Mothra said:
sombear said:
ShooterTX said:
boognish_bear said:
What a load of bull*****
This guy is just as much a "conservative" as the Cheneys. They are just a bunch of corrupt, war mongers. These are not actual conservatives who care about the future of our nation.
Kasich is very much a conservative and has an actual record to prove it.
If we base the analysis on traditional conservative positions, it is Trump and Vance who are RINOs:
- Major tax increases (Vance)
- Tariffs (both)
- Increasing deficits (both)
- Trade restrictions (both)
- Siding with big labor (both)
- Price controls (both)
- Softening on abortion (both)
- Praise of Putin/Harsh criticism of Zelensky (both)
- COVID lockdowns (Trump)
- Opposing any and all entitlement reform (both)
- Falsely clinging to rigged election and refusing to admit defeat (both)
We talking about the same Kasich who as governor vetoed a bill outlawing abortion after 6 week, has signed executive orders supporting same sex marriage and gender identity, supports a federal assault weapons ban, has supported bills attempting to curb climate change including raising taxes on frackers, has supported bills reducing prison sentences and guidelines for convicted felons, has supported legislation calling for greater "accountability" among police officers, has said he'd strongly consider a national legalization of recreational marijuana, and expressed neocon views on foreign wars?
Man can't agree that Kasich is very much a conservative. I will agree he is a moderate conservative but his positions have very much evolved since his days in Congress. What I just described are not traditional conservative positions.
That said, you'll get no argument from me that Trump and Vance are traditional conservatives either. They don't seem to want to reduce the size of government, though I can't say that Kasich really does either. One thing I do know is I much prefer their foreign policy positions than Kasich's.
He had a strong pro-life record and was always endorsed and supported by pro-life groups. Abortions were but I'm half and numerous clinics closed due to his actions/legislation. On the 6 week bill, he was right. It was unconstitutional at the time and would have cost OH taxpayers $millions in a futile effort.
He cut taxes and spending and balanced the budget despite inheriting a crap economy and huge deficits.
I agree with him on sentencing reform and marijuana.
I also have no problem with state laws protecting LGBTQ from discrimination as long as there are religious exemptions.
I'm not familiar with the assault weapons ban but if you're right, I oppose that.
"Neocon" has taken on a life of its own. I'd say Karachi was. Reagan Republican in national security/foreign affairs. I'm with him there.
The fracking issue was complex. He had given substantial incentives and breaks to O&Gs and basically said we're going to roll those back a bit to help balance the budget. While I disagree, it was not as if he was attacking fracking. He was ultra friendly to our business.
