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nein51
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ScottS said:

nein51 said:

ScottS said:

I'd rather Elon run things then the libtard politicians.

No. That's not how this works. We have a process and that process should be followed by both parties. While I certainly prefer Musk's newest political opinions to a lot of other people's all parties involved need to follow the process.

It's like people are goldfish in here.

In a few years whatever you're "doing to them" will be done back to you only they are much better at that game.

Both parties need to reigned in…a lot…and brought back to the middle, where 95% of people exist.

We've had congress run up $35T or $36T in debt in a very short time. Elon is picked by Trump (who was elected in Nov BTW) to provide a framework so that we don't end up $100T in debt in the near future. Elon has no votes in congress. Congress must do their job. Elon is just there to help. And I trust him way more than those that ran up all this debt.

If you ever spent 30 minutes doing model UN or model U.S. Senate you know why the debt rises. Because very little happens without money or tit for tat.

I'm 100% for anyone who is sane enough to cut the deficit but I'm telling you now that's not going to be popular and if you want republicans at the helm for a while it needs to be done with caution. I've already seen "cutting funding for children with cancer" which plays horribly with voters.

But having outsiders review spending bills makes good sense.

I'm absolutely steadfast that no individual should be "running things rather than the libtards" because when you act outside of the framework it comes back to bite you in the ass every single time. It's cool right now because your guy is doing it. The time always comes when it's not your guy.
ScottS
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FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

nein51 said:

ScottS said:

I'd rather Elon run things then the libtard politicians.

No. That's not how this works. We have a process and that process should be followed by both parties. While I certainly prefer Musk's newest political opinions to a lot of other people's all parties involved need to follow the process.

It's like people are goldfish in here.

In a few years whatever you're "doing to them" will be done back to you only they are much better at that game.

Both parties need to reigned in…a lot…and brought back to the middle, where 95% of people exist.

We've had congress run up $35T or $36T in debt in a very short time. Elon is picked by Trump (who was elected in Nov BTW) to provide a framework so that we don't end up $100T in debt in the near future. Elon has no votes in congress. Congress must do their job. Elon is just there to help. And I trust him way more than those that ran up all this debt.
Baaa...


But, let's give you the benefit of the doubt. The revenue potential is incredible.

Maybe a subscription service for you to give Elon your opinion, American Idol style. Elon can model the lated fashion wear as he makes has decision. 10% dedicated to paying off the debt (Elon will get 45% and Trump the other 45%)

Or, a "Running Man" style Congress show. Think about it, Congress makes its case Richard Dawson-ish host has the audience vote and then Elon gives a Thumbs up or down. Ad revenue would be through the roof. Again, 10% toward debt, etc...

Or, we could just go full blown Idiocracy and have Monster Trucks fight it out. Elon will do what he wants, but we will all be distracted and get our electrolytes.

This is gonna be big!

Baaa = you voting for The Big Guy that actually got 10%. You like libtard politicians that run up the debt. Elon aint getting nothing out of this. He wants to get the debt under control unlike the politicians that are there now. But maybe you like the status quo. Maybe you like huge levels of debt.
nein51
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

nein51 said:

ScottS said:

I'd rather Elon run things then the libtard politicians.

No. That's not how this works. We have a process and that process should be followed by both parties. While I certainly prefer Musk's newest political opinions to a lot of other people's all parties involved need to follow the process.

It's like people are goldfish in here.

In a few years whatever you're "doing to them" will be done back to you only they are much better at that game.

Both parties need to reigned in…a lot…and brought back to the middle, where 95% of people exist.

We've had congress run up $35T or $36T in debt in a very short time. Elon is picked by Trump (who was elected in Nov BTW) to provide a framework so that we don't end up $100T in debt in the near future. Elon has no votes in congress. Congress must do their job. Elon is just there to help. And I trust him way more than those that ran up all this debt.
Baaa...


But, let's give you the benefit of the doubt. The revenue potential is incredible.

Maybe a subscription service for you to give Elon your opinion, American Idol style. Elon can model the lated fashion wear as he makes has decision. 10% dedicated to paying off the debt (Elon will get 45% and Trump the other 45%)

Or, a "Running Man" style Congress show. Think about it, Congress makes its case Richard Dawson-ish host has the audience vote and then Elon gives a Thumbs up or down. Ad revenue would be through the roof. Again, 10% toward debt, etc...

Or, we could just go full blown Idiocracy and have Monster Trucks fight it out. Elon will do what he wants, but we will all be distracted and get our electrolytes.

This is gonna be big!

Baaa = you voting for The Big Guy that actually got 10%. You like libtard politicians that run up the debt. Elon aint getting nothing out of this. He wants to get the debt under control unlike the politicians that are there now. But maybe you like the status quo. Maybe you like huge levels of debt.

This is a crazy post.

I like Elon a lot. I think he's a visionary and maybe the biggest thinker of our generation. A guy who says "we can do that".

You've lost your mind if you think he's just doing it out of kindness and generosity. He would be the second human in history to do as much and the other guy walked on water.

