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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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We've "allowed" his predecessors and replacement, so it begs the question as to why now?

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I can't stand the fat SOB but agree the charges are weak. However, Bragg going first is going to blunt the backlash when the real charges from Georgia and the 1/6 prosecutor arrive. And for those I hope he does time. Then I hope to help Youngkin or Christie or Desantis mop up the floor with what's left of Biden.

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Georgia's never going to happen. There were election shenanigans and neither side wants it to be forced into the open via subpoena.

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Either it's illegal to pay off people to hush up during political campaigns or it isn't. Real simple. The fact that it was a porn star is just some butter on the popcorn, doesn't change the nature of the thing.

I'm of the mind that they should not being these charges at this time. However I'm also not sure when the proper time is. At the end of the day, if he broke the law during his first campaign, what do you wait for to charge him. The 7th campaign? Waiting till he has lost seems fair.

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Then the question is, why didn't the feds indict him for it? Most likely because they usually look the other way on most campaign finance violations, especially one such as this, where money was not misused but instead not properly reported.

It was the feds duty to bring the claim, and because they did not, the DA is reportedly trying to shoehorn a misdemeanor allegation into a felony based on a purported campaign finance violation that Trump has never been charged with or convicted of. That screams political prosecution.

To me, the better route to go after Trump, and one that has real legs, is his attempts to intimidate GA officials into throwing the election. Yet in their zeal to get Trump, the DA has purportedly brought some flimsy claims.

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Disagree on GA, saying "Find me the votes..." can be interpreted as just a vernacular phrase, not to be taken literally. GA would be a lot of circumstantial general comments that a reasonable person would not take as literal Especially with someone like Trump that doesn't exactly use precise language for anything.

I do think this will end in a acquittal, but turn up some questionable financial practices that will out DOJ in a tough spot and give the media a lot of ammo.

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We can agree to disagree. I think we know exactly what Trump was doing.

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You really think he meant to manufacture votes? Sorry, I read it more as a figurative comment, he wanted more votes and higher turnout but not to physically go a create votes. Trump consistently has spoken in figurative language, he consistently exaggerated to get a point across. Same as saying "I can eat a horse" or "I am going to kill you in a contest".

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What he wanted was for Georgia to throw out enough votes in majority dem (black) areas to change the result, based on claims of "fraud" that he arguably knew or should have know were bullsht. There's a reason his attacks have been so laser focused on certain counties, it's the ones that went overwhelmingly blue so throwing out their votes wouldnt hurt his own vote total much. All he really needed was to throw out 15-20k or so of the "right" votes in a given precinct to make him the winner. Remember, it's not just Trump's call to the Georgia SecState at issue, he also called the local US Attorney, Governor Kemp, and the Georgia Speaker of the House all with substantially the same request: do whatever they had to do to change the winner to him. Lindsey Graham and a host of others participated in that same scheme too.

The Georgia case has stronger legs, but that doesn't mean Bragg doesn't have the goods either. Lindsey Graham almost cried his eyes out last night on Fox begging for people to donate to Trump, he knows what might be coming out of Georgia and what it means for both of them.

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Queen Lindsey has become just a pathetic boot licker politician. ZERO respect for that arse clown getting all teary eyed and begging people to send $ to Trump. Saw it last night and it was just pathetic. I don't know who is, worse, Trumps, Jim Jordon or Queen Lindsey. What a clown show.

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Yet they're still not as big of clowns as democrats and Biden.

Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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Agreed.

There will be revenge 'investigations' as well as political prosecutions.

The worst part is, this will drive away people we need in office. Only the power-hungry and the demagogues will be willing to tough the gauntlet in order to win office. Those who simply want to serve their country will seek other avenues.

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LateSteak69 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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As a democrat, do you think it's shady that they go after Trump but shove the Epstein client list under the rug?

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Trump is also on that list.

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Maybe. Bill Clinton and many neoliberal elites are and they're all untouchable.

Are you a democrat?

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yes they are..

The fact not a single person has ever been anythinged from Epstiens list says it all.

Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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I can't stand the fat SOB but agree the charges are weak. However, Bragg going first is going to blunt the backlash when the real charges from Georgia and the 1/6 prosecutor arrive. And for those I hope he does time. Then I hope to help Youngkin or Christie or Desantis mop up the floor with what's left of Biden.

