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New Bloomberg poll has Harris up 5 in Pennsylvania.

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Morning Consult has been a pro-Dem outlier this entire cycle. I don't think it's intentional b/c no pollster wants to be consistently wrong. The frauds mix in some opposite polls. But, regardless of motive, take MC with a grain of salt.

The GOP thinks Trump is down by a hair in PA but well within striking distance.

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Many of these polling firms are players as much as pollsters

Oh my God. Harris is down in the Marist Poll, which has overstated DEM support in darn near every swing state over the last two presidential cycles.

It may be every state, in fact. https://t.co/IZk16LBiST

— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) September 26, 2024

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And everyone one of you run away from my question. Everyone.
Yet you are going to vote for this guy. A man who was an active participant in January 6th. Who sat on his butt and watched the violence and destruction of property, refusing pleas from his family and "Republicans" to stop it.
Interesting that no one wants to think about what if his plan to overthrow the election had been successful.
Was it an insurrection? An attempted coup?
Look it up in the dictionary.
Yeppers you are going to rationalize the facts away and vote for this guy. No matter what he has done. Well I guess that says a lot about you and where we are as a nation.
Would we be having this discussion if had been successful? Would we be having an election? Come on man, you guys are intelligent. Answer the question.

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Strange self abortion you are displaying here; you must be very young.

I simply disagree with your narrative and your conclusion.

Meanwhile you arbitrarily dismiss the flagrantly misuse of the FBI in raiding the house of a past president and political enemy. Only to find out Biden had similar documents and less justification for possessing them.

But fear not.

Propaganda works.

Harris and her policies will take hold.

And the consequences of which will effect your future quality of life far more than it will effect mine.


Peace Be With You.

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The Mar-a-Lago raid and the classified documents "found"there was all staged. Just like everything with the Left (charges against Trump, justifications for impeachment of Trump, marriage, men, women, presidential primary process, etc), it was all fake.

🚨 New Nate Silver Model - win probability

🔵 Harris 58%
🔴 Trump 42% pic.twitter.com/iN7dFuBAQw

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 27, 2024

For everyone who thinks the Trump trial were legit, Megyn Kelly will set you straight:

https://notthebee.com/article/watch-megyn-kelly-destroy-this-lib-loser-and-explain-the-lawfare-being-perpetrated-against-the-donald

TRUMP'S UP-'SWING': Voters have flipped their choice in Arizona since last month as Vice President Harris now trails former President Trump by three percentage points after losing ground among women, Hispanics and young voters. The latest poll: https://t.co/ZqgjkZbsia pic.twitter.com/HBwX21t5s2

— Fox News (@FoxNews) September 27, 2024

IMO, that sir, was a response anyone should respect. It is unfortunate that too many people won't respect such a response. I can't vote for him and won't. He gave us a clear window into who he was and how he performs under pressure, nor counting his other issues. He turned his back on us and the country, and still callously strives to divide us, thus resulting in a weaker nation.
I join you in your hope that he changes and will be the lesser of the two evils, as neither are worthy to be president; however, that is our fault. Again, thank you.

Keep drinking the kool-aid.
And you still run away from responding to the question. For you to do that is surprising. If Trump had been successful in his plan of January 6th what would have been the outcome for your country? (And his plan was no secret)

Have you considered (after posting hundreds of times on the same two political threads) that you might need professional help for obsessive compulsive behavior?

Normal people are not that narrowly focused (or use that amount of time arguing on a topic with complete strangers).

Really…..for your mental health it might be time to take a break and go to the park or similar.

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But what if he had been successful January 6th?
Think about what would have had to happen for his effort to be successful and he remained our "illegitimate president"?

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Would we have a 2024 election?

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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No.

If Trump loses it will be bcs he doubled down on Israel.

If he had simply said I don't agree with what is going on over there and I won't send any more money if I am re-elected, Trump would win this election by 5-10 pts

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LOL

There aren't as many Jew haters as you think. You are one of the few members of the KKK left in America. But thanks for taking some time away from your weekly temple burnings to post online.

