BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Is this your personal definition? Defining homosexuality solely based on sexual behavior is a narrow and inaccurate perspective. Homosexuality is not just about sexual behavior but is also about one's feelings towards individuals of the same sex.

This is not some opinion, but is literally what the word means.

Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Is this your personal definition?

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No. That is pretty much what you have to do to be a homosexual. Sine qua non.

BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

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You provide a definition of sexual attraction as a justification for behavior and as evidence it's a valid "orientation". I provided further examples of sexual attraction and you balk because they aren't yet culturally acceptable 'orientations'. You switch your argument from one of 'attraction = valid orientation' to one of consent when confronted with that exact argument.

I notice you left out the other examples I mentioned of disordered sexual attraction where adults consent to humiliation or extreme physical abuse. Because "consent", no doubt. Consent doesn't make something healthy or valid. Violently sodomizing a partner who is tied up, with a ball gag in her mouth, whilst spitting on her and calling her degrading names and then ejaculating on her face, isn't any less disordered because of consent.

All disordered sexual attraction is disordered, regardless at who or what it fetishizes. Remove God from the debate and substitute evolution and you can come to only that one conclusion, if you are intellectually honest. And they must ALL be chosen by the actor to act upon.

BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

Hilarious how many gay guys in this thread discussing their troubles. Anyone actually straight would realize there is no amount of moral failing or coercing that would make straight people want to be gay.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Heterosexuals who do not engage in deviant behavior are the norm. A person who is celibate cannot not be a homosexual any more than a virgin or person who resists temptation can be a s'lut.

ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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What is crazy is thinking that "mother nature" programmed a small minority of people to engage in physically and emotionally destructive behavior and you think they have no choice but to either engage in that destructive behavior or "struggle" with the urge to do so. What is crazy is thinking that there is a fatalistic determination on some people to injure themselves and subject themselves to high rates of disease and intimate-partner violence. That is crazy. I think we all have a choice.

ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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You need to read the thread above for context. Sin is sin.

Osodecentx said:

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ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

---

Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

---

All the time

---

and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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You need to read the thread above for context. Sin is sin.

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Right. He/She attacked you and the two of you probably agree more than disagree about this issue. When Jinx is angry, Jinx is angry.

Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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I think there are good people who have same sex attraction. They struggle and live with it, but it exists.

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There are decent people who struggle with every type of sin under the sun.

Except those who prey on children or a person weaker than they are, that is another level of evil.

BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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I think there are good people who have same sex attraction. They struggle and live with it, but it exists.

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I don't deny it. There are a lot of people who are faced with temptations every day. But you don't get to simply transform your temptation into an identity.

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I agree. Just hate to see them demonized .

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Bless your heart. Who is "demonizing" anyone?

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You are Read your post above. You state that homosexuality is a choice. That may be true for many, but not for all. You demonize celibate homosexuals who are struggling with temptation

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No, homosexuality is a choice for everyone who engages in homosexual conduct. That is not demonizing anyone. that is a fact and your refusal to accept or understand that fact does not change it.

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Are you saying that everyone who has same sex attractions have chosen that?

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I am saying that everyone who engages in homosexual conduct has chosen to engage in that conduct. And since you brought it up, yes, if someone has an attraction to the same sex, then they have at one point made that choice and the pattern continued. Just like a man who thinks of someone other than his wife, he made that choice at one point. Hopefully, he deals with those thoughts before they intensify and manifest into physical adultery.

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You are incorrect. We don't have anything to discuss.

Have a great day

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Lol. QED, professor Thinskin?

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He likely had to take the knob out of his mouth to type his response. It explains why he's so snippy.

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very inappropriate , per your usual. Hope you get banned yet again. Grow up.

Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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sounds like you have spent entirely too much time visiting porn sites..... get your hypocrite on!

J.R. said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

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Thank you. I feel honored to be in any group of people you don't hold in high esteem.