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Georgia's never going to happen. There were election shenanigans and neither side wants it to be forced into the open via subpoena.

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GA is a can of worms both sides want closed up.

J6 is pretty much either they hid real evidence so far or they got nothing and the J6 commitee political theater messed up any real chance at a trial.

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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Sorry, the FBI has admitted it and Twitter Files exposed exactly how deep it went. Don't take my word for it, search it out for yourself.

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Dems are politically brilliant .

This legally flawed and obviously politically motivated indictment will never put Trump in jail.

Even with the most liberal judge available and a jury made up of the biggest Trump haters to be found in Manhattan.

Any 'guilty' verdict will be tossed on appeal .

So why did the Dem power brokers authorize this shame ?

To motivate Trump's diehard base and intimidate any other Republicans from running against the ' martyr ' during the presidential primary .

Dems WANT to face Trump in the 2024 general election ( as he is a far weaker opponent than DeSantis ) .

Dems KNOW Trump is hated by most independents, women and younger voters .

Trump the 'martyr' is now the odds on favorite to win the Republican nomination.

Whom the Dems will mud stomp in the general election despite every economic, social and foreign policy screw up imaginable.

100% brilliant political warfare.

Dems…..continue to outthink and outmaneuver the Republicans .

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They don't know how to govern though, which means we're headed for even tougher times.

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Dems know how to 'govern'.

Old conservative Christians just don't like what they are accomplishing .



The utter destruction of the traditional cultural , economic, and judicial fabric of the United States .

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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It's amazing anyone still legitimately believes this

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Merely another example why apartment buildings are more prevalent than multi million dollar mansions .

Wangchung said:

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xxx yyy said:

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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Sorry, the FBI has admitted it and Twitter Files exposed exactly how deep it went. Don't take my word for it, search it out for yourself.

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First of all, the FBI is an investigative organization, not intelligence. Secondly, I assume you are referring to the Steele Dossier, and a meeting that took place in September between a member of the FBI and a lawyer connected to the campaign. The Agent in question was acquitted in a calamitous case that was so flawed that highly considered career prosecutors resigned to walk away from the case. The September meeting meant nothing as the FBI had already opened an investigation in late July due to the actions of George Papadopoulos. The Dossier was always an add-on to the investigation and many involved have testified to their reservations to the validity of parts of that document. Finally, the notion that FBI or other entities were conspiring with DNC is laughable as Trumpians make the claim while also foisting conspiracy theories as to reluctance of the DNC to turn over the hacked computer to FBI. So DNC was conspiring with an Agency they were refusing to cooperate with, the same Agency that slammed their candidate in May and put a pretty big wrench in their campaign in October.

Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. Your old but your jaw still works.

LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. Your old but your jaw still works.

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I'm old but factual.

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. You're old but your jaw still works.

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I'm old but factual.

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No you're not. You are an absolute ****ing nut.

LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. You're old but your jaw still works.

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I'm old but factual.

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No you're not. You are an absolute ****ing nut.

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You seem angry. But then, you always seem angry.

Too bad if facts make you angry ...

Oldbear83 said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. You're old but your jaw still works.

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I'm old but factual.

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No you're not. You are an absolute ****ing nut.

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You seem angry. But then, you always seem angry.

Too bad if facts make you angry ...

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You are the angriest dood on this forum. By a mile.

LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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1. Bragg ran for DA on a promise to "Indict Trump"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/31/alvin-bragg-made-his-tough-trump-record-central-hi/

2. Democrats made up crap twice to impeach Trump, so it's no shock a NYC Grand Jury would run with a similar piece of crap

3. Experts already warn this case is weaker than Joe Biden's economic policy

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/democrats-giddy-at-trump-indictment-but-legal-experts-warn-case-is-weak/

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Cool story. You're old but your jaw still works.

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I'm old but factual.

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No you're not. You are an absolute ****ing nut.

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You seem angry. But then, you always seem angry.

Too bad if facts make you angry ...

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You are the angriest dood on this forum. By a mile.

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you must not have met JR..

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart.

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I think we can consider the ambitious part confirmed.