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Its funny how the most violent people on this board project their violent psychopathy onto me.

I've seen you write posts talking about getting off on all the people Israel has killed.

You are a sick freak.

Yep she is the one you can rely on for the "truth" you want to hear and believe. Which is more truthful, her, FOX, Tucker, Newsmax, Breitbart? Come on man. Did you check out the source? Listen closely and do some quick research. But hey, it's not going to change your mind. Perhaps that is why you won't give a real response to my earlier question about January 6th. Regardless of what would have happened if his plan had succeeded, you would still vote for him. (But would you need to?) You are a thinker, so think.

Ahhh….shhhh!

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ShooterTX said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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No.

If Trump loses it will be bcs he doubled down on Israel.

If he had simply said I don't agree with what is going on over there and I won't send any more money if I am re-elected, Trump would win this election by 5-10 pts

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LOL

There aren't as many Jew haters as you think. You are one of the few members of the KKK left in America. But thanks for taking some time away from your weekly temple burnings to post online.

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Its funny how the most violent people on this board project their violent psychopathy onto me.

I've seen you write posts talking about getting off on all the people Israel has killed.

You are a sick freak.

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Go ahead and post a link to those comments of mine. I'd like to read them... since they do not exist.

Thanks doc! However, didn't you just violate doctor-client privilege? Look, just don't respond to my question for obvious reasons. I want to see if anyone is brave enough to give an honest explanation. Tell you what, if you keep quiet, you can help me critique any responses I get, and then you can even tell them what his plan was. Deal?

If this thread was the Hundred Acre Wood, BUDOS would definitely be Piglet.

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Thanks doc! However, didn't you just violate doctor-client privilege? Look, just don't respond to my question for obvious reasons. I want to see if anyone is brave enough to give an honest explanation. Tell you what, if you keep quiet, you can help me critique any responses I get, and then you can even tell them what his plan was. Deal?

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The only question that you need focus upon is:

"Is it normal and healthy behavior for any person to spend countless hours arguing with strangers online for months over the same topic?"

You seem to enjoy the continued political confrontation and turmoil. That likelihood should worry anyone.

Disagreements occur. It is normal. Living for the disagreement isn't normal.

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🚨 New Nate Silver Model - win probability

🔵 Harris 58%
🔴 Trump 42% pic.twitter.com/iN7dFuBAQw

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 27, 2024

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This more than anything else out there is the most concerning for Trump.

Silver had Trump at 60% just a couple weeks ago. With his modeling, this is a dramatic shift.

sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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🚨 New Nate Silver Model - win probability

🔵 Harris 58%
🔴 Trump 42% pic.twitter.com/iN7dFuBAQw

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 27, 2024

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This more than anything else out there is the most concerning for Trump.

Silver had Trump at 60% just a couple weeks ago. With his modeling, this is a dramatic shift.

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Harris is going to win this thing. Trump thinks his base is enough, suburban women will put her over the top. Vance does not help. All the women at work comment on how creepy he is. That is what you want the electorate to say...

Amazed how many people are able to predict an outcome 6.5 weeks away in what is largely considered a coin flip race.

Clearly those predictions mean both Trump and Harris are incapable of doing anything in the interim to impact the outcome.

Or maybe people are sphincter whistling.

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For everyone who thinks the Trump trial were legit, Megyn Kelly will set you straight:

https://notthebee.com/article/watch-megyn-kelly-destroy-this-lib-loser-and-explain-the-lawfare-being-perpetrated-against-the-donald

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I didn't click but as of late she has totally gone off the nut job rails into the stratosphere

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Amazed how many people are able to predict an outcome 6.5 weeks away in what is largely considered a coin flip race.

Clearly those predictions mean both Trump and Harris are incapable of doing anything in the interim to impact the outcome.

Or maybe people are sphincter whistling.

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Of course its sphincter whistling, its a message board. You think anyone on here really knows?? May want to reset those expectations!

