How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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historian said:

Jesus is still on our midst. The difference is that His presence is not physical. It's spiritual. He promised to be with us until the end of the age.


No. When Jesus is physically here, that is when the Kingdom of Heaven is in your midst. When Jesus returns physically back to the Earth then the kingdom of heaven will be in our midst again. Jesus is going to set up a physical kingdom here on Earth when He returns. Yes the Holy Spirit is here to teach us and guide us until that happens but that is not the kingdom of heaven. That is why Paul didn't preach the kingdom of heaven.
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Jesus is not in our presence physically but He is in the hearts of Christians. This is a spiritual presence, the Holy Spirit. We cannot understand the Trinity but God in three persons is very real.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Jesus is not in our presence physically but He is in the hearts of Christians. This is a spiritual presence, the Holy Spirit. We cannot understand the Trinity but God in three persons is very real.


Ok, but that is not the Kingdom of heaven. The Ki gdom of heaven is Christ's Physical, earthly Kingdom when Je is physically on the earth. He will physically rule over all men on earth. That will happen in the future after tge Great Tribulation period.
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The Kingdom of Heaven is in heaven. That's where the presence of God the Father and God is located. But God is Spirit.

I'm only relying on my knowledge of scripture and what it says, particularly the words of Christ Himself. I might remember some specifics incorrectly or misunderstand some of it. I try not to worry too much about it because those details are not as important. What's most important is honoring and trusting God and living by His standards.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

The Kingdom of Heaven is in heaven. That's where the presence of God the Father and God is located. But God is Spirit.

I'm only relying on my knowledge of scripture and what it says, particularly the words of Christ Himself. I might remember some specifics incorrectly or misunderstand some of it. I try not to worry too much about it because those details are not as important. What's most important is honoring and trusting God and living by His standards.


That's not true. The Kindom of heaven is at hand should have been rendered in your midst because Christ the King was in our midst. When He returns, He brings His heavenly Kingdom with Him
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True. But since His physical presence is currently in heaven so is His kingdom. Maybe it's also in the heart of every believer too.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

True. But since His physical presence is currently in heaven so is His kingdom. Maybe it's also in the heart of every believer too.


Until He raptures tge Church, it should be. Until He returns physically to the earth, it should be for those who believe during the Tribulation period.
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