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Dems cheated via massive mail in votes in Atlanta etc. The participation rate of registered voters in Atlanta etc , all heavy Dem districts, was like 88%. Normally its like 55% to 57%. This can't be. So however they CHEATED. Cleavlend had a voter participation rate of like 56% in 2020. So however they cheated, they cheated. They tried to mailout 2.2 million ballots in Harris County, TX. Ken Paxton put a stop to it via the courts.

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Yet, there does not seem to be proof 3 years later. Everything you say MAY be true, nothing has turned up to support that it really happened. Even Trump with all his money has noting credible. On the voting machines FOX is being sued and the case has been approved to go forward.

I agree that States did not follow their rules and vote harvesting, extended periods and drop boxes influenced the outcome. But there has been nothing credible to indicate those votes were fraudulent.

Or, the WHOLE Nation is in on a conspiracy against Trump and hiding the truth. The Dems, GOP, Green Party, Courts, Congress, State Legislatures, Federal Law Enforcement, State Law Enforcement, All Supervisors of Elections, every media (domestic and international) except FOX.

All those people are in co-hoots to make sure that Biden wins and poor Donald loses?????

As some point, all of us have to look at the peer reviewed data and say we lost. If it was true at least one State something would have stuck by now!

We ran the wrong candidate and A LARGE percentage over 80 million did not like Trump. We are not talking "W" or Bill Clinton who even if you disagreed with their politics are likeable. Trump is one of the most unlikable people on the Planet, disliked universally. And that is going to be our Candidate the GOP will fight for till the end. Just DO NOT get it. Move on.

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Dems cheated via massive mail in votes in Atlanta etc. The participation rate of registered voters in Atlanta etc , all heavy Dem districts, was like 88%. Normally its like 55% to 57%. This can't be. So however they CHEATED. Cleavlend had a voter participation rate of like 56% in 2020. So however they cheated, they cheated. They tried to mailout 2.2 million ballots in Harris County, TX. Ken Paxton put a stop to it via the courts.

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Yet, there does not seem to be proof 3 years later. Everything you say MAY be true, nothing has turned up to support that it really happened. Even Trump with all his money has noting credible. On the voting machines FOX is being sued and the case has been approved to go forward.

I agree that States did not follow their rules and vote harvesting, extended periods and drop boxes influenced the outcome. But there has been nothing credible to indicate those votes were fraudulent.

Or, the WHOLE Nation is in on a conspiracy against Trump and hiding the truth. The Dems, GOP, Green Party, Courts, Congress, State Legislatures, Federal Law Enforcement, State Law Enforcement, All Supervisors of Elections, every media (domestic and international) except FOX.

All those people are in co-hoots to make sure that Biden wins and poor Donald loses?????

As some point, all of us have to look at the peer reviewed data and say we lost. If it was true at least one State something would have stuck by now!

We ran the wrong candidate and A LARGE percentage over 80 million did not like Trump. We are not talking "W" or Bill Clinton who even if you disagreed with their politics are likeable. Trump is one of the most unlikable people on the Planet, disliked universally. And that is going to be our Candidate the GOP will fight for till the end. Just DO NOT get it. Move on.

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counting votes that are not in accordance with state rules are fraudulent votes.

Few want to challenge the way is was done but the ones that have challenged so far have been successful in proving that votes were incorrectly counted. Rules have been changed in places because of it.

Call it election fraud, call it election law violations, call it whatever.. it happened, there is proof it happened and it some places, it will happen again.

It changes nothing.

4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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chriscbear said:

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Dems cheated via massive mail in votes in Atlanta etc. The participation rate of registered voters in Atlanta etc , all heavy Dem districts, was like 88%. Normally its like 55% to 57%. This can't be. So however they CHEATED. Cleavlend had a voter participation rate of like 56% in 2020. So however they cheated, they cheated. They tried to mailout 2.2 million ballots in Harris County, TX. Ken Paxton put a stop to it via the courts.

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Yet, there does not seem to be proof 3 years later. Everything you say MAY be true, nothing has turned up to support that it really happened. Even Trump with all his money has noting credible. On the voting machines FOX is being sued and the case has been approved to go forward.

I agree that States did not follow their rules and vote harvesting, extended periods and drop boxes influenced the outcome. But there has been nothing credible to indicate those votes were fraudulent.

Or, the WHOLE Nation is in on a conspiracy against Trump and hiding the truth. The Dems, GOP, Green Party, Courts, Congress, State Legislatures, Federal Law Enforcement, State Law Enforcement, All Supervisors of Elections, every media (domestic and international) except FOX.

