As I predicted it is just as likely Trump will get butt hurt and drag us into a direct conflict with Moscow instead of letting them grind down their population against Ukraine.
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Admittedly I've hardly been Nostradamus on any of this . . . and have been flat wrong trying to read Trump's mind on Russia/Ukraine.ron.reagan said:
As I predicted it is just as likely Trump will get butt hurt and drag us into a direct conflict with Moscow instead of letting them grind down their population against Ukraine.
But here's my latest. I think Trump now knows he will not get a deal. More and more chatter of Putin agreeing to nothing. Problem is, Trump's promise to do so was a primary campaign promise.
I think he's angling to say, "Hey, I did everything I possibly could, far more than Biden even tried to do. But the fact is, neither Russia nor Ukraine wants a deal. So we're just getting out. No more money to Ukraine."
Sam Lowry said:They and what army?Redbrickbear said:Assassin said:
There are times, when you really gotta like this Putin fella...JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇫🇷 Russian President Putin issues warning to French President Macron following his threatening speech.
— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) March 6, 2025
"There are still people who want to go back to the times of Napoleon, forgetting how it ended." pic.twitter.com/a9ZwB1BBlc
Funny line
But a Franco-German-Polish alliance today would run through Russia like crap thought a goose
And this time they would have plenty of deep winter gear
The really big and strong one they could build....if they cared to do so
(France: 65 million, Germany: 80 million, and Poland 38 million)
That is a bit different than saying he will end the war on day 1sombear said:Admittedly I've hardly been Nostradamus on any of this . . . and have been flat wrong trying to read Trump's mind on Russia/Ukraine.ron.reagan said:
As I predicted it is just as likely Trump will get butt hurt and drag us into a direct conflict with Moscow instead of letting them grind down their population against Ukraine.
But here's my latest. I think Trump now knows he will not get a deal. More and more chatter of Putin agreeing to nothing. Problem is, Trump's promise to do so was a primary campaign promise.
I think he's angling to say, "Hey, I did everything I possibly could, far more than Biden even tried to do. But the fact is, neither Russia nor Ukraine wants a deal. So we're just getting out. No more money to Ukraine."
Wait, you haven't seen his latest BS? 'We said 24 hours, but we didn't say when."ron.reagan said:That is a bit different than saying he will end the war on day 1sombear said:Admittedly I've hardly been Nostradamus on any of this . . . and have been flat wrong trying to read Trump's mind on Russia/Ukraine.ron.reagan said:
As I predicted it is just as likely Trump will get butt hurt and drag us into a direct conflict with Moscow instead of letting them grind down their population against Ukraine.
But here's my latest. I think Trump now knows he will not get a deal. More and more chatter of Putin agreeing to nothing. Problem is, Trump's promise to do so was a primary campaign promise.
I think he's angling to say, "Hey, I did everything I possibly could, far more than Biden even tried to do. But the fact is, neither Russia nor Ukraine wants a deal. So we're just getting out. No more money to Ukraine."
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
Another way to look at it, Ukraine is about 9,400 miles away from us. Russia is our neighbor, 2.4 miles across the Bering Strait. Work out relations with Russia by any means possible, even if it means getting their attention first.
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Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
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Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Why would Russia come to the table? We're tapping out and Europe doesn't have the fortitude or capacity. They've been intending to conquer the whole of Ukraine from the outset, and the door has been swung wide open.
Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
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Whiterock of all people should know a former KGB agent knows how to exploit someone with a need for ego and validation in the midst of discontent with high tendencies toward emotional instability.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Wow…Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Som, you are a lost cause because your so called sources are the Misinformation Stream Media, aka MSM's . No matter what true information is shown to you here, because you listen to those channels, you will refute them with the lies they spread. You wonder why 95% of the folks here are calling you out. That is why.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Watch Fox to get you some unbiased news. They actually have both Democrats and Republicans on their shows. And those Dems are currently apologizing for their party's stances. And rightly so.
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What sources have I cited, and what have I said that's not true today?Assassin said:Som, you are a lost cause because your so called sources are the Misinformation Stream Media, aka MSM's . No matter what true information is shown to you here, because you listen to those channels, you will refute them with the lies they spread. You wonder why 95% of the folks here are calling you out. That is why.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Watch Fox to get you some unbiased news. They actually have both Democrats and Republicans on their shows. And those Dems are currently apologizing for their party's stances. And rightly so.
I've mostly used Trump's own quotes about Russia and Ukraine.
Since you won't answer questions or even engage in specifics, I'll try some yes/no.
Did Trump stop all support and intel, including making a private satellite company cut-off Ukraine?
Did Trump specifically state that he did these things to send a message to Ukraine?
Has Putin bombed major civilian targets and energy infrastructure since we stopped finding and intel?