He's crazy smart. We should listen to what he has to say. We should not let him or anyone else have carte blanche over policy positions.
ScottS
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5630 likes massive debt.
FLBear5630
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

nein51 said:

ScottS said:

I'd rather Elon run things then the libtard politicians.

No. That's not how this works. We have a process and that process should be followed by both parties. While I certainly prefer Musk's newest political opinions to a lot of other people's all parties involved need to follow the process.

It's like people are goldfish in here.

In a few years whatever you're "doing to them" will be done back to you only they are much better at that game.

Both parties need to reigned in…a lot…and brought back to the middle, where 95% of people exist.

We've had congress run up $35T or $36T in debt in a very short time. Elon is picked by Trump (who was elected in Nov BTW) to provide a framework so that we don't end up $100T in debt in the near future. Elon has no votes in congress. Congress must do their job. Elon is just there to help. And I trust him way more than those that ran up all this debt.
Baaa...


But, let's give you the benefit of the doubt. The revenue potential is incredible.

Maybe a subscription service for you to give Elon your opinion, American Idol style. Elon can model the lated fashion wear as he makes has decision. 10% dedicated to paying off the debt (Elon will get 45% and Trump the other 45%)

Or, a "Running Man" style Congress show. Think about it, Congress makes its case Richard Dawson-ish host has the audience vote and then Elon gives a Thumbs up or down. Ad revenue would be through the roof. Again, 10% toward debt, etc...

Or, we could just go full blown Idiocracy and have Monster Trucks fight it out. Elon will do what he wants, but we will all be distracted and get our electrolytes.

This is gonna be big!

Baaa = you voting for The Big Guy that actually got 10%. You like libtard politicians that run up the debt. Elon aint getting nothing out of this. He wants to get the debt under control unlike the politicians that are there now. But maybe you like the status quo. Maybe you like huge levels of debt.
I have never voted Dem. I have one Jerry Brown T-shirt from the 90's because I loved the 1-800 number on the back. Thought that was hilarious, different time. I voted for Trump's policies, not to turn the Nation over to Musk and Vivek.

Baa = turning everything over to Elon and Vivek to the point of them deciding which legislation should pass. And applauding.

That is pretty sheepish and a perversion of the system. We are not talking policies here, we are talking full giving the running of the Government to people with NO accountability and a vested interest in making money off those decisions. Musk is in the top 25 of getting Govt contracts, he is milking the taxpayer.

Make no mistake, this is not about Trump's policies or voting for the GOP platform. What happened this week is a whole new level of problems.
ScottS
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Elon and Vivek can't pass legislation. You realize that right?? They are there to make recommendations. Congress must do its job. Our country is $36T in debt because Congress hasn't done it job.
boognish_bear
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I agree that Elon is a smart dude and his accomplishments speak for themselves. We need smart people at the highest levels. Having a department exclusively focused on finding government waste and reducing spending is a good idea.

My fear with Elon is the potential for him to make decisions in his best self interest and not necessarily the best decisions for "every day" Americans.

He is in a seat with his new position, in addition to his closeness to Trump, to really tilt things in his personal economic favor. Then the question becomes would those decisions that benefit his companies and him personally also benefit all of us....especially those below the wealthy class?

We will have to wait and see.
nein51
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boognish_bear said:

I agree that Elon is a smart dude and his accomplishments speak for themselves. We need smart people at the highest levels. Having a department exclusively focused on finding government waste and reducing spending is a good idea.

My fear with Elon is the potential for him to make decisions in his best self interest and not necessarily the best decisions for "every day" Americans.

He is in a seat with his new position, in addition to his closeness to Trump, to really tilt things in his personal economic favor. Then the question becomes would those decisions that benefit his companies and him personally also benefit all of us....especially those below the wealthy class?

We will have to wait and see.

Think that largely depends on perspective. If I say "the government shouldn't fund studies for gay porcupines in New Zealand" that's going to be popular with the overwhelming majority of people…unless you're the people doing the study…or a gay porcupine in NZ.

So every dollar cut is a good thing unless it's your dollar. It's why spending is so popular and cutting is so unpopular.

Funding for the arts is a great example. The government shouldn't be funding The Met (or pick your place here). If The Met has value then the people getting the value should be funding it. However, that effects many thousands of artists, some of who, bring everlasting beauty. Everything is a trade off.
ScottS
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Our problem is the politicians in DC seem only interested in writing legislation that send $ out that will come back to them (like a boomerang).
ShooterTX
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boognish_bear said:

Well...almost half of Americans didn't vote for him...so what did they expect? Not exactly surprising news. Did we really need to run a poll to know this?



Are these the same polls that said Kamala was going to win?
historian
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Probably. Look at the source: a Leftwing propaganda rag.
boognish_bear
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Trump summoning the billionaire Avengers

whitetrash
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boognish_bear said:

Trump summoning the billionaire Avengers




He's going to be disappointed when he has trouble finding overpriced mediocre seafood restaurants in Rome.
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whitetrash said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump summoning the billionaire Avengers




He's going to be disappointed when he has trouble finding overpriced mediocre seafood restaurants in Rome.
LOL, you have not been to Rome in quite a while if you think that!
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That's not exactly how he said it

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