All those people are in co-hoots to make sure that Biden wins and poor Donald loses?????

As some point, all of us have to look at the peer reviewed data and say we lost. If it was true at least one State something would have stuck by now!

We ran the wrong candidate and A LARGE percentage over 80 million did not like Trump. We are not talking "W" or Bill Clinton who even if you disagreed with their politics are likeable. Trump is one of the most unlikable people on the Planet, disliked universally. And that is going to be our Candidate the GOP will fight for till the end. Just DO NOT get it. Move on.

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counting votes that are not in accordance with state rules are fraudulent votes.

Few want to challenge the way is was done but the ones that have challenged so far have been successful in proving that votes were incorrectly counted. Rules have been changed in places because of it.

Call it election fraud, call it election law violations, call it whatever.. it happened, there is proof it happened and it some places, it will happen again.

It changes nothing.

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Do you believe Trump won the 2020 election?

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LateSteak69 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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LateSteak69 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Weaponizing the law to exact retribution on a President is not something you come back from.

Rubicon crossed.

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So thats what this indictment is about?

Trying to overthrow an election as a sitting president is not something you come back from ( unless you are part of the cult).

Rubicon pissed on, then crossed.

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I'd love to hear why you think they have a strong case against Trump with sound legalese.

Since you can't actually accomplish that, I'd love to know why think it's ok to charge a former president and now candidate for political reasons and why it's a good thing.

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I'd like to see how you think it's ok that a sitting president tried to over throw a GD election.

But you are a cultist, and can't.

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So in your mind, that's what this indictment is about?

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we have NO idea what the 40 counts are. Obviously, the good Trumps banging a porn star whilst his 3rd wife was preggers and paying her off prior to the election is one. We need to wait on the balance before anyone can make a cal.

ATL Bear said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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We've "allowed" his predecessors and replacement, so it begs the question as to why now?

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whataboutism is not the issue here. just stop with that crap.

Oldbear83 said:

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"First of all, the FBI is an investigative organization, not intelligence. "

The FBI is the lead intelligence agency for intelligence activities in the United States, especially counter-espionage.

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Yep. Blew that one.

Wangchung said:

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xxx yyy said:

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Wangchung said:

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xxx yyy said:

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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Sorry, the FBI has admitted it and Twitter Files exposed exactly how deep it went. Don't take my word for it, search it out for yourself.

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First of all, the FBI is an investigative organization, not intelligence. Secondly, I assume you are referring to the Steele Dossier, and a meeting that took place in September between a member of the FBI and a lawyer connected to the campaign. The Agent in question was acquitted in a calamitous case that was so flawed that highly considered career prosecutors resigned to walk away from the case. The September meeting meant nothing as the FBI had already opened an investigation in late July due to the actions of George Papadopoulos. The Dossier was always an add-on to the investigation and many involved have testified to their reservations to the validity of parts of that document. Finally, the notion that FBI or other entities were conspiring with DNC is laughable as Trumpians make the claim while also foisting conspiracy theories as to reluctance of the DNC to turn over the hacked computer to FBI. So DNC was conspiring with an Agency they were refusing to cooperate with, the same Agency that slammed their candidate in May and put a pretty big wrench in their campaign in October.

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I literally said Twitter Files. How can you still be confused?

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OK. My bad. I was trying to find some correlation of Twitter, FBI, and DNC. My point is: connecting the dots from Twitter to DNC or a Manhatten DA does not follow. Let's face it, if the top people in American intelligence are by means of a global cabal conspiring with Democrats and local DAs to bring vengeance upon a former President, if with all that, the best they come up with is hush money to a porn star, we have both a problem with a conspiracy and a deeper problem with incompetence in our Intelligence services.
The case brought in NYC is looked upon as being weak. Once the counts of the indictment are made public, we will have some understanding of whether this is a legitimate attempt at justice or a DA trying for his 15 minutes of fame.

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Weaponizing the law to exact retribution on a President is not something you come back from.

Rubicon crossed.

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So thats what this indictment is about?

Trying to overthrow an election as a sitting president is not something you come back from ( unless you are part of the cult).

Rubicon pissed on, then crossed.

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I'd love to hear why you think they have a strong case against Trump with sound legalese.

Since you can't actually accomplish that, I'd love to know why think it's ok to charge a former president and now candidate for political reasons and why it's a good thing.

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I'd like to see how you think it's ok that a sitting president tried to over throw a GD election.

But you are a cultist, and can't.

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So in your mind, that's what this indictment is about?

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we have NO idea what the 40 counts are. Obviously, the good Trumps banging a porn star whilst his 3rd wife was preggers and paying her off prior to the election is one. We need to wait on the balance before anyone can make a cal.

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What a shock, you think these NY charges could cover Jan 6th in Washington DC. Do you think these charges could also cover unpaid parking tickets in California? I mean, since we don't know the specifics we can make up anything, right? Orange man bad so common sense and reason are unnecessary.

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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We've "allowed" his predecessors and replacement, so it begs the question as to why now?

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whataboutism is not the issue here. just stop with that crap.

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Unequal enforcement of the law most certainly is a huge issue here. The fact you don't care shows exactly why it's become a problem; brainwashed masses ALLOWING it to happen.

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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OK, please stop for a moment. DNC controlled intelligence agencies? Are you serious. Stop borrowing phrases and reason with me. If we learned things about the 2016 election, you must have noticed the Democratic National Committee is about as divided, and technologically incompetent as any group could be. The DNC could not successfully conspire against a ham sandwich, without the sandwich finding out about it from a Hilaryite or Bernie-ite or some yahoo from any number of factions within the Party.
Secondly, Federal law enforcement deals with local law enforcement when they are ordered to. The same goes for local. If an intelligence service spoke without authorization to a Manhattan DA, they would face jail time.
People tell me Bragg, Manhattan DA is ambitious and smart. I don't know, you don't know, no one here knows what Bragg has on Trump. But unless he is much, much dumber than people say, he is bringing a case because he believes he has one. We will have a better idea when the indictment is made public.

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Sorry, the FBI has admitted it and Twitter Files exposed exactly how deep it went. Don't take my word for it, search it out for yourself.

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First of all, the FBI is an investigative organization, not intelligence. Secondly, I assume you are referring to the Steele Dossier, and a meeting that took place in September between a member of the FBI and a lawyer connected to the campaign. The Agent in question was acquitted in a calamitous case that was so flawed that highly considered career prosecutors resigned to walk away from the case. The September meeting meant nothing as the FBI had already opened an investigation in late July due to the actions of George Papadopoulos. The Dossier was always an add-on to the investigation and many involved have testified to their reservations to the validity of parts of that document. Finally, the notion that FBI or other entities were conspiring with DNC is laughable as Trumpians make the claim while also foisting conspiracy theories as to reluctance of the DNC to turn over the hacked computer to FBI. So DNC was conspiring with an Agency they were refusing to cooperate with, the same Agency that slammed their candidate in May and put a pretty big wrench in their campaign in October.

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I literally said Twitter Files. How can you still be confused?

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OK. My bad. I was trying to find some correlation of Twitter, FBI, and DNC. My point is: connecting the dots from Twitter to DNC or a Manhatten DA does not follow. Let's face it, if the top people in American intelligence are by means of a global cabal conspiring with Democrats and local DAs to bring vengeance upon a former President, if with all that, the best they come up with is hush money to a porn star, we have both a problem with a conspiracy and a deeper problem with incompetence in our Intelligence services.
The case brought in NYC is looked upon as being weak. Once the counts of the indictment are made public, we will have some understanding of whether this is a legitimate attempt at justice or a DA trying for his 15 minutes of fame.

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Yes, it DOES follow if you bother to read the Twitter Files.

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I think it is bad for the country that a former president got indicted.

Trump may be the first, but he won't be the last. You pick the man, I'll find the crime. This is a bad road we're traveling.

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So, Trump should be aloud to break laws, lie, cheat and steal and that is ok with you?

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Many think Trump should be allowed to participate in the election process without being attacked and harassed by the dnc controlled intelligence agencies and activist DAs based on spurious at best accusations based on standards that literally no one else has ever been held to.

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that wasn't the question. Please answer. I just, for the life of my why you evangelical types think his behavior is in anyone ok. Please let me know how you square a ho chaser, cheater, crook, liar, bully ect is ok? just wondering. I just don't get it.