This group will predict a Russia/US Nuclear war, Harris win of the election, Trump getting screwed by cheating, predict Baylor will lose to BYU and tell you everything Aranda is doing wrong. All the while arguing the Constitution and what it really means because we really know.
All by lunch...

If your really lucky you can hear how we are rich, senior fitness models and how you can get to heaven if you listen to us when the moon or the meds are right.

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Amazed how many people are able to predict an outcome 6.5 weeks away in what is largely considered a coin flip race.

Clearly those predictions mean both Trump and Harris are incapable of doing anything in the interim to impact the outcome.

Or maybe people are sphincter whistling.

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Of course its sphincter whistling, its a message board. You think anyone on here really knows?? May want to reset those expectations!

This group will predict a Russia/US Nuclear war, Harris win of the election, Trump getting screwed by cheating, predict Baylor will lose to BYU and tell you everything Aranda is doing wrong. All the while arguing the Constitution and what it really means because we really know.
All by lunch...

If your really lucky you can hear how we are rich, senior fitness models and how you can get to heaven if you listen to us when the moon or the meds are right.

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In most settings adults understand the difference between offering opinions and stating opinions as fact.

On this board that important difference is routinely lost on a handful of folks.

Okay doc, just because I keep going to your sessions and listening to you doesn't mean we have to always agree; that would not be "normal or healthy."

But doc at least you have an answer to my question. My next question would be is it normal and healthy behavior for many of these dudes to vote for this guy when they apparently can't comprehend or imagine how things would be if Trump had been successful January 6th. Is it normal and healthy to run away from the apparent truth? So, who isn't healthy and normal? How about Trump?

You think I am looking for confrontation and, you are not quite right. As spending hours looking for confrontation, get real. These forums are mostly filled with Trumpers and pro -trump trolls. They are their own support group searching for affirmation and a safe space, usually ready to rip into anyone not like them.

Just don't let them in on his plan for January 6th. Keep them focused on refuting Project 2025.
But you got to admit it says a lot that they won't face up to my question.

You keep playing the same tune without getting the notes in the right order. You still haven't answered my questions. The answers to which completely invalidate your theory.

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Okay doc, just because I keep going to your sessions and listening to you doesn't mean we have to always agree; that would not be "normal or healthy."

But doc at least you have an answer to my question. My next question would be is it normal and healthy behavior for many of these dudes to vote for this guy when they apparently can't comprehend or imagine how things would be if Trump had been successful January 6th. Is it normal and healthy to run away from the apparent truth? So, who isn't healthy and normal? How about Trump?

You think I am looking for confrontation and, you are not quite right. As spending hours looking for confrontation, get real. These forums are mostly filled with Trumpers and pro -trump trolls. They are their own support group searching for affirmation and a safe space, usually ready to rip into anyone not like them.

Just don't let them in on his plan for January 6th. Keep them focused on refuting Project 2025.
But you got to admit it says a lot that they won't face up to my question.

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Do you fail to see that when you respond to a comment about your compulsive behavior with a response of "Trump/Jan. 6/Project 2025" you are effectively confirming the original comment beyond contestation?

It appears that once again you believe you are right, which is getting more repetitive than compulsive. It's becoming a bit tiring. Tell you what, you go ahead and answer my question, and don't try to answer it with a question again. And you haven't explained their abnormal behavior in failing to answer the question.
Don't say it is because they are abnormal. You keep repeating that each time, but I think you are wrong.

Isn't this a great country? We can be completely ignorant of anything political and still vote and it count as much as anyone else. We can even vote for a convicted criminal and have them be president of our great country. Just think how great we will be in a few more years with him in charge.
And you just may get at least part of the answer.

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It appears that once again you believe you are right, which is getting more repetitive than compulsive. It's becoming a bit tiring. Tell you what, you go ahead and answer my question, and don't try to answer it with a question again. And you haven't explained their abnormal behavior in failing to answer the question.
Don't say it is because they are abnormal. You keep repeating that each time, but I think you are wrong.