Did Trump say today that he's mad at Russia for escalating and then threaten to hit Russia with severe sanctions?
Did Trump later today seemingly reverse course and say he expected Russia to do what it is doing (escalate, including civilian targets) then also say he still think Russia wants a deal?
[Hint: The answer to all of these is yes.]
BTW people call me out because I'm one of the few who is willing to criticize (but also compliment) Trump.
Actually, what you are saying is that you are not seeing between the lines. I can just about guarantee you that this is going nearly exactly the way Trump wanted it to once Zelensky renigged AGAIN on signing the mineral rights deal that DID NOT include US security. Trump would never sign something like that. They had the deal worked out and then Zelensky re-opened negotiations. Zelensky did this to his own peoplesombear said:What sources have I cited, and what have I said that's not true today?Assassin said:Som, you are a lost cause because your so called sources are the Misinformation Stream Media, aka MSM's . No matter what true information is shown to you here, because you listen to those channels, you will refute them with the lies they spread. You wonder why 95% of the folks here are calling you out. That is why.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Watch Fox to get you some unbiased news. They actually have both Democrats and Republicans on their shows. And those Dems are currently apologizing for their party's stances. And rightly so.
I've mostly used Trump's own quotes about Russia and Ukraine.
Since you won't answer questions or even engage in specifics, I'll try some yes/no.
Did Trump stop all support and intel, including making a private satellite company cut-off Ukraine?
Did Trump specifically state that he did these things to send a message to Ukraine?
Has Putin bombed major civilian targets and energy infrastructure since we stopped finding and intel?
Did Trump say today that he's mad at Russia for escalating and then threaten to hit Russia with severe sanctions?
Did Trump later today seemingly reverse course and say he expected Russia to do what it is doing (escalate, including civilian targets) then also say he still think Russia wants a deal?
[Hint: The answer to all of these is yes.]
BTW people call me out because I'm one of the few who is willing to criticize (but also compliment) Trump.
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Like I said, he's throwing elbows wherever they need to be thrown to get the parties to agree to his demands.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
yeah, Democrats are a weakness for us, for sure. Trump is the rock of friggin' Gibraltar by comparison.ATL Bear said:Whiterock of all people should know a former KGB agent knows how to exploit someone with a need for ego and validation in the midst of discontent with high tendencies toward emotional instability.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
don't really need to go much further than last week, when he showed up to sign a deal and then started re-negotiating in a presser in front of the American press. He could have had America joined at the hip in business, but he wanted to win an argument about what untrustworthy *******s Russians could be rather than do the smart thing.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
Don't know, sounds about right, and just a guess but I'm betting Putin won't let anyone but Trump "win" for making peace. Putin absolutely must say no to everyone in Europe. Trump's posturing towards Russia to date has been one of being willing to cooperate.
We'll see.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.
Russia didn't encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk today. They've been doing it gradually for the last six months.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
How much aid is Trump giving to Russia? Looks even-handed to me.
The loss of Kursk is and always has been inevitable.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Putin has announced his demands for a ceasefire. As predicted, they include withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the contested oblasts in their entirety and a guarantee not to join NATO. If the Ukrainians agree, they can avoid losing the rest of their territory (which they could also have done in 2022 without sacrificing hundreds of thousands of troops).
ATL Bear said:Whiterock of all people should know a former KGB agent knows how to exploit someone with a need for ego and validation in the midst of discontent with high tendencies toward emotional instability.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Just because someone was in the KGB or CIA does not mean they are some kind of genius (Putin is entirely average in intelligence…and it speaks more to Russia's political disfunction than his intelligence that he is in charge)
And Trump has proven to be remarkably adept a political games and interpersonal skills
Trump has taken on the entire establishment of both political parties, corporate America, the entire Media & Academic systems and come out politically on top when no one else thought he could do it
Your whole "Putin is playing Trump by stroking his ego" is such an old and lame take it belongs to a reddit post from 2016
You need new material
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The Telegraph reports that Trump is considering to pull out 35 000 U.S. soldiers based in Germany and send some of them to Central Eastern Europe instead. pic.twitter.com/5wH17i3kwx
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What exactly is the elbow he landed on Putin's jaw? His statement yesterday that he seemed to retract later?whiterock said:Like I said, he's throwing elbows wherever they need to be thrown to get the parties to agree to his demands.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
If it was going exactly the way Trump wanted, why did he say yesterday he was pissed at Putin and threaten severe sanctions? And you are saying he wanted Putin to escalate in civilian targets and civilian energy infrastructure?Assassin said:Actually, what you are saying is that you are not seeing between the lines. I can just about guarantee you that this is going nearly exactly the way Trump wanted it to once Zelensky renigged AGAIN on signing the mineral rights deal that DID NOT include US security. Trump would never sign something like that. They had the deal worked out and then Zelensky re-opened negotiations. Zelensky did this to his own peoplesombear said:What sources have I cited, and what have I said that's not true today?Assassin said:Som, you are a lost cause because your so called sources are the Misinformation Stream Media, aka MSM's . No matter what true information is shown to you here, because you listen to those channels, you will refute them with the lies they spread. You wonder why 95% of the folks here are calling you out. That is why.sombear said:I'm blaming Trump for pulling support and intel, which directly caused civilian and solider deaths and potential loss of Kursk. Trump even forced a private American satellite company to cut off access. It's actually sick.Assassin said:Caused all that to happen? Get all those Ukrainians and Russian young men killed?sombear said:Did all what?Assassin said:Why do you think Zelensky did all that?sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Dude, stop trying to blame Trump for Zelensky's screwups
What exactly are Zelensky's screwups? Please list them.
