people refuse to get on board with the Party choice.....

You'd think maybe they were Dems!
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:38a, 8/15/24
Again, how many of those are illegals?
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In reply to sombear • 10:41a, 8/15/24
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:


Look at these internals on that Fox poll



The Hispanic numbers are far off. Fox interviewed English speakers only.
Because a massive number of non-English speaking Hispanic registered voters exists?

Care to try a different nonsense story?
Ha, talk to any pollster or campaign consultant. The more "spanish-centered the voter" the more likely they vote Dem, and vice versa. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

I like to pick apart tabs as much as anyone, and usually it's a Dem poll I'm picking apart. Just calling them as I see them. Bottom line, if you are polling Hispanics exclusively in English, you are not getting a representative sample. Combine that with a smaller than typical sample and you have a severely flawed tab.

Trump is down significantly among Hispanics at this time.
Who types Ha? or actually refuses to see the data?

55% of Spanish LOTE at Home are USA born and English fluent.
Source? USA Census.


More…..

79.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are Non-Limited English [functional English]
Only 20.5 of Spanish LOTE at Home are English Partial

The correlation between (1) citizenship and voting rights and (2) fluency/functionality is massive.
Which takes us back to the "non English speaking registered voter numbers are tiny".

So you disagree with the vast majority of pollsters and political consultants. That's fine, and I respect your opinion. How about a friendly wager on the ultimate Hispanic vote?

Which would be determined [since we have private voting] solely by post-voting polling by the exact same people?

LOL will pass on that nonsense.

FYI……look at how the better polling groups treat their True Ups. More importantly, how Language isn't among the criteria.
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