Isn't this a great country? We can be completely ignorant of anything political and still vote and it count as much as anyone else. We can even vote for a convicted criminal and have them be president of our great country. Just think how great we will be in a few more years with him in charge.
And you just may get at least part of the answer.

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Relax man. You're not going to change anyone's mind here about voting for Trump. Seriously dude, take a Valium before you give yourself a heart attack.

Besides, Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025, sounds like you've been drinking too much kool-aid.

Seriously, it might do you some good to put down the hatorade.

Kamala Harris posting videos of Mitch show why there can’t be a continuation of his rule. Senate can’t go to John Cornyn or someone like that. https://t.co/mWRYHKIjnp

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) September 27, 2024

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For everyone who thinks the Trump trial were legit, Megyn Kelly will set you straight:

https://notthebee.com/article/watch-megyn-kelly-destroy-this-lib-loser-and-explain-the-lawfare-being-perpetrated-against-the-donald

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I didn't click but as of late she has totally gone off the nut job rails into the stratosphere

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I would ask you for one example of something she has stated that is "nut job," but details, facts, and specifics continue to be Kryptonite for the loony left.

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It appears that once again you believe you are right, which is getting more repetitive than compulsive. It's becoming a bit tiring. Tell you what, you go ahead and answer my question, and don't try to answer it with a question again. And you haven't explained their abnormal behavior in failing to answer the question.
Don't say it is because they are abnormal. You keep repeating that each time, but I think you are wrong.

Isn't this a great country? We can be completely ignorant of anything political and still vote and it count as much as anyone else. We can even vote for a convicted criminal and have them be president of our great country. Just think how great we will be in a few more years with him in charge.
And you just may get at least part of the answer.

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Relax man. You're not going to change anyone's mind here about voting for Trump. Seriously dude, take a Valium before you give yourself a heart attack.

Besides, Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025, sounds like you've been drinking too much kool-aid.

Seriously, it might do you some good to put down the hatorade.

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It's the Iron Law of Woke Projection.

Everything the left accuses others of actually is what it is doing.

Hard to square this with polls showing Kamala ahead

If the 2024 election were between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump, who would you vote for?

Independents Only-
Trump: 48% (+9)
Harris: 39%
Someone Else: 8%
Not Sure: 4%https://t.co/3fQUfPhnD6 https://t.co/iLy2z8A8tK

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) September 27, 2024

I genuinely do not know how any sane person can vote for Harris. I genuinely think the only reason anyone will vote for her is because they have been misled by the media. There is not rational reason to vote for her unless one is just a purely tribal Democrat, which is much of the Democrats - there is a reason the phrase "yellow dog" Democrat is a true stereotype.

- Trump is a proven commodity: he had the most successful three-year presidency maybe ever; I am sure it can be debated, but hard to argue the success of his first three years
- Trump has a mixed record on Covid; like everything else, he tried to get in front of it but was immediately thwarted by Democrats; he brought the vaccine to market in record time, and most of the terrible Covid-era decisions were driven by governors not the federal government (although Fauci's terrible advice was behind much of it)
- Harris is literally the stupidest person ever to run for president; she is a abject moron
- Harris has failed at everything she has done including four years of one of the worse presidencies in modern memory, and she particularly failed at the tasks she was given
- Harris is the most radical, extreme president ever to run for office as a major party candidate

Unless one is a crazy partisan or just disinformed, no reasonable case to vote for Harris.

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Hard to square this with polls showing Kamala ahead

If the 2024 election were between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump, who would you vote for?

Independents Only-
Trump: 48% (+9)
Harris: 39%
Someone Else: 8%
Not Sure: 4%https://t.co/3fQUfPhnD6 https://t.co/iLy2z8A8tK

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) September 27, 2024

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If that were the question that they actually asked in the poll survey, why would one of the choices for an answer be, "Someone else?"

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So, If Trump's efforts that January 6th had been successful, would you have been unsettled?

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what efforts are you talking about? Alot of J6 things happened..