“Officials with the top pro-Harris super PAC said their polling ‘is much less rosy’ than public surveys.” https://t.co/c2DVrXDOX6
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) August 25, 2024
“Officials with the top pro-Harris super PAC said their polling ‘is much less rosy’ than public surveys.” https://t.co/c2DVrXDOX6
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) August 25, 2024
Trump would veto legislation establishing a federal abortion ban, Vance says https://t.co/nVe08KW7Mq
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 25, 2024
Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 25, 2024
If you ever peruse left-wing sites, they think Fox News is always wrong, 100% of the time, and that CNN is "right wing." People are nuts.Redbrickbear said:— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 25, 2024
boognish_bear said:I'm telling you man... something strange is happening. You got a guy on CNN making some sense, and now Stewart? pic.twitter.com/QYwhq6aRcq
— John C. Barry (@ShrinkGov) August 23, 2024
Okay. That IS shocking.historian said:boognish_bear said:I'm telling you man... something strange is happening. You got a guy on CNN making some sense, and now Stewart? pic.twitter.com/QYwhq6aRcq
— John C. Barry (@ShrinkGov) August 23, 2024
Jon Stewart is funny sometimes. Unfortunately, this is funny because it is based on truths and some sad truths.
ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
Some will wait until the election is done to let it be known if they are available.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
Oldbear83 said:Some will wait until the election is done to let it be known if they are available.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:Some will wait until the election is done to let it be known if they are available.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I agree with McMasters Trump does not need yes men. He needs adults to keep him on track.
Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
No, that is why I posted it, for example Bolton's is ridiculous and personal, McMasters is a pro. He gave a balanced assessment.Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
You didn't find the need and desire to be stroked, susceptible to flattery and trust of dictator part as significant? That he thought he could be friends with Putin? The "he made good decisions" but would not follow through? I found those parts very troubling. I also found positives, which is why I liked the review it is balanced. Nothing is EVER all one way or the other.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
hes not wrong..boognish_bear said:
i think you are gonna get people like Gabbard and RFK this time. He knows this is the last chance just like RFK knows it is the last chance for him to change things for better health of the nation.FLBear5630 said:No, that is why I posted it, for example Bolton's is ridiculous and personal, McMasters is a pro. He gave a balanced assessment.Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
The piece I fear is that Trump will not challenge himself this time with people like McMasters in his Cabinet. It will be "Yes, people". IMO, of all Presidents, Trump does not need "Yes, people". He needs the truth. Someone like GHW Bush I can see needing "Yes, people" to move him off the data into action and reenforce confidence in decision making.
Trump needs people to keep him on point. I think Trump is good at reading and using data and makes good decisions, he is just too impatient and impulsive. He needs McMasters types. Someone like Halley worked well together, whether they liked it or not! I think Gabbard and even RFK would be great for Trump and challenge him. WE DO NOT NEED THE BANNON AND FLYNN'S!
W, Hillary, and Obama thought they could be friends with Putin also.FLBear5630 said:You didn't find the need and desire to be stroked, susceptible to flattery and trust of dictator part as significant? That he thought he could be friends with Putin? The "he made good decisions" but would not follow through? I found those parts very troubling. I also found positives, which is why I liked the review it is balanced. Nothing is EVER all one way or the other.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I guess we see what we want to see.
It's the 3rd anniversary of 13 American service members dying during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 26, 2024
Biden is currently at the beach.
Kamala has nothing on her schedule.
President Trump is at Arlington Cemetery laying a wreath for all 13 of them.pic.twitter.com/811DRgsHWm
Pretty much. It certainly wasn't the "blistering account" that CNN described in its headline.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
Jack Bauer said:It's the 3rd anniversary of 13 American service members dying during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 26, 2024
Biden is currently at the beach.
Kamala has nothing on her schedule.
President Trump is at Arlington Cemetery laying a wreath for all 13 of them.pic.twitter.com/811DRgsHWm
We have not had a real election, with real candidates in decades. These are still **** choices.sombear said:W, Hillary, and Obama thought they could be friends with Putin also.FLBear5630 said:You didn't find the need and desire to be stroked, susceptible to flattery and trust of dictator part as significant? That he thought he could be friends with Putin? The "he made good decisions" but would not follow through? I found those parts very troubling. I also found positives, which is why I liked the review it is balanced. Nothing is EVER all one way or the other.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I guess we see what we want to see.
And, my gosh, if we didn't already know Trump need to be worshipped . . . .