Golem said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

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You provide a definition of sexual attraction as a justification for behavior and as evidence it's a valid "orientation". I provided further examples of sexual attraction and you balk because they aren't yet culturally acceptable 'orientations'. You switch your argument from one of 'attraction = valid orientation' to one of consent when confronted with that exact argument.

I notice you left out the other examples I mentioned of disordered sexual attraction where adults consent to humiliation or extreme physical abuse. Because "consent", no doubt. Consent doesn't make something healthy or valid. Violently sodomizing a partner who is tied up, with a ball gag in her mouth, whilst spitting on her and calling her degrading names and then ejaculating on her face, isn't any less disordered because of consent.

All disordered sexual attraction is disordered, regardless at who or what it fetishizes. Remove God from the debate and substitute evolution and you can come to only that one conclusion, if you are intellectually honest. And they must ALL be chosen by the actor to act upon.

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so, you are gay?

He Hate Me said:

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J.R. said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

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Thank you. I feel honored to be in any group of people you don't hold in high esteem.

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I have serious distain for hateful people. Period. You fit.

ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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And this is a bat **** crazy response. He was simply saying fleeing or avoiding sin is a good thing, no matter what that sin is. Not sinning is not sinning, whether the urge is theft, lying, murder, gossip, or whatever urge to sin you have, he was saying, at least I think, that overcoming sin, any sin, is a good thing.

He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Is this your personal definition?

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No. That is pretty much what you have to do to be a homosexual. Sine qua non.

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Here is the definition of homosexuality from a few different sources:

• Collins English Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire directed towards a person or persons of one's own sex."
• Cambridge Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire for people of the same sex."
• American Heritage Dictionary: "Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex."

To be clear, you believe that these definitions of homosexuality are incorrect, and it is instead purely about the act and not the desire? Do you have any evidence to back this up, or are you just being ignorant?

J.R. said:

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Golem said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

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You provide a definition of sexual attraction as a justification for behavior and as evidence it's a valid "orientation". I provided further examples of sexual attraction and you balk because they aren't yet culturally acceptable 'orientations'. You switch your argument from one of 'attraction = valid orientation' to one of consent when confronted with that exact argument.

I notice you left out the other examples I mentioned of disordered sexual attraction where adults consent to humiliation or extreme physical abuse. Because "consent", no doubt. Consent doesn't make something healthy or valid. Violently sodomizing a partner who is tied up, with a ball gag in her mouth, whilst spitting on her and calling her degrading names and then ejaculating on her face, isn't any less disordered because of consent.

All disordered sexual attraction is disordered, regardless at who or what it fetishizes. Remove God from the debate and substitute evolution and you can come to only that one conclusion, if you are intellectually honest. And they must ALL be chosen by the actor to act upon.

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so, you are gay? I'll still love you regardless!

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Is this your personal definition?

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No. That is pretty much what you have to do to be a homosexual. Sine qua non.

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Here is the definition of homosexuality from a few different sources:

• Collins English Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire directed towards a person or persons of one's own sex."
• Cambridge Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire for people of the same sex."
• American Heritage Dictionary: "Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex."

To be clear, you believe that these definitions of homosexuality are incorrect, and it is instead purely about the act and not the desire? Do you have any evidence to back this up, or are you just being ignorant?

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These definitions are incorrect. Because to be a homosexual, you have to be engaged in conduct that makes you sexual with the same kind. If one is merely attracted to someone of the same sex, then that is all there is to it. You don't become a homosexual without a sexual act--this is the literal meaning of the two greek and latin words that were joined together. You should study the root words and etymology of the word.

This stuff about "an attraction" is better described as homoromantic or maybe even homoerotic.

Golem said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

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You provide a definition of sexual attraction as a justification for behavior and as evidence it's a valid "orientation". I provided further examples of sexual attraction and you balk because they aren't yet culturally acceptable 'orientations'. You switch your argument from one of 'attraction = valid orientation' to one of consent when confronted with that exact argument.