Watch Fox to get you some unbiased news. They actually have both Democrats and Republicans on their shows. And those Dems are currently apologizing for their party's stances. And rightly so.
I've mostly used Trump's own quotes about Russia and Ukraine.
Since you won't answer questions or even engage in specifics, I'll try some yes/no.
Did Trump stop all support and intel, including making a private satellite company cut-off Ukraine?
Did Trump specifically state that he did these things to send a message to Ukraine?
Has Putin bombed major civilian targets and energy infrastructure since we stopped finding and intel?
Did Trump say today that he's mad at Russia for escalating and then threaten to hit Russia with severe sanctions?
Did Trump later today seemingly reverse course and say he expected Russia to do what it is doing (escalate, including civilian targets) then also say he still think Russia wants a deal?
[Hint: The answer to all of these is yes.]
BTW people call me out because I'm one of the few who is willing to criticize (but also compliment) Trump.
As Rubio admitted, the parties never had agreed to all the key terms of the mineral deal. Only the mineral portion itself. Trump and Zelensky gambled that they could close the gap in person. They didn't. As I've said from the second it happened, Zelensky made a huge mistake that day, but he never reneged.
so he's been so willing to cooperate that he's been called a Russian asset. Now, we see him starting to spank the Russians. will his critics spin on a dime and call him a war-monger? Or will calmer heads see that he uses the carrot & stick rather dispassionately as needed to achieve a clear objective?TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
Don't know, sounds about right, and just a guess but I'm betting Putin won't let anyone but Trump "win" for making peace. Putin absolutely must say no to everyone in Europe. Trump's posturing towards Russia to date has been one of being willing to cooperate.
We'll see.
Standing with Ukraine? pic.twitter.com/KKKFOiHUud
— Playteaux (@Playteaux1) March 7, 2025
he made significant threats. then he made an observation of fact which really didn't undercut the threats at all.sombear said:What exactly is the elbow he landed on Putin's jaw? His statement yesterday that he seemed to retract later?whiterock said:Like I said, he's throwing elbows wherever they need to be thrown to get the parties to agree to his demands.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
So total withdraw of $, weapons, ammo, and intel, including forcing a private satellite company to cut off access, on the one hand, vs. a 30 second sanction threat followed by statement that Russia still wants peace and did what we expected, on the other hand. Got it. Putin must be near heart attack level right now . . . .whiterock said:he made significant threats. then he made an observation of fact which really didn't undercut the threats at all.sombear said:What exactly is the elbow he landed on Putin's jaw? His statement yesterday that he seemed to retract later?whiterock said:Like I said, he's throwing elbows wherever they need to be thrown to get the parties to agree to his demands.sombear said:Even handed? He stopped all support and intel, and it costs numerous civilian and soldier deaths and led to a disaster in Kursk.whiterock said:he's manhandled Ukraine into coming to sign the trade deal. Now he's going to beat up on Russia just as bad as he's beat up on Ukraine, to get them to the table.sombear said:
Someone… anyone … please try to explain what Trump is doing.🚨 HOLY SHT… Trump just threatened Russia with “large scale” sanctions and tariffs until a ceasefire and peace deal is reached with Ukraine.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) March 7, 2025
“To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” pic.twitter.com/W1DyteFrOT
He's being even handed.
Makes perfect sense.
And on the same day (today) he first threatened Russia, he later said Russia did what anyone would do and expected them to do it. In other words, he knowingly allowed Russia to bomb civilian targets and encircle Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
Doc Holliday said:Standing with Ukraine? pic.twitter.com/KKKFOiHUud
— Playteaux (@Playteaux1) March 7, 2025
lolololololol
Assassin said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 7, 2025
The Telegraph reports that Trump is considering to pull out 35 000 U.S. soldiers based in Germany and send some of them to Central Eastern Europe instead. pic.twitter.com/5wH17i3kwx
Moving them to Poland would be cheaper or Latvia (better for their local economies as well)
Germany is an expensive place to station troops