I regret to inform you that the liberal female governors are making tiktoks again pic.twitter.com/XYda0DOeez
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) August 26, 2024
Bret Weinstein says he’s now open to voting for President Trump following the endorsement of RFK Jr.:
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 26, 2024
“The modern Democrat Party is an existential threat to the Republic. I’ve been a Democrat my whole life. The party I see now is the inverse of the party I signed up for. This is… pic.twitter.com/37p2lzsFvF
The Harris and Trump camps are at an impasse over rules ahead of the Sept 10 ABC debate.
— Zack Stanton (@zackstanton) August 26, 2024
The holdup? Whether the candidates’ microphones will be muted when it isn’t their turn to speak.
Team Trump wants them muted.
Team Harris wants the mics hot.https://t.co/FDrCdAnvzO
Terrible messaging.boognish_bear said:Trump would veto legislation establishing a federal abortion ban, Vance says https://t.co/nVe08KW7Mq
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 25, 2024
FLBear5630 said:We have not had a real election, with real candidates in decades. These are still **** choices.sombear said:W, Hillary, and Obama thought they could be friends with Putin also.FLBear5630 said:You didn't find the need and desire to be stroked, susceptible to flattery and trust of dictator part as significant? That he thought he could be friends with Putin? The "he made good decisions" but would not follow through? I found those parts very troubling. I also found positives, which is why I liked the review it is balanced. Nothing is EVER all one way or the other.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I guess we see what we want to see.
And, my gosh, if we didn't already know Trump need to be worshipped . . . .
It's McMaster. No "s" on the end.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:Some will wait until the election is done to let it be known if they are available.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I agree with McMasters Trump does not need yes men. He needs adults to keep him on track.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:FLBear5630 said:We have not had a real election, with real candidates in decades. These are still **** choices.sombear said:W, Hillary, and Obama thought they could be friends with Putin also.FLBear5630 said:You didn't find the need and desire to be stroked, susceptible to flattery and trust of dictator part as significant? That he thought he could be friends with Putin? The "he made good decisions" but would not follow through? I found those parts very troubling. I also found positives, which is why I liked the review it is balanced. Nothing is EVER all one way or the other.sombear said:I agree with you. It was mostly, "he made the right decisions but said a lot of stupid things and asked stupid questions."Mothra said:Honestly, if that's the worst of it, it's not that bad. I actually expected something much worse.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I guess we see what we want to see.
And, my gosh, if we didn't already know Trump need to be worshipped . . . .
The real problem is that the establishment owns our elections. The candidates are chosen by the very swamp that we want to get rid of. No way to do otherwise unless there is a real outsider candidate that has both fame, charisma, and a bankroll.
North Texas officials say no proof of illegal voter registration alleged by Fox News host, a claim that Ken Paxton appears to be investigating
— WFAA (@wfaa) August 26, 2024
https://t.co/BkqeXKoFlP
2024 National GE:
— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) August 26, 2024
Trump 49% (+1)
Harris 48%
.@EchelonInsights, 1,031 LV, 8/23-25https://t.co/g0AS6OkDnf
Malbec said:It's McMaster. No "s" on the end.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:Some will wait until the election is done to let it be known if they are available.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:Yes, the internal polling has them greatly concerned. I know Georgia went from heavy lean to contested.sombear said:This is correct.whiterock said:
Takes at least 3 days of data to get a good poll to measure a specific event, like a convention, or a shooting of a candidate, or a major endorsement.
So the flaw one could easily theorize to find in his conclusion above would be that the polls he's aggregating contain several days of convention bounce, but only ONE day of RFKJR endorsement bounce. That's on top of the fact that very few pollsters have done more than one poll in the last couple of weeks.
If you want to know how the convention vs RFKjr endorsement played out, wait for polls published on Wednesday. That gives Sat/Sun/Mon to collect data, Tues to analyze and review, Wed to publish.
One word of caution for Trump voters though. There is a reason Trump's pollsters distributed press releases to every media outlet in the country yesterday saying to expect a solid Harris lead for a while. Their mid-convention and post-Harris speech polling was abysmal. Of course, this was expected to a certain extent, but they were a bit taken aback.
This is a **** election. When I read stuff like the attached article from guys like Gen McMasters it really puts me in a quandary. McMasters is an honorable, competent man. His account is balanced, unlike Bolton, which adds to credibility. No good choices. I can only hope McMasters or someone like him agrees to serve again. We need competent men at the NSA and Pentagon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics/mcmaster-trump-book-account/index.html
I agree with McMasters Trump does not need yes men. He needs adults to keep him on track.