I notice you left out the other examples I mentioned of disordered sexual attraction where adults consent to humiliation or extreme physical abuse. Because "consent", no doubt. Consent doesn't make something healthy or valid. Violently sodomizing a partner who is tied up, with a ball gag in her mouth, whilst spitting on her and calling her degrading names and then ejaculating on her face, isn't any less disordered because of consent.

All disordered sexual attraction is disordered, regardless at who or what it fetishizes. Remove God from the debate and substitute evolution and you can come to only that one conclusion, if you are intellectually honest. And they must ALL be chosen by the actor to act upon.

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I never said that sexual attraction is a justification for behavior. Sexual orientation is not synonymous with sexual behavior or preferences, as people may engage in sexual behaviors that do not align with their orientation (APA, 2008). In this context, homosexuality refers to a sexual orientation and not simply a choice or preference.

Consensual BDSM activities, including masochism, are not inherently immoral or unethical as long as they are practiced safely, consensually, and with respect for all parties involved. I truly couldn't give two ****s what people do in the bedroom, as long as they meet that criteria.

ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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I wouldn't call them evil, just uncultured and overall ignorant of the actual biology/genetics of what makes up someone's sexual orientation. Calling it a choice is laughably incorrect.

He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Is this your personal definition?

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No. That is pretty much what you have to do to be a homosexual. Sine qua non.

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Here is the definition of homosexuality from a few different sources:

• Collins English Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire directed towards a person or persons of one's own sex."
• Cambridge Dictionary: "Sexual activity or desire for people of the same sex."
• American Heritage Dictionary: "Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex."

To be clear, you believe that these definitions of homosexuality are incorrect, and it is instead purely about the act and not the desire? Do you have any evidence to back this up, or are you just being ignorant?

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These definitions are incorrect. Because to be a homosexual, you have to be engaged in conduct that makes you sexual with the same kind. If one is merely attracted to someone of the same sex, then that is all there is to it. You don't become a homosexual without a sexual act--this is the literal meaning of the two greek and latin words that were joined together. You should study the root words and etymology of the word.

This stuff about "an attraction" is better described as homoromantic or maybe even homoerotic.

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While it is true that the word homosexual has its roots in Greek and Latin words meaning "same" and "sexual", respectively, the meaning of words can evolve and change over time.

I am not attempting to build a case for the definition of Homosexuality in 200BC Greece, but in present time with our drastically improved understanding of human sexual orientation.

BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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Golem said:

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He Hate Me said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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A homosexual is someone who engages in sexual conduct with someone of the same sex. If you don't act on a same sex attraction, then you are either celibate or still straight.

In other words, there is no homosexual without a homosexual act. No one is a homosexual but some acts are homosexual.

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Also, there are plenty of disordered sexual impulses. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to kids. Bestiality has humans sexually attracted to animals. Cuckoldry has men sexually attracted to the site of other men railing their wives. Sadists are sexually attracted inflicting pain. Masochists are sexually attracted to receiving pain. Necrophiliacs are sexually attracted to corpses.

The existence of sexual attraction to something or someone not fit for the purpose is not an orientation. It's a disorder. A vote by a group of politically motivated psychiatrists in 1973, while their gathering was protested by militant homosexual fetishists, will never change that.

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Do you genuinely believe that adults assaulting and raping children, or assaulting an animal, or assaulting a rotting corpse is even remotely in the same ballpark as two adults having a consensual relationship?

There is a monumental difference between assaulting someone/something, and consent between adults.

You may believe that this type of relationship is not as God intended, which I completely understand as I have once held the same view, but please do not lump homosexuals with child rapists. That is incredibly offensive and bigoted.

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You provide a definition of sexual attraction as a justification for behavior and as evidence it's a valid "orientation". I provided further examples of sexual attraction and you balk because they aren't yet culturally acceptable 'orientations'. You switch your argument from one of 'attraction = valid orientation' to one of consent when confronted with that exact argument.

I notice you left out the other examples I mentioned of disordered sexual attraction where adults consent to humiliation or extreme physical abuse. Because "consent", no doubt. Consent doesn't make something healthy or valid. Violently sodomizing a partner who is tied up, with a ball gag in her mouth, whilst spitting on her and calling her degrading names and then ejaculating on her face, isn't any less disordered because of consent.

All disordered sexual attraction is disordered, regardless at who or what it fetishizes. Remove God from the debate and substitute evolution and you can come to only that one conclusion, if you are intellectually honest. And they must ALL be chosen by the actor to act upon.

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I never said that sexual attraction is a justification for behavior. Sexual orientation is not synonymous with sexual behavior or preferences, as people may engage in sexual behaviors that do not align with their orientation (APA, 2008). In this context, homosexuality refers to a sexual orientation and not simply a choice or preference.

Consensual BDSM activities, including masochism, are not inherently immoral or unethical as long as they are practiced safely, consensually, and with respect for all parties involved. I truly couldn't give two ****s what people do in the bedroom, as long as they meet that criteria.

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just stop........making sense . "David Byrne"

J.R. said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

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Lol - I don't want to conclude they a moron just based on this one interaction. Geniuses are capable of holding incorrect viewpoints and beliefs. An ignorant post is still an ignorant post though.

I mostly just hope to understand their thought process on why the believe it is a choice, and not an innate orientation that one does not choose.

ron.reagan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual?

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Have you ever read something on these boards that it made you want to slap that person upside the head and knock some sense into them?

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All the time

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and yet, you've not assaulted anyone. You've resisted your urges.

So by your method of applying definitions, you're a violent criminal yet by his method, you're not.

Double standard much?

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Aren't we all? It is the definition of civility.
I bet you have committed adultery in your heart. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Heterosexuals who resist urges to rape can live exemplary lives and contribute to society.
Celibate homosexuals resist temptation and can live exemplary lives.

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Really just shows how bat **** crazy and evil the modern christian is. Rape and homosexuality is on the same level to you people. So glad this rabid breed of religion is fading out. Good luck in your struggles

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You think ancient Christians (or ancient Jews) approved of homosexuality?

BaylorJacket said:

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J.R. said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

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Lol - I don't want to conclude they a moron just based on this one interaction. Geniuses are capable of holding incorrect viewpoints and beliefs. An ignorant post is still an ignorant post though.

I mostly just hope to understand their thought process on why the believe it is a choice, and not an innate orientation that one does not choose.

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I appreciate that, but this is common place for that dude.

BaylorJacket said:

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J.R. said:

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BaylorJacket said:

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He Hate Me said:

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No one is a homosexual. There are people who engage in homosexual conduct. It is not an immutable characteristic as some would like you to believe.

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Holy ****, this might be the most ignorant post I've seen on the board. Homosexuality is by definition a sexual orientation that is characterized by a romantic and/or sexual attraction to individuals of the same gender.

Do you genuinely believe no one is actually homosexual

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he is an absolute moron! He has now surpassed old 83, Wang, and the rest of the nuts.

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Lol - I don't want to conclude they a moron just based on this one interaction. Geniuses are capable of holding incorrect viewpoints and beliefs. An ignorant post is still an ignorant post though.

I mostly just hope to understand their thought process on why the believe it is a choice, and not an innate orientation that one does not choose.

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1. Where is the proof that it is genetic or an innate orientation? If you have it...please post the info. Its an interesting topic to discuss.

2. Even if proven that homosexuality might be innate. That does not mean it is an acceptable sexual practice or lifestyle. We might one day find out BDSM fetish is innate or hardwired. That would not make it acceptable. Heterosexuality among men and the desire to sleep with as many women as possible being proven to be innate would still not make philandering behavior acceptable.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-study-finds-no-single-genetic-cause-of-same-sex-sexual-behavior/