Why Are We in Ukraine?

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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

boognish_bear said:


worst dictator ever


Why not just hold a freaking election instead?

If he wins it he can stay in office and advocate for membership
He did and he already won...


So he never has to run again?

Sounds like dictator behavior to me eh comrade?
a dictator could have an election whenever they wanted to. I'm not sure you know how these things work


Did your boy Lenin ever hold an election after the Bolsheviks took power?

Did that socialist Hitler after he won?

So in fact dictators often don't hold elections and they use the pretext of "martial law" or "national emergency" to rule without going to the people and risking getting voted out of office
ron.reagan
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"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

This entire narrative that this bloodfest in Ukraine was somehow worth it in order to 'weaken' the Russian military is ludicrous.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been slaughtered.

Only folks thousands of miles from the carnage can even attempt to be smug about it.

And for what …..to argue about tanks ?

Russia will easily rebuild their tank numbers.

The United States might even get back some of the hundreds of billions Biden cynically gave away.

But those lives are irrevocably lost.


^ dude over here thinks we won our freedom by thoughts and prayers


Dude over here owns a Combat Infantry Badge.

But of course you Rear Echelon Pukes remain the real 'warriors'.
Thanks for your service Kai!


Dumbest series of choices I have ever made in my life.

Relieved none of my sons did the same.

As no one gives a flying **** about the sacrifices made.

Least of all the elites ( of every country ) who cause the bloodshed to begin with.





You and Antifa would get along great


Your views on organized religion and LGBTQ would fit in great with antifa
They wouldn't at all actually.


You both hate Trump fanatically and have left wing social views

Makes sense that you have never criticized them on this forum

Do you drive to Austin to meet up?
KaiBear
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boognish_bear said:


Too little, too late.

Has been obvious for months the little dictator would be forced to step aside as part of any peace deal.
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
sombear
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
Dictator!!!

This is why the Ukrainian parliament's opposition leaders signed a joint statement that both parliamentary and presidential elections should take place after the cessation of the war and the conclusion of martial law. The document indicates a consensus among major political parties regarding the need for an appropriate period of time to prepare for elections and favorable conditions for campaigning and voting.

What Do Voters Think?

For the general population, holding elections under current conditions would be problematic. For example, in a November survey conducted by Kyiv's International Institute of Sociology, over 80 percent of respondents expressed a preference for deferring elections until the war had ended.
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sombear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
Dictator!!!

This is why the Ukrainian parliament's opposition leaders signed a joint statement that both parliamentary and presidential elections should take place after the cessation of the war and the conclusion of martial law.


So Zelensky and the Rada members currently in power want to remain in power and not face the voters in an election….shocker
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Redbrickbear said:

sombear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
Dictator!!!

This is why the Ukrainian parliament's opposition leaders signed a joint statement that both parliamentary and presidential elections should take place after the cessation of the war and the conclusion of martial law.


So Zelensky and the Rada members currently in power want to remain in power and not face the voters in an election….shocker
You're right . . . disregard (1) the elected officials - whom the Constitution expressly authorizes to decide, (2) the candidates who will run against Zelensky (all of whom have make public statements saying elections should wait), and (3) 80-85% of the Ukrainian public . . . and instead, listen to . . . Putin and the American alt-right!
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

This entire narrative that this bloodfest in Ukraine was somehow worth it in order to 'weaken' the Russian military is ludicrous.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been slaughtered.

Only folks thousands of miles from the carnage can even attempt to be smug about it.

And for what …..to argue about tanks ?

Russia will easily rebuild their tank numbers.

The United States might even get back some of the hundreds of billions Biden cynically gave away.

But those lives are irrevocably lost.


^ dude over here thinks we won our freedom by thoughts and prayers


Dude over here owns a Combat Infantry Badge.

But of course you Rear Echelon Pukes remain the real 'warriors'.
Thanks for your service Kai!


Dumbest series of choices I have ever made in my life.

Relieved none of my sons did the same.

As no one gives a flying **** about the sacrifices made.

Least of all the elites ( of every country ) who cause the bloodshed to begin with.





You and Antifa would get along great


Your views on organized religion and LGBTQ would fit in great with antifa
They wouldn't at all actually.


You both hate Trump fanatically and have left wing social views

Makes sense that you have never criticized them on this forum

Do you drive to Austin to meet up?
I can see not wanting to execute gay people seems left wing outside your social circle
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
The idea of suspending martial law while under a full scale invasion (even if he had the authority) is certainly an idea. They probably should just do mail-in voting sending the ballots to the east. Another extremely well thought out idea by you
KaiBear
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

This entire narrative that this bloodfest in Ukraine was somehow worth it in order to 'weaken' the Russian military is ludicrous.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been slaughtered.

Only folks thousands of miles from the carnage can even attempt to be smug about it.

And for what …..to argue about tanks ?

Russia will easily rebuild their tank numbers.

The United States might even get back some of the hundreds of billions Biden cynically gave away.

But those lives are irrevocably lost.


^ dude over here thinks we won our freedom by thoughts and prayers


Dude over here owns a Combat Infantry Badge.

But of course you Rear Echelon Pukes remain the real 'warriors'.
^ Guy in rolex and bone spurs makes fun of ex-military.


Guy with rolex(s) and three grandsons mocks Rear Echelon Pukes who play internet Rambo.
Considering your personality you might want to get a DNA test


Considering your five day a week drinking habit you might want to get your fatty liver checked.
I understand at your advanced age that is an issue but for a young healthy adult your body is capable of processing alcohols and doesn't require soft foods. I think you should get a few more months of fun in before the grandchildren check you into Sunset Manor


LOL

Oh yeah drinking 5 days a week keeps a body 'slim' and a mind sharp.

That's why you are the multi millionaire with a stable family life.
In my industry you are a millionaire with your first set of bonus stocks right out of college.I realize it took you 80 years to build up your average net worth managing a trailer park though

LOL

Comrade, in your 'industry' you clean up the espresso machine before splitting up the tips with the other day shift mediocrities.

Then return alone, still again, to your little apartment; blaming everyone else for your toxic existence.
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
The idea of suspending martial law while under a full scale invasion (even if he had the authority) is certainly an idea. They probably should just do mail-in voting sending the ballots to the east. Another extremely well thought out idea by you


The battle lines have been static for a long time.

They could easily hold elections in the central and western parts of the country (where Ukrainian nationalists are the strongest)

Just admit you don't want them to hold elections comrade



Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

This entire narrative that this bloodfest in Ukraine was somehow worth it in order to 'weaken' the Russian military is ludicrous.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been slaughtered.

Only folks thousands of miles from the carnage can even attempt to be smug about it.

And for what …..to argue about tanks ?

Russia will easily rebuild their tank numbers.

The United States might even get back some of the hundreds of billions Biden cynically gave away.

But those lives are irrevocably lost.


^ dude over here thinks we won our freedom by thoughts and prayers


Dude over here owns a Combat Infantry Badge.

But of course you Rear Echelon Pukes remain the real 'warriors'.
Thanks for your service Kai!


Dumbest series of choices I have ever made in my life.

Relieved none of my sons did the same.

As no one gives a flying **** about the sacrifices made.

Least of all the elites ( of every country ) who cause the bloodshed to begin with.





You and Antifa would get along great


Your views on organized religion and LGBTQ would fit in great with antifa
They wouldn't at all actually.


You both hate Trump fanatically and have left wing social views

Makes sense that you have never criticized them on this forum

Do you drive to Austin to meet up?
I can see not wanting to execute gay people seems left wing outside your social circle


You are such a drama queen…lol

No wonder you are